this is pretty incredible. tOSU was so close to losing and still pulled it out (notwithstanding the missed offensive PI non-call)
for anyone that missed the last tOSU drive against ND
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For PSU's sake, thankfully OSU scored that td. PSU can control its own fate against OSU, whereas it can't against ND. Also, if ND had won that game, they would've had a good chance of running the table, since they play a de facto ACC schedule and almost never lose an ACC game. I also was rooting for OSU because I've come to despise teams that bring in free agent qbs for one season for a quick fix. I mean, ND's qb probably should've been in an NFL camp this past summer and not at another school after having a complete career at Wake.
I really believe that the OSU-PSU game is going to be very similar to the ND-OSU game, as both teams have really good defenses and evolving offenses. If Allar can continue to progress, I believe that PSU has a decent chance of winning that game.
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Agree - likewise. Plus, I'm from the Chicago area (went to Northwestern) and I get sick of all of the ND BS in that area. Can't stand those "holier than thou" a-holes. Obviously, I was pulling hard for OSU
I didn't see any offensive pass interference, and the intentional grounding was debatable (receiver was nearby).
Boo hoo for ND!
The WR grabs the defender by his shoulder pads and drags him down so that he can't INT it. on the intentional grounding, you must be seeing a different play. There was nobody within 15 yards of that pass. This is a discretionary call by the ref and I'd call that grounding on 100 our of 100 plays.
If he were out of the tackle box, the pass was fine.
Inside the tackle box, it's blatantly grounding to avoid a sack.
I had to towel myself off after listening to that.
You're seeing this from someone that clearly wanted Ohio State to lose. There's nothing remotely obvious about the non-call or the call. Those can easily go either way and do countless times every weekend.
One of the many reasons CFB is better than NFL. Every game matters. Even in week 4.
They can easily win all 3 but they need to have 2 losses. 11-1 with a win over Ohio State would have been a huge problem.
But they don't HAVE to lose one now. This was actually a win for Penn State that they lost to Ohio state..
Anyone else thought about that 94 Colorado game against Michigan like I did?
His little rant was annoying as hell as their whole program is. I think he is trying to play the "everybody is against us and we overcame incredible adversity" card. That is just a joke. Dude you have NFL talent all over the place and shouldn't have needed a miracle drive to eek it out. Just shut up and you will never get any credit nor should you until you beat scUM, Bama or UGA in a big game.
I understand the logic of why it is best for PSU that OSU won the game. Now we can control our destiny and not worry about ND going undefeated and taking a playoff spot (although they still may get in).
My lingering concern once I get over the emotional aggravation of seeing OSU weasel out a game is simply the spark/juice this game gave OSU. Specifically it could really boost McCord's confidence now that he has won a big game in the clutch. This may be just what they need to eek out another big win, this time against us. My nightmare is that our game vs them goes like the ND game and they again pull it out of their a## in the final seconds. Of course, I hope I'm dead wrong in my thinking.
Agree, we cannot have ND going undefeated especially if we end up in a 1 loss tiebreak situation.
I did not hear it, but it was good for him. The media wants to give those blow hards the NC if they can beat Navy. He went into their house and beat them. ND is one of a few teams I that I enjoy most when they lose. I like and respect Lou, but as a 79 year old I say disrespecting a disrespectful mature person is fine with me. Lou, do the right thing. Eat crow.
Day is feeling the heat and will be gone after this year because he ain’t beating Michigan in AA. Won’t be surprised if they miss the playoffs. Offense is very pedestrian this year.
Doesn't look like an Ohio State offensive line. They will be better by the time PSU plays them. Ohio State QB was just spraying the ball around in desperation -- incredibly lucky he wasn't picked off.
Ohio State receivers are great though. They are what you worry about from that team.
Ohio State receivers are great though. They are what you worry about from that team.
I have a feeling that the OSU game could play out similarly as the 2008 OSU-PSU game did. By saying that, I'm not predicting that PSU will win, but only that it should come down to the very end to determine a winner.
Agree. I am not sure how good tOSU is. They always have talent and barely, perhaps luckily, beat ND. Other than that game, neither team has played a good football team. ND is often overrated and comes in with a QB that xfered from Wake Forest and is still feeling his way with ND as a sixth-year senior.
On the positive side, both teams played clean ball with few penalties and no turnovers. ND played very conservatively down the stretch and the ND faithful feel that they made a mistake nursing a small lead. tOSU could only muster 126 yards rushing. tOSU's QB had a spotty day. he ended up with 21 for 37 for 240 yards with 0 TDs or INTs. He made a couple of really good throws. Then he made some bad plays.
I am not predicting anything but this looks to be one of the weaker tOSU teams we've seen in several years
I am an OSU fan but I truly believe that this is your year . For Franklin: If not now when??
As for the intentional grounding ,when Mc Cord released the ball Harrison( I believe that it was him) was in the area but was already in the process of breaking his route so by the time the ball got there he was already running towards the center of the end zone . it reminded me of a play, I believe that it was sometime last season, where one of your receivers broke his route and PSU was called for IG.
As for the intentional grounding ,when Mc Cord released the ball Harrison( I believe that it was him) was in the area but was already in the process of breaking his route so by the time the ball got there he was already running towards the center of the end zone . it reminded me of a play, I believe that it was sometime last season, where one of your receivers broke his route and PSU was called for IG.
there was a big difference. the OSU QB was in the grasp and going down, side arms it toward OOB. There was no way he saw the WR and had any hope of getting it there with accuracy. The PSU game the QB was in the pocket, untouched and not hurried, when he threw to a spot. The WR and QB misread the D and the QB was expecting a different route.
PSU actually could and probably should be even better next season than this season. You might be able to say the same about OSU too.
He doesn't have to see the receiver, he just has to get it there when there is an eligible receiver there. In this case he wasn't as he had broken the route so I do get the call. That said I have seen many similar plays where the QB was given the benefit of the doubt when one of the officials noted that the receiver was in the area when the ball was released even if the QB was about to be sacked.
It is under the discretion of the ref. No way he was trying to complete a pass, none.
Even if MHJ broke outside, the pass was obviously a heave OOB to avoid a sack. The whole play centers on being inside the tackle box. Could the refs have given the benefit of the doubt? Absolutely. But I don't, personally, see how anyone watching that play could make any argument that McCord was trying to complete a pass.
Definitely IG - closest receiver was way deeper than where he threw the ball to the sideline.... and the closest receiver was running toward the middle of the field (i.e., away from where the ball was thrown). There was no intended target in the area of sideline ball was thrown toward... and the closest receiver wasn't very close (as you said) and clearly not an intended target given the direction he was running (i.e., not close and running away from ball, not towards it).
Dang, starting to like you Penn State fans now, I can not stand ND and their fans arrogance is just horrible.
I really think Penn St, Ohio State and Michigan are all on about the same level this year, so who knows, we could go 1-1 vs each other. Ohio State has a big O Line problem, that is hurting our run game and McCords development in my opinion. Our defense seems much improved, especially on the back end. I expect the Penn St vs Ohio State game to be a 23-17 type of game. Good luck guys
Oh and I am worried about Maryland next week for us, to many already looking past them..
I really think Penn St, Ohio State and Michigan are all on about the same level this year, so who knows, we could go 1-1 vs each other. Ohio State has a big O Line problem, that is hurting our run game and McCords development in my opinion. Our defense seems much improved, especially on the back end. I expect the Penn St vs Ohio State game to be a 23-17 type of game. Good luck guys
Oh and I am worried about Maryland next week for us, to many already looking past them..
You share the feelings of many fans of PSU-OSU-UM. That could be a very dangerous team and would not be surprised to see them upset one of the big three
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Its a very close between the big 3, I wouldn't be surprised if we each beat each other and have to look to the crazy 'non-divisioinal' big ten opponents tiebraker. It would be conference record of each of our 3 non-divisional opponents
Michigan- Neb, Minn, Purdue
Ohio State- Wisc, Minn, Purdue
Penn State- Iowa, Ill, Northwestern
Interestingly, between Michigan and Ohio St. it is Neb vs. Wisc (I like our chances there), for you all, PSU has a whole different set- You should be rooting hard for Iowa and maybe Ill to strengthen your data
Michigan- Neb, Minn, Purdue
Ohio State- Wisc, Minn, Purdue
Penn State- Iowa, Ill, Northwestern
Interestingly, between Michigan and Ohio St. it is Neb vs. Wisc (I like our chances there), for you all, PSU has a whole different set- You should be rooting hard for Iowa and maybe Ill to strengthen your data
