for anyone that missed the last tOSU drive against ND
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LMAOROFL. Watch your mouth. I am 79.
What some people call weaseling out a win others call knowing how to win even in a hostile stadium when you are not going on all cylinders.
Agreed. It was a W against a quality team. Both defenses played well plus there were zero turnovers. the QB made a couple of great plays while the DB from ND will remember that dropped INT for the rest of his life.
Basically....from the parts of it I caught it seemed to be a great game. We'll soon find out if they were 2 elites teams or just 12-15 type teams but I'll take that kind of game over 45-42 every day.
Yep. Still too early to tell where either will fall. ND looked more consistent in their prior games while OSU had to improve weekly and still didn't look like the typical Buckeyes. In the end, the Buckeyes showed that you better sustain pressure for 4 downs because somebody will eventually get open. Fleming, MHJ, Egbuka all had big catches on that final drive.
wow....Lou Holtz doubled down on ND tOSU
Lou Holtz doubles down on Ohio State, Ryan Day comments: ‘I felt Notre Dame won the football game’
Former Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz apologized to Marcus Freeman for helping Ohio State get fired up, but stood by his comments about Ryan Day and the Buckeyes.
He pretty much had to - he said all of those things. The only problem is that from here on out, OSU is going to be sensitive to Holtz' "soft" comments and maybe concentrate on tougher play - I guess.wow....Lou Holtz doubled down on ND tOSU
Lou Holtz doubles down on Ohio State, Ryan Day comments: ‘I felt Notre Dame won the football game’
Former Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz apologized to Marcus Freeman for helping Ohio State get fired up, but stood by his comments about Ryan Day and the Buckeyes.www.cleveland.com
wow....Lou Holtz doubled down on ND tOSU
Lou Holtz doubles down on Ohio State, Ryan Day comments: ‘I felt Notre Dame won the football game’
Former Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz apologized to Marcus Freeman for helping Ohio State get fired up, but stood by his comments about Ryan Day and the Buckeyes.
I love Lou as a character, and he was an excellent football coach, but at this point I wish he'd shut his mouth on the topic of Ohio State because he keeps giving the Bucks bulletin-board material that they'll put to good use the rest of the way this season. I mean, his quotes from the link above are ridiculous.
As for the game, I didn't see it until the last couple plays but had money on the Irish +3 points so I wasn't too thrilled to say the least at the way it ended. Oh well, breaking even is better than losing.
But the bet aside, after our experience of decades in this league, there's no way I can ever root for Ohio State. It's like eating liver: it may be nutritionally good for you, but it tastes like shit nonetheless.
Much ado about nothing, me thinks. Holtz is simply just another commentator. Do teams get upset when any talking head makes a predication? Did CJF go ballistic on Davey Jones? Lou Holtz is 86 years old.
I think Day is trying to use this to motivate the team. I mean, tOSU won the game but it isn't like it was decisive.
Agree with this and, yes, I understand that Holtz is old but he's still one of the faces of ND football as he is a NC coach and even has his statue outside ND stadium. I think sometimes reporters love to interview people like him just to stir the pot. But, yeah, agree that this was the perfect tool for Day to motivate his team.
I also read on Eleven Warriors that the bad blood between the two schools goes back to last year when OSU alum Marcus Freeman took some shots at OSU and said it was a mistake going to OSU - instead of ND - out of high school. Not cool !
And yes, I was pulling hard for OSU as I'm from the Chicago area (went to Northwestern) and I'm sick and tired of the over-the-top love that those a-holes from South Bend get in the Chicago area. They're the #1 CF team in Chicago and it's putrid. It's like they can do no wrong. Obviously, I loved the outcome especially with the ND defense letting OSU drive 65 yards in 1:26 with that young QB (who was impressive) - a painful outcome for ND followers - I loved it.
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Dead on. I agree 100%. Day will be throwing that "Holtz' OSU-soft BS" at them the rest of the year. Holtz didn't do the rest of the B1G any favors with his comments
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so how is that different from Cowherd, Herbie, Fowler, or whatever? these guys are paid to prognosticate.
I believe that Holtz is an ex-OSU coach and was an assistant under Woody Hayes on one of their NC teams. He's also an Ohio native that was well thought of before his ND stuff. Holtz is not a paid reporter but his face is now linked to ND football. I've also read that Holtz was POd about not being named the OSU coach after Woody Hayes was forced out and he still holds the resentment to this day. Many OSU followers - at that time - thought he had a real shot over the eventual selection - Earl Bruce. There was an article on this a few days ago on Eleven Warriors.
I think a lot of times reporters like to interview him because they know he's going to say something controversial - stupid. It was actually comical listening to his interviews
His legacy is tied to ND. He won a national championship there. There is no way he is going to say anything bad about ND. I mean, it is like Dorsett trashing Pitt or RG2 trashing Baylor. I think this is Day, who is fighting for his coaching career this year, finding something to rally around.
Hurts huh? "Tough" teams (ask Lou) - like ND - don't let the other team drive 65 yards in the final 1:26 and let them convert 3rd and 10, 4th and 7, and 3rd and 19......repeat 3rd and 19 ....... in the process of that drive. Have fun thinking about it oh "holier than thou" one.
I'd be surprised if the Terps have enough dudes at the LOS to be competitive with the top of the B1G east. It's a pity Maryland doesn't play in the West -- they would win a lot of games and compete for the division.
Of course not - I agree. No strong follower will degrade their program.
But the problem was that Holtz named Day in that interview and specifically mentioned that his teams lost to a handful of teams because of not being tough. And the teams that Day has lost to were all top 5-ish type teams unlike Urban who lost in back-to-back years to heavy underdogs Iowa and Purdue.
All he had to say is that he thought ND was more physical and leave it at that. He didn't need to start throwing out names and belittling them. Just not very professional.
Hint: not hard to figure out that I hate Notre Dame
I heartily disagree. Calf’s liver properly softened and fried with bacon, and mashed potatoes is delicious.
Eat $hit a-hole. BTW, how's Northwestern doing? Has Fitzgerald found a job yet? Hurts huh?
Probably agree as I have a hunch that Fitz is able to count to eleven without stopping at ten.
Obli, Lou's comments -- OSU is soft; OSU is not a great team; OSU lost the game -- are cartoonishly over the top. Hell, he couldn't be more helpful to Day if he were on the Bucks payroll.
I doubt Herbie or Fowler would say stuff like that about a team, but if they did, any coach would gratefully serve it up to his players as motivational material. Hell, If I were Day, I'd post Lou's statements on the Buckeye locker-room door.
Honestly, it's hard to believe that Lou, even at his age, doesn't understand the effect that such on-air insults have. He did no favors for his old team before the game and his doubling down afterward is a gift to the Bucks.
Media hype
Here are the quotes. For the most part, he said ND has a better OL and DL. And when tOSU loses, they lose because they are not physical enough.
I read the quotes...the ones before the game and after (in your post #48 above)...and I see them as gifts to Ohio State.
He questions the Bucks' toughness...says Ohio State is not a great team...and says they didn't really win the game against the Irish.
Like I said, if I'm Day, I'm posting that on the locker-room door...and sending Lou a private thank-you note.
Yep, I agree. The difference is that Day's rant is much adu about nothing. Holtz' legacy rests with ND and he isn't going to go against them. At the same time, he's trying to stay relevant in the college football world. He said ND would win because they have a tougher OL and DL and that is how they've lost big games in the past. Is that different than Herbie and Meyer saying the same about PSU?
I just want Lou to shut his mouth about Ohio State now...and not "help" us before our game like he "helped" his old team before theirs last Saturday.
I have this Freudian theory about Lou. He wasn't real happy when he retired from coaching following his Irish gig. After the Faust disaster, he had rebuilt Notre Dame into a national powerhouse and then had to watch as the limp-wristed Irish administration tightened admission standards for football players to the point where he could no longer compete with the elite teams of the sport.
So he read the handwriting on the wall and stepped down gracefully. But I'm guessing that his private emotions may not have been so graceful and could still be influencing his judgment.
About 15 years ago while in Orlando I stopped to get gas. One second later a car pulled up behind me to get gas also, and damned if it wasn’t Lou. Bye the way he’s about 5’ 5 or 6”’s and skinny as a stove pipe. I said hi and told him I really thought his TV show ( then he had a gig with Mark May) was funny.
He laughed and shot the breeze with me (he actually kept the conversation going) for a while as our tanks were filling. Not about football, but where he lived. He said his neighbors were older than dead and none of them can hit a golf ball further than 50 yards. Lou joked about the fact that ambulances taking his neighbors to the hospital was a daily occurrence. I have to say, he was friendly. Not like some other celebrities I’ve encountered in my travels.
He laughed and shot the breeze with me (he actually kept the conversation going) for a while as our tanks were filling. Not about football, but where he lived. He said his neighbors were older than dead and none of them can hit a golf ball further than 50 yards. Lou joked about the fact that ambulances taking his neighbors to the hospital was a daily occurrence. I have to say, he was friendly. Not like some other celebrities I’ve encountered in my travels.
I bought calves liver at Pubkix an hour ago.Haha! Yup, I just knew a liver-lover would pop up to take issue with my analogy...
My clan were Pennsylvania hunters. When they brought home a few deer, grandma would use a cast iron skillet. She would fry bacon and then use the grease to fry the fresh liver and onions. It's really good.
You guys are in the minority. Google: Most Hated Foods in the World.
In fact, linked below is a list published only a few days ago with liver coming in 12th most hated on the list.
Then again, there are some foods there that I like to include olives, baloney, mayonnaise, pickles, and tuna.
Moral of the story: there is no accounting for taste...and no right or wrong in it.
That said, for me, rooting for Ohio State is still like eating liver. No matter how strong the argument that it might be good for you, it still tastes like crap.
But opinions differ:
The 21 Most Hated Foods in the World
Taste buds can be diverse, but there are some foods we can all band together on hating. Let's take a look at 21 of the most hated foods.
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When my oldest daughter was about 9 years old she wouldn’t eat peas. One night at dinner I told her she was going to sit there till morning, but you’ll eat at least one pea. My wife said leave her alone. Two hours later I slipped her $20 and said “Just eat one and never tell your mom about the money”. She did and my wife asked how I did it, “good parenting skills” I replied. She never to my knowledge ever learned the truth. We never had pea’s again.
Well you could also say that about the '82 Cal win over Stanford. Cal just knew how to win. The bottom line is ND had that game and blew it. 10 men for the last 2 plays, dropped pick but if it makes you feel better to anoint OSU as the clutch team who knows how to win, have at it. We will see who knows how to win more on Oct 21st.
