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Former PSU Bball player Wheeler

Wheeler and Harrar played their 4 years here and graduated. The NCAA decided to give them an extra year. As far as I see it, they honored their “contract”.

As long as we’re living in a world where coaches will run guys off that don’t meet their hopes, how can someone fault guys that gave their 4 years and got their degrees?
I think you misinterpreted what I said. I don't like the NCAA allowing transfers in general because it's disruptive to student education. Furthermore if they get a 4 year scholarship guarantee that should require a 4 year commitment. JMO.

I clearly said that Wheeler had the right to transfer because that's the NCAA rule. It doesn't mean that I like the rule. However you do have a good point about the fact that they have graduated. In that case their education isn't being disrupted.
 
I think you misinterpreted what I said. I don't like the NCAA allowing transfers in general because it's disruptive to student education. Furthermore if they get a 4 year scholarship guarantee that should require a 4 year commitment. JMO.

I clearly said that Wheeler had the right to transfer because that's the NCAA rule. It doesn't mean that I like the rule. However you do have a good point about the fact that they have graduated. In that case their education isn't being disrupted.
The Big Ten is a little different, but most D1 schools do not offer a 4-year scholarship. Rather, it is a 1-year scholarship that is renewed every year (unless if the school no longer wants the student, then they transfer).
 
The Big Ten is a little different, but most D1 schools do not offer a 4-year scholarship. Rather, it is a 1-year scholarship that is renewed every year (unless if the school no longer wants the student, then they transfer).

A lot of them do. But for all intents and purposes those "guarantees," even the ones extended by Big Ten schools, are meaningless
 
At some point far earlier in this thread Tim B. from the PSU Hoops board would have posted the clip from Hoosiers where Gene Hackman tells the ref that "My Team is On the Floor". That's how I feel. Whoever suits up for PSU next fall is my team!
 
Good thing Mauti and the rest of the guys from 2012 weren’t cut from the same cloth as Wheeler and Harrar....we would still be digging out of that hole. Sometimes you do things for the good of something bigger than yourself. There’s a reason that year hangs up at Beaver Stadium and it’s not because those guys loved the university so much they left when leadership botched things up. See the difference?
Ding-ding-ding we have a winner! I said this same thing in another post. This situations aren't exactly the same but similar enough that I'd love to see Harrar be the Mauti/Zordich of the team instead of the Silas Redd!
 
Yeah right...leagues are always looking for non-scorers...CYO maybe?
You really come across as an abrasive asshole.

If he develops a floater or finishes better, with how quick his first step is.... Watch out

His elite defensive ability is very attractive as well. He has shown an improved scoring ability this year, too
 
You really come across as an abrasive asshole.

If he develops a floater or finishes better, with how quick his first step is.... Watch out

His elite defensive ability is very attractive as well. He has shown an improved scoring ability this year, too
He’s an above average defensive player and a below average offensive player who has improved his game. If he had gone to another P-5 program to start with, he likely would be playing for a lower level school right now since he would have transferred because he never would have gotten off the bench his first two years. So we got to put up with him during his really crappy years and OSU gets to enjoy him in his one best year....we should all be so happy for him.
 
You really come across as an abrasive asshole.

If he develops a floater or finishes better, with how quick his first step is.... Watch out

His elite defensive ability is very attractive as well. He has shown an improved scoring ability this year, too
Sorry that your feelings are hurt. Suggest you clean up your language.
 
I have former non d-1 players who played professionally, if he wants to go overseas he will find a spot.
His defense and unselfishness will be more appreciated overseas as well
Yep, the guy will carve out a nice life playing basketball for money overseas or in the G-League
 
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Feelings aren't hurt at all, just you're hating on a talented player who gives it his all for no reason at all.

And thanks, mom.
No worries Skippy.

Not hating on anyone. Just evaluating a Buckeye. Head on over there to cheer him on.
 
No worries Skippy.

Not hating on anyone. Just evaluating a Buckeye. Head on over there to cheer him on.
You take this "rivalry" thing a bit too seriously. He leveled up and greatly increased his chances of dancing next year. I hold zero hard feelings with it all.
 
Feelings aren't hurt at all, just you're hating on a talented player who gives it his all for no reason at all.

And thanks, mom.
Is the poster hating for no reason at all or does the player give his all for no reason at all? Not clearly written. I would hope Wheeler has a reason to give his all....and the poster is hating on a player who is a Buckeye....that’s a reason. So your statement is incorrect.
 
You take this "rivalry" thing a bit too seriously. He leveled up and greatly increased his chances of dancing next year. I hold zero hard feelings with it all.
So he’s bailing on his school, fans and his teammates so he can play a game or two in a tournament? Really? I can’t believe Mauti didn’t leave so he could play in a bowl game...what’s wrong with him?
 
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So he’s bailing on his school, fans and his teammates so he can play a game or two in a tournament? Really? I can’t believe Mauti didn’t leave so he could play in a bowl game...what’s wrong with him?
He was @ PSU 4 yes, proved his loyalty, and apparently graduated. This is the world the NCAA has created and he is seizing an opportunity to play on a team that projects to have a better season next year than PSU. I have no hard feelings. PSU will probably get some transfers from the portal. Not a fan of all of this, but programs now have to adapt. I believe Coach Shrewsberry will improve the program as he builds brings in his type of player. It would be great if Harrar returned. We shall see.
 
I wish Wheeler stayed but he was probably one of the most replaceable starters of the past four seasons. People are overreacting
 
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I wish Wheeler stayed but he was probably one of the most replaceable starters of the past four seasons. People are overreacting
I’d love to have him back because we’re thin at PG without adding someone...but I love that it gets Sessom more minutes, as he was very underutilized.
 
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He was @ PSU 4 yes, proved his loyalty, and apparently graduated. This is the world the NCAA has created and he is seizing an opportunity to play on a team that projects to have a better season next year than PSU. I have no hard feelings. PSU will probably get some transfers from the portal. Not a fan of all of this, but programs now have to adapt. I believe Coach Shrewsberry will improve the program as he builds brings in his type of player. It would be great if Harrar returned. We shall see.
Just because the NCAA allows it doesn’t mean players have to use it. I have no hard feelings either, but I’m not going to hope he does well. Him doing well does not benefit our program in any way, shape or form. I would rather see him end up on the bench for the entire year.
 
I’d love to have him back because we’re thin at PG without adding someone...but I love that it gets Sessom more minutes, as he was very underutilized.
Sessoms (and Abdou) will greatly benefit from a full OOC schedule this year
 
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You take this "rivalry" thing a bit too seriously. He leveled up and greatly increased his chances of dancing next year. I hold zero hard feelings with it all.
Good for him and good for you. Again, I am sure the O$U board will welcome you with open arms.

I would like to think we support Penn State players here. Hopefully Shrews will get a replacement who has an all-around game. Won’t take much to get better on offense.
 
Wow, his high school rating on 247 is 2nd only to Tony Carr's rating, higher than Lamar Stevens' rating.
Wants to play pg, which wasn't happening full time at vt. Dad came out and said he needs to play for someone who can get him to the nba. (Shrewsbury now helps get these kids more than other coaches with his celtics work) Listed 6 or 7 schools on twitter but main competitors are Indiana and Nebraska as well as ok st. Indiana is interesting with Woodson and having their 5 star young pg go portal. If Woodson convinces him to stay that eliminates them.
 
Thin but hearing Jalen cone from vtech is now a possibility. Very good shooter, would be good complement to sessoms.
He named us in his top 7. It looks like he would be a nice pickup. Shot over 40% from deep as a frosh, like 36ish% last season.

Side note, but what school is NAU???? (In his top 7).
 
On a positive note, he is graduating, but on Twitter made a comment that basically said he wanted to stay, but the decision wasnt his.
Interesting. I often wonder many of these kids get pushed out by the coach only to then get torn apart by "fans."
I loved his effort on the court, seems like he's responsible off the court, I will be rooting for him.
 
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