I think our coach makes a darn good point here:
Franklin on Locksley's snit after the garbage-time TD: that's his problem
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You want to say "Joe would never do that" but you can't. Rutgers 95
His best post game answer. It came from his heart and was the truth. Reality is going to be hard for those programs that are on the fringe (20-40).
Fun little fact, McQueary used to gamble on games and he called that play to cover. Don't wanna get into the dark days but there has been talk he said certain things to get money to pay off bookies. Just talk on the street tho.
I still don’t like it. If he’s correct in that the system dictates to run up the score, well that’s a shame. It will happen to us eventually and nobody will be able to complain. Sportsmanship is just becoming a relic of the past
Big Red bomb to Chris Campbell....apparently he changed the playcall.
Doug Graber was right to be pissed.
Big Red shows character flaws that would have much greater impact down the line...
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MSU lineman TD was just "fun" unless you were us...
Don’t see the need to throw the ball at the end of the game
On the other hand, Locksley should be focused on more important things like getting his team to play better.
On the other hand, Locksley should be focused on more important things like getting his team to play better.
I agree with James that the backups deserve to get to play real football and get real reps. Where I disagree is him rushing to get additional plays in when the result is already settled. That's the part that many will take exception to, but in this age of eye test final scores and margin of victory also carry weight so I get it.
Rutgers 95 was the QB audibling to a play because of the defensive look, not a called play from the bench.
Maryland got uppity a decade ago refusing to shake hands and celebrating a 20-19 win over a sanctions depleted roster like they won a Super Bowl. PSU should continue to grind them into the dirt every single time we play them and nourish themselves on turtle tears. F Locksley. F Maryland.
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Hmmm....I initially thought the same thing. But I liked Coach Franklin's response in his presser. A CFB game is 60 minutes. Why deprive the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string players the full playbook? Message to Maryland.....play better. If it happens to us in the future, so be it, lesson will be learned. Sadly, the Terps weren't competitive today for the full 60 minutes, even against our backups.
He's right but with 4 seconds on the clock it's time to just say enough. No good reason to open yourself and your team to criticism. That 6 points doesn't mean a thing. That felt personal and frankly was bad sportsmanship. I don't how you describe it in any other way.
We just had to listen to the whole country say "tHeY oNlY won By 1 PoInT!" for a week, so screw em all!
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After watching Joe ( and others) for decades, invariably ( and rightly, I think) take his “ foot off the gas” when the game was in hand, I get the angst. — That said, Franklin’s reasoning is sound. The game has changed …. for better or worse. —My concern is with adjacent ancillary/administrative “awards”. This has at least some potential for voters to become passive aggressive/more subjective secondary to a perceived wrong. —I hope voters don’t use this as an excuse not to award Warren, Carter etc for well deserved awards. JMO
Scoring is scoring. Until the other team starts kneeling it down, it's a live game. I get the concept and sadly everything JF does is perceived as bad because he doesn't beat OSU. That's the part that is annoying.
I don't disagree completely. I said during game that I think that it's fine to leave your playbook open as long you have substituted. I'm not sure that I take that last shot to score at the end. Those last style points won't make a difference in seeding for the playoffs. Anyway, tempest in a teapot.
I just think we should have thrown the ball on second down. Once the clock was running then and the game was going to end without another play, it does seem excessive to keep running plays.
If we wanted to play for the score, I think it should have been called differently
If we wanted to play for the score, I think it should have been called differently
THAT is why I can't be completely pissed
The thing is, technically he's right. It just doesn't feel right to us because we take pride in being Penn State, and that's not what Penn State is necessarily about.
But..uh, Rutgers 95 😂. I keep getting back to that. Joe could have ordered McQueary to take a knee. I'm not letting Joe off the hook because MM was a degenerate gambler at the age of 19.
And again, this is coming from a recovering gambling addict. I have not gambled since my clean date which I posted on here. I'm quite proud of that because I AM a gambling addict, way worse than MM ever was.
But..uh, Rutgers 95 😂. I keep getting back to that. Joe could have ordered McQueary to take a knee. I'm not letting Joe off the hook because MM was a degenerate gambler at the age of 19.
And again, this is coming from a recovering gambling addict. I have not gambled since my clean date which I posted on here. I'm quite proud of that because I AM a gambling addict, way worse than MM ever was.
You know McQueary had money on the game. Joe didn't.
I’m wondering if anyone is bashing Indiana for 66-0.
Paterno had over 400 wins and it happened once.
Joe, in fact, gave the exact same response, once upon a time.
Doing this from memory, but there was a game, against Cincinnati I think. Wound up 80-something to zero or very little. After the game, Joe was asked about running up the score. His reply was that it was 3rd and 4th string guys playing and he couldn't tell them not to play football.
My first response was harsh but after some reflection, I don't think it's a huge deal.
I believe it was 81-0. Paterno emptied the bench. I think if you had a Penn State uniform on you got to play.
Really. What are you, 6 years old? No most 6 year olds are more articulate than you.
Joe cost Kijana Carter the Heisman by taking his foot off the gas. He might have cost the team the Natty by doing the same at Indiana. Joe was great but he very frequently refused to accept the unwritten rules and it cost his team. Unwritten rule #1: Voters don’t watch games. They only look at the final score: Margin of victory matters.
Some MD fans I know have been ranting about this since it happened. As someone pointed out above, in 2014 THEIR CAPTAINS REFUSED TO SHAKE HANDS AT THE COIN FLIP at the Beav.
Sorry, Turtles. Who knows when we will need our 2d,3d,4th team guys to win a late one...you know, like in the playoffs? They have to have the skills and the confidence....you know, like MD's team doesn't?
Sorry, Turtles. Who knows when we will need our 2d,3d,4th team guys to win a late one...you know, like in the playoffs? They have to have the skills and the confidence....you know, like MD's team doesn't?
It’s not like he had his starters in and they faked a knee or something. He plays the backups and they gain valuable experience. May even keep some from transferring. If Maryland was good enough to be in the same position, they’d do it too. Easy to claim you wouldn’t do something when you’ve never been there.
