Franklin presser

[Jerry]

Well, there is no "responsible party" at PSU. Two adult males are accused of awful crimes. There is an alleged victim and two alleged perps. All of them have legal rights. PSU needs to let the process play out.

What people don't understand about law today is that you don't need a legit claim. This is especially true in cases where one party is a public figure and the reputation of the claim will cause irreparable harm. The woman, I am almost 100% certain, will make some kind of claim that PSU didn't protect her. That claim will never go to court and be settled but an sloppy statement by the coach could add to her claim. So if CJF said "man, we feel horrible for her" that would be used as evidence that they know they were capable and should be held in a civil penalty. Or if PSU said "we are aware of the situation and decided it warranted the men's dismissal" and for whatever reason they win their case, they'll sue PSU for defamation. And they'll win a substantial out-of-court settlement.

One of my best friends, the founder of the company I worked for, had an Xmas party with the senior leadership team. A woman got drunk and in some edgy conversations that included five people, she grabbed his hand and placed it on her breast. She was telling him she had the nicest breasts in the room. Two months later, she sued. His lawyer advised that she would lose in court because several people witnessed it, including me. But she would say he bought the drinks and purposely got her drunk so she'd be vulnerable. That would extend the case and damage his reputation. So he settled out of court for a low six-figure sum with an NDA. Three months later she made the claim that employees were pirating software and her lawyer tried to get an analysis done of every single employee's software to audit if it was licensed or pirated. At this point, the company realized that they had to fight lest have several more of these experiences. The company spent ~ $300k and two years to fight that lawsuit. That is just the hard numbers. They lost a ton more in soft dollars as various employees spent a lot of time working on it. A year later, a woman sued because she was not hired for a position claiming this was done because she was Asian. The company, based in LA, brought the lawyer in and gave him a tour. Not only was the owner Asian, but over 50% of the employees were Asian as well. LOL.

Interesting stories in your closing paragraph, Obli, but not at all surprising in this day and age.

As for your other points, you're right of course, but there is no debate about the fact that the only permissible answer in this situation...and we've heard it 100 times before in circumstances like this...is: "I'm not at liberty to comment on an ongoing legal matter."

Yesterday's manufactured media indignation had no quarrel with that response nor was it aimed at the reaction of the team and the university to the alleged incident a few months ago.

Rather, it was only about the optics...stepping away from the podium and having the flunky provide the canned statement instead of the coach.

As I said in a post above, these media guys need something for their daily dose of indignation and yesterday that was it. But there's no there there. The caravan is already moving on. However, I guess this was as good a way as any for us to while away the hours before the game tomorrow evening.

 

[LandoComando]

Or 20,000 posts. Can he/she get it done within 3 years? Magic 8 ball says yes.

I got that easy

 

[GregInPitt]

They only turn out to be about me when other people attack me instead of the issue at hand. Simple concept one would think

No one "attacks" you.

You state your opinion and others state theirs. If you could state yours independently without making it a response to anyone that has a different opinion than you do, you'd be treating threads more like what a message board seems intended to be. You seem to feel you are here to "correct" others opinions, but a message board is always full of opinions that differ, a concept you don't seem to "get". Trying to "correct" opinions is a waste of time and only makes you look foolish. That really is a simple concept. Unfortunately you don't seem to "get it"..........

 

[Obliviax]

Interesting stories in your closing paragraph, Obli, but not at all surprising in this day and age.

As for your other points, you're right of course, but there is no debate about the fact that the only permissible answer in this situation...and we've heard it 100 times before in circumstances like this...is: "I'm not at liberty to comment on an ongoing legal matter."

Yesterday's manufactured media indignation had no quarrel with that response nor was it aimed at the reaction of the team and the university to the alleged incident a few months ago.

Rather, it was only about the optics...stepping away from the podium and having the flunky provide the canned statement instead of the coach.

As I said in a post above, these media guys need something for their daily dose of indignation and yesterday that was it. But there's no there there. The caravan is already moving on. However, I guess this was as good a way as any for us to while away the hours before the game tomorrow evening.

that was told to the press before the presser started. they were told to contact PSU communications if they had any questions. So what did they do? They asked two questions, filmed it, and edited it so that the PSU stating that the coach would not take questions on this matter didn't show.

that is our media today.

 

[LandoComando]

No one "attacks" you.

You state your opinion and others state theirs. If you could state yours independently without making it a response to anyone that has a different opinion than you do, you'd be treating threads more like what a message board seems intended to be. You seem to feel you are here to "correct" others opinions, but a message board is always full of opinions that differ, a concept you don't seem to "get". Trying to "correct" opinions is a waste of time and only makes you look foolish. That really is a simple concept. Unfortunately you don't seem to "get it"..........

Read some of the comments. I don't care that they attack. Just shows they can make a valid argument but they do.
Some don't seem to comprehend what an opinion is...it is not an opinion that we handled this poorly so it got national attention. That's a fact.

 

[Obliviax]

Read some of the comments. I don't care that they attack. Just shows they can make a valid argument but they do.
Some don't seem to comprehend what an opinion is...it is not an opinion that we handled this poorly so it got national attention. That's a fact.

there was no way to handle it better. The video was parsed to show CJF being pissed off that no matter how many times the press was told that he wouldn't entertain questions on this subject, they continued to ask.

Remember, Joe said "In hindsight, I wish I had done more." This seems like a common sense comment when any disaster comes to light. yet, it was used to eviscerate Joe for years.

You can't win with today's press. I wonder why they still have Q&A sessions. Just come out, make a statement and walk off.

 

[LandoComando]

there was no way to handle it better. The video was parsed to show CJF being pissed off that no matter how many times the press was told that he wouldn't entertain questions on this subject, they continued to ask.

Remember, Joe said "In hindsight, I wish I had done more." This seems like a common sense comment when any disaster comes to light. yet, it was used to eviscerate Joe for years.

You can't win with today's press. I wonder why they still have Q&A sessions. Just come out, make a statement and walk off.

There was--Franklin stays at the podium and says "Please refer to the statement"
The head coach can never walk away--it looks like they're evading.
Paterno was correct when he said that and honest--he wished he would have done more. Of course he wished that. "The powers that be" are the ones that made that situation worse--not Paterno.
Franklin just had to say "We have no further comment. Next question"
He can't be angry about them asking him questions regarding this situation. He cowered--and that's what everyone is saying
Again, they don't dictate what the media can ask--how you handle that is what matters
Not Franklin's fault--horrible PR/MR department

 

[Obliviax]

There was--Franklin stays at the podium and says "Please refer to the statement"
The head coach can never walk away--it looks like they're evading.
Paterno was correct when he said that and honest--he wished he would have done more. Of course he wished that. "The powers that be" are the ones that made that situation worse--not Paterno.
Franklin just had to say "We have no further comment. Next question"
He can't be angry about them asking him questions regarding this situation. He cowered--and that's what everyone is saying
Again, they don't dictate what the media can ask--how you handle that is what matters
Not Franklin's fault--horrible PR/MR department

We'll have to agree to disagree. It was a no-win situation. PSU was lucky that this all flew under the radar until now. We can thank our lucky stars we have such eager beavers in the media when an incident like this, that has nothing to do with football, is made into a national event.

 

[ryoder1]

This notion that we now have some kind of PR nightmare situation where Franklin is going to be lambasted by the national media by not making a "no comment" comment seems way exaggerated and overly negative to me.

He could have and should have just said we have no comment, it is an ongoing legal matter. But they wanted to handle it the way it was done. I am fairly confident this was what he was told to do. Was it the right strategy? Probably not but that doesn't mean we all of a sudden have some kind of media crisis. I don't think that suddenly turns this story into some kind of huge national news story. Why? Because he walked to the side and had a statement read by someone else?

This is not a story in itself. The story is there are two former players accused of rape, etc. That is the story not Franklin deferring to a spokesperson to read a statement. If he had argued with one of the media members or had gotten visibly irritated with them or actually said something about the situation then that would have snowballed into national headlines.

 

[Obliviax]

This notion that we now have some kind of PR nightmare situation where Franklin is going to be lambasted by the national media by not making a "no comment" comment seems way exaggerated and overly negative to me.

He could have and should have just said we have no comment, it is an ongoing legal matter. But they wanted to handle it the way it was done. I am fairly confident this was what he was told to do. Was itt the right strategy? Probably not but that doesn't mean we all of a sudden have some kind of media crisis. I don't think that suddenly turns this story into some kind of huge national news story. Why? Because he walked to the side and had a statement read by someone else?

This is not a story in itself. The story is there are two former players accused of rape, etc. That is the story not Franklin deferring to a spokesperson to read a statement. If he had argued with one of the media members or had gotten visibly irritated with them or actually said something about the situation then that would have snowballed into national headlines.

that is, basically, what PSU said in the statement.

 

[mcpat]

I don’t know why, but too many people (IMO) give the media a pass for being jerks for the reason that they are “doing their jobs”.

I’m not buying it. Their jobs were to report the official statement. Did they really think they’d get more comment than that? No. They wanted to film an encounter that they were hoping would turn awkward and they got their wish.

They made the news that wasn’t otherwise there and then reported on it.

I’ve lost a lot of respect for one of the reporters. And if that’s what it’s always been like with that reporter and I didn’t know it, so be it. But I am unsubscribing and unfollowing.

I want to know about the football team from the beat reporters. That’s it. I don’t want them trying to embarrass the program.

 

[LandoComando]

We'll have to agree to disagree. It was a no-win situation. PSU was lucky that this all flew under the radar until now. We can thank our lucky stars we have such eager beavers in the media when an incident like this, that has nothing to do with football, is made into a national event.

They were on the football team when the event occurred--how does that have nothing to do with football?
Again, if this happened at Ohio State--we all know the reaction would be different.
None of this would have been a national event if Franklin stays at the podium and says, "We have no further comment regarding an on-going legal issue. Please refer to our statement." It's that he walked away.

 

[LandoComando]

This notion that we now have some kind of PR nightmare situation where Franklin is going to be lambasted by the national media by not making a "no comment" comment seems way exaggerated and overly negative to me.

He could have and should have just said we have no comment, it is an ongoing legal matter. But they wanted to handle it the way it was done. I am fairly confident this was what he was told to do. Was it the right strategy? Probably not but that doesn't mean we all of a sudden have some kind of media crisis. I don't think that suddenly turns this story into some kind of huge national news story. Why? Because he walked to the side and had a statement read by someone else?

This is not a story in itself. The story is there are two former players accused of rape, etc. That is the story not Franklin deferring to a spokesperson to read a statement. If he had argued with one of the media members or had gotten visibly irritated with them or actually said something about the situation then that would have snowballed into national headlines.

And the bold is the discussion--it was not the right strategy yet some are trying to defend it
It did turn into a huge story because he walked away from the podium--that's not an opinion--that's what happened.
Next week we play Ohio State is our biggest game of the year (their biggest game too) and you don't think because of that the national media is going to be asking him about it repeatedly?

 

[JWB389]

I don’t know why, but too many people (IMO) give the media a pass for being jerks for the reason that they are “doing their jobs”.

I’m not buying it. Their jobs were to report the official statement. Did they really think they’d get more comment than that? No. They wanted to film an encounter that they were hoping would turn awkward and they got their wish.

They made the news that wasn’t otherwise there and then reported on it.

I’ve lost a lot of respect for one of the reporters. And if that’s what it’s always been like with that reporter and I didn’t know it, so be it. But I am unsubscribing and unfollowing.

I want to know about the football team from the beat reporters. That’s it. I don’t want them trying to embarrass the program.

My observation….they HAD to come away with a story. PSU was not giving them a story on the crime. Instead, they made Franklin the story. Either way, they got a story….for clicks.

 

[Obliviax]

So here is a video on the statement before CJF took the mic at the presser...

 

[LandoComando]

My observation….they HAD to come away with a story. PSU was not giving them a story on the crime. Instead, they made Franklin the story. Either way, they got a story….for clicks.

No one is talking about the act--they're talking about how horrible we handled it from a PR perspective.
Why does everyone believe the world it out to get Penn State?

 

[Hotshoe]

So here is a video on the statement before CJF took the mic at the presser...

View embedded media

She is so phony with her response, then she restricts comments. So much for a free press. She's an absolute joke.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Shoe, you're talking to Lando here. He'll argue about it for the sake of arguing for 20 pages...or until Christmas...whichever comes first.

Bird-brains' nonsense about noon kickoffs generating the best ratings another great example. The NFL does Saturday broadcasts the last two weeks of the regular season (4 games - two on each of 2 channels) because there are no CFB games during those weeks. The NFL broadcasts these games in the 4pm and Primetime timeslots.... - complete nonsense that noon on Saturday is the best ratings timeslot for broadcasting a football game on a Saturday, but don't try to point out reality to troll-boy douchebag.

 

[Hotshoe]

No one is talking about the act--they're talking about how horrible we handled it from a PR perspective.
Why does everyone believe the world it out to get Penn State?

Literally, no one cares about that. A handful of gotcha idiots got their 15 minutes, and it's not even news now. There is nothing on the ESPN ticker. So much for your weeks of comments.

If I'm James, I do the same damn thing. Dear Audrey, you just heard the official statement, later. Hope it was worth it. Call me when you want to talk football, something I can legally, and officially talk about per the UNIVERSITY I WORK FOR!

Or, Franklin could have stayed, looked right at her and said, Audrey, do you have a hearing problem? What don't you get? When do you want me to stop making you look like the fool you are? Now, can we get back to Wisconsin.

New headline on ESPN. Man bites dog, tells him to get off my lawn and stop pissing on my bushes!

 

[LandoComando]

Literally, no one cares about that. A handful of gotcha idiots got their 15 minutes, and it's not even news now. There is nothing on the ESPN ticker. So much for your weeks of comments.

If I'm James, I do the same damn thing. Dear Audrey, you just heard the official statement, later. Hope it was worth it. Call me when you want to talk football, something I can legally, and officially talk about per the UNIVERSITY I WORK FOR!

Or, Franklin could have stayed, looked right at her and said, Audrey, do you have a hearing problem? What don't you get? When do you want me to stop making you look like the fool you are? Now, can we get back to Wisconsin.

New headline on ESPN. Man bites dog, tells him to get off my lawn and stop pissing on my bushes!

First topic on ESPN on the NCAAF page https://www.espn.com/college-football/
It will remain as a discussion point because of how it was handled. I'm not blaming James--I'm blaming the PR staff.
That's likely why you aren't in a position like James. The individuals arrested were on the football team. I understand why you and others seem to think this has nothing to do with football.
All he had to say was, "Please refer to the statement. We have no further comment but I'll be glad to discuss the Wisconsin game." Like every other program would have done.

 

[GregInPitt]

Read some of the comments. I don't care that they attack. Just shows they can make a valid argument but they do.
Some don't seem to comprehend what an opinion is...it is not an opinion that we handled this poorly so it got national attention. That's a fact.

It's an opinion.

There again you some how feel the need to respond to me with the opinion you already stated, knowing that I disagree and obviously won't be swayed by you incessant direct responses to me. At this point my only advice to you is to grow up, and I'll have you on "ignore" until you do. Cheers!

 

[Hotshoe]

First topic on ESPN on the NCAAF page https://www.espn.com/college-football/
It will remain as a discussion point because of how it was handled. I'm not blaming James--I'm blaming the PR staff.
That's likely why you aren't in a position like James. The individuals arrested were on the football team. I understand why you and others seem to think this has nothing to do with football.
All he had to say was, "Please refer to the statement. We have no further comment but I'll be glad to discuss the Wisconsin game." Like every other program would have done.

It's not even on the ticker. It's not news. No one cares!

Franklin refuses to comment. He walked away when a reporter asked him about it. Pull up the bridge of the castle across the moat. Load the cannons! Lmao.

 

[ryoder1]

They were on the football team when the event occurred--how does that have nothing to do with football?
Again, if this happened at Ohio State--we all know the reaction would be different.
None of this would have been a national event if Franklin stays at the podium and says, "We have no further comment regarding an on-going legal issue. Please refer to our statement." It's that he walked away.

Two Penn State football players accused of sexual assault. This is national news whether you like it or not. Especially since the Sandusky scandal happened at the same school. Franklin walking away from the podium..I guess that is national news in your mind as well. Anyway, don't bury the lead, the sexual assault is national news. Terrible look for the program.

 

[LandoComando]

It's an opinion.

There again you some how feel the need to respond to me with the opinion you already stated, knowing that I disagree and obviously won't be swayed by you incessant direct responses to me. At this point my only advice to you is to grow up, and I'll have you on "ignore" until you do. Cheers!

How is it an opinion? That's literally what is being discussed. I'm fine with anyone putting me on ignore that can't comprehend that this was handled poorly.

 

[LandoComando]

Two Penn State football players accused of sexual assault. This is national news whether you like it or not. Especially since the Sandusky scandal happened at the same school. Franklin walking away from the podium..I guess that is national news in your mind as well. Anyway, don't bury the lead, the sexual assault is national news. Terrible look for the program.

Then why wasn't it national news when the statement was released on Wednesday?
How it was handled made it national news--no one cares about what happened with the players--that happens everywhere. We're under scrutiny for how we handle things not that they happen.
We did the right think by releasing the players and then we screwed up the presser.

 

[Hotshoe]

Two Penn State football players accused of sexual assault. This is national news whether you like it or not. Especially since the Sandusky scandal happened at the same school. Franklin walking away from the podium..I guess that is national news in your mind as well. Anyway, don't bury the lead, the sexual assault is national news. Terrible look for the program.

Yes, because this doesn't happen at every university, city, and town in America. Campus rapes have nothing to do with football, it's a far bigger issue. Folks should know this.

 

[GSPMax]

It's not even on the ticker. It's not news. No one cares!

Franklin refuses to comment. He walked away when a reporter asked him about it. Pull up the bridge of the castle across the moat. Load the cannons! Lmao.

ESPN must not have any updates on Herbies dog. Their story is about 27 hours old.

 

[ryoder1]

It's an opinion.

There again you some how feel the need to respond to me with the opinion you already stated, knowing that I disagree and obviously won't be swayed by you incessant direct responses to me. At this point my only advice to you is to grow up, and I'll have you on "ignore" until you do. Cheers!

Yes, that's an opinion. Did you miss 4th grade? Were you sick the day they went over this?

Here's a little lesson for you....

Penn State is 6-0. FACT

Penn State has an excellent defense. OPINION

Penn State wears all white uniforms when playing road games FACT

The all white uniforms Penn Stste wears are cheap looking, butt ugly and reflect poorly on the University OPINION

James Franklin walked away from the podium at the presser FACT

Penn State handled the presser poorly and as a result it got national news OPINION

Getting the hang of it?

Now, you are entitled to your opinion and can state it over and over as you like to do but that does not transform it into fact.

 

[Hotshoe]

Then why wasn't it national news when the statement was released on Wednesday?
How it was handled made it national news--no one cares about what happened with the players--that happens everywhere. We're under scrutiny for how we handle things not that they happen.
We did the right think by releasing the players and then we screwed up the presser.

Get real dude. 2 guys, immediately kicked off the team, who never played for Penn State, immediately delt with, kicked off the team, and out of the university. Handled 100% correctly. Franklin not responding? Not news, and will be out of anyone's thoughts in a few hours.

Now this is real news and won't go away.

Authorities blame cartels for 'house of horrors' in Texas sex trafficking raid

Authorities in Texas rescued dozens of women believed to have been recruited by the cartel for sex trafficking.

kfoxtv.com

 

[GSPMax]

No one is talking about the act--they're talking about how horrible we handled it from a PR perspective.
Why does everyone believe the world it out to get Penn State?

Do you not see the problem with what you are saying here?

People's lives were changed forever and you think the bigger problem is Franklin having nothing to say on a legal issue involving Penn State. Who cares what Franklin did or did not say?

You really need to look at your perspective on things.

 

[LandoComando]

Get real dude. 2 guys, immediately kicked off the team, who never played for Penn State, immediately delt with, kicked off the team, and out of the university. Handled 100% correctly. Franklin not responding? Not news, and will be out of anyone's thoughts in a few hours.

Now this is real news and won't go away.

Authorities blame cartels for 'house of horrors' in Texas sex trafficking raid

Authorities in Texas rescued dozens of women believed to have been recruited by the cartel for sex trafficking.

kfoxtv.com

It was news--because of the response. He will fade but will last through next week.
I don't understand why we're still debating if the press conference was handled well--no sane person could think that it was
It's great to defend Penn State but sometimes it's important to say, "yes, that was the wrong way to handle it" while acknowledging everything until then was handled perfectly.

 

[LandoComando]

Do you not see the problem with what you are saying here?

People's lives were changed forever and you think the bigger problem is Franklin having nothing to say on a legal issue involving Penn State. Who cares what Franklin did or did not say?

You really need to look at your perspective on things.

No--you're just saying that to deflect. I'm confident no one here will remember these players names in a year. The discussion is Penn State football not some losers that through away their lives.

 

[GSPMax]

No--you're just saying that to deflect. I'm confident no one here will remember these players names in a year. The discussion is Penn State football not some losers that through away their lives.

Deflect, wtf does that even mean?

WTF does this have to do with Penn State football.

Once again you don't get it. I don't know and don't care to know the players names now. They left the scene months ago. They, as well as the victims, will live with what happened the rest of their lives.

Penn State football is ranked #3 in the AP poll with big games and the meat of the season on the horizon. The sports jackels threw this out as a distraction and people like you jump right on their bandwagon hoping that an upset will occur with the big game this weekend so they have something to crow about next week.

 

[ryoder1]

It was news--because of the response. He will fade but will last through next week.
I don't understand why we're still debating if the press conference was handled well--no sane person could think that it was
It's great to defend Penn State but sometimes it's important to say, "yes, that was the wrong way to handle it" while acknowledging everything until then was handled perfectly.

You have no clue. You actually think no one cares about two former Penn State players being accused of rape yet everyone cares about Franklin walking away and having someone read a statement. The fact that you are obsessed about it is scary.

And you make a career on this message board whining about how fans on this board are not real and Penn State is no different than other programs...a review of your hot takes...

-Joe Paterno paid players and cheated like other programs
- We have never had a bad call go against us
-We are all delusional freaks when spotting a bad call and pointing it out (doesn't have to be Penn State)
- Joe Paterno won two big games in his career maybe a few others but his bowl record proves nothing in terms of him being a good coach

So with all this you somehow are trying to minimize the horrible news that a sexual assault occurred in the Franklin run program??? Nobody cares. You are acting like the blue and white colored sunglasses group you so open disdain!

 

[LandoComando]

Deflect, wtf does that even mean?

WTF does this have to do with Penn State football.

Once again you don't get it. I don't know and don't care to know the players names now. They left the scene months ago. They, as well as the victims, will live with what happened the rest of their lives.

Penn State football is ranked #3 in the AP poll with big games and the meat of the season on the horizon. The sports jackels threw this out as a distraction and people like you jump right on their bandwagon hoping that an upset will occur with the big game this weekend so they have something to crow about next week.

And you're telling me you care about the victims? I'm sure you really stay up thinking about their ordeal.

I said it was an issue before anyone nationally said a word. The site even said it was handled wrong as many others. We have a mid-tier game this weekend against a team we should easily beat. Unfortunately because we handled it poorly Franklin now has to deal with it next week again with national media who won't back down if he steps away.

 

[LandoComando]

You have no clue. You actually think no one cares about two former Penn State players being accused of rape yet everyone cares about Franklin walking away and having someone read a statement. The fact that you are obsessed about it is scary.

And you make a career on this message board whining about how fans on this board are not real and Penn State is no different than other programs...a review of your hot takes...

-Joe Paterno paid players and cheated like other programs
- We have never had a bad call go against us
-We are all delusional freaks when spotting a bad call and pointing it out (doesn't have to be Penn State)
- Joe Paterno won two big games in his career maybe a few others but his bowl record proves nothing in terms of him being a good coach

So with all this you somehow are trying to minimize the horrible news that a sexual assault occurred in the Franklin run program??? Nobody cares. You are acting like the blue and white colored sunglasses group you so open disdain!

I never said Paterno paid anyone. I said players were paid while he was here. Same is true everywhere.
Bad calls go against all programs. The issue is people here believe that's not true. It's just us. Then use it as an excuse for failure.
Yes you all worry about the refs way too much.
Paterno is a great coach because of his success. He won may more than a couple big games. Most of the bowl games weren't impressive just like most of the bowl losses weren't relevant.
Franklin dismissed the players. It was handled perfectly until the press conference

 

[Jerry]

Page 6 of the Lando-fueled non-story about the flunky issuing the standard no-comment rather than Franklin. Shocking I tell you. Meanwhile, the caravan moved on this morning. All that's left of is the camel poop. The noise of the dogs barking after it has long since faded away.

What guys have to understand is that Lando will argue this until the Lord returns in glory. You will never get the last word. He's in the grip of a deep-seated compulsion to go on...and on...and on...and is therefore psychologically incapable of simply saying, well, I made my point, and we'll agree to disagree.

Next comes whether Wisconsin is any good (no, says Lando) and whether the game against Wisconsin qualifies as "big" (no, says Lando). He'll argue that ad infinitum as well.

Lando, the sun rises in the east. I insist that it does. It does. It simply does. Nothing you say will dissuade me. ((Let's see if he jumps on this too.))

Meanwhile, back in Sane World, 27 hours and change until kick.

 

[LandoComando]

Page 6 of the Lando-fueled non-story about the flunky issuing the standard no-comment rather than Franklin. Shocking I tell you. Meanwhile, the caravan moved on this morning. All that's left of is the camel poop. The noise of the dogs barking after it has long since faded away.

What guys have to understand is that Lando will argue this until the Lord returns in glory. You will never get the last word. He's in the grip of a deep-seated compulsion to go on...and on...and on...and is therefore psychologically incapable of simply saying, well, I made my point, and we'll agree to disagree.

Next comes whether Wisconsin is any good (no, says Lando) and whether the game against Wisconsin qualifies as "big" (no, says Lando). He'll argue that ad infinitum as well.

Lando, the sun rises in the east. I insist that it does. It does. It simply does. Nothing you say will dissuade me. ((Let's see if he jumps on this too.))

Meanwhile, back in Sane World, 27 hours and change until kick.

Read all the tweets--not Lando fueled--nationally fueled
Good try though
Is Wisconsin ranked? Has Wisconsin beat anyone with a pulse? Just accept reality
It's not a bad thing to believe we're the far superior team--especially when we clearly are.
obsessed

 

[mcpat]

And you make a career on this message board

Wait… I can get paid to do this?

 

[ryoder1]

If you babbled for 100 years you couldn't give me a lesson.

I was responding to someone that doesn't realize that people have different opinions than he does, and believes that repeating his opinion will make it into a fact.

Save your lunch money and buy yourself a clue.

Getting the hang of it??

I didn't mean to respond to you. Sorry about that. I'm responding to this Lando guy. You and I actually agree.