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It is an odd group over there to say the least. You are talking about a group of people who can't believe parents can help pay for a kid's college if it helps chase a dream. You are talking about a group of people who point toward Sandusky as if he has anything to do with PSU wrestling while forgetting Mother Tomresa was suspended from his senior year of post season wrestling for involvement in a potential gang rape. You are talking about a group of people who mock ISU for hiring former Hawkeyes while forgetting Iowa wrestling is nothing without a former Cyclone building a dynasty. You are talking about a group of people who are so stricken with jealousy they can't help themselves. Sorry for the rant!

Three adjectives describe the HR community - Passionate, delusional, and bitter. Very bitter. Mix them all together and you have near endless hours of reading entertainment that you can't get anywhere else.
 
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I agree with you. But IMO its because we don't have a bunch of threads on here complaining about Iowa's recruiting methods or the like. When we do have spyker/rings/real throw out an inane comment about Tom Brands, it did use to show up on your boards. Not so much much anymore, as he is universally recognized for what he is unless you've been living in a cave.

Most of the threads here are wrestling oriented. (BTW, you noticed that Super32 thread came to an abrupt stop here, lol, do you think it had anything to do with a minor football game being played????) I used to post a bit on the HR and spend some time there. Used to be the same over there - lots of great wrestling posts.

The past year or so it has become increasingly difficult to wade through the murk there. The tin foil guys just have to weigh in on every other thread, every other thread becomes PSU-Iowa back and forth thing - and, yes, there are some PSU trolls that go over there and contribute heavily to that, just love to post one comment and get their desired response, like shooting fish in a barrel. It has become increasingly salty over there, no National Championships in a long time, the hope of 2020 or whenever getting increasingly dim as PSU and tOSU continue to eclipse the recruiting promise that seemed so great for Iowa last year but has suddenly fallen short. I don't post over there that much any more even though I rarely get any sh*t because it pretty much seems pointless now. Your moderator may be great, but the tin-foils are essentially doing the censoring now.

Guys like you are doing your board no favors. The reason Iowa is falling down has nothing to do with how much kids are getting at camps (if you really want to get knowledgeable about this topic you should try putting a call into JRob instead of NCAA compliance offices, he should be free right now) or jobs at the NLWC (anyone who thinks logically about this knows this is a non-perk, with no added value beyond what could already be earned, but that is too much thinking for the tin-foils).

Bottom-line is that although the Brands are great coaches, among the tops in the nation, they are not as good of recruiters as Cael & Co. It's obviously not a natural thing for them although they are trying hard to rectify that. They really need a superstar staff to bolster this up. And right now they have less to sell than both PSU or tOSU in a worse recruiting base. It's a tough spot if you are aiming for #1.
Dice, are you saying there are just so many top level college administrative jobs the Brands boys can offer?
 
Three adjectives describe the HR community - Passionate, delusional, and bitter. Very bitter. Mix them all together and you have near endless hours of reading entertainment that you can't get anywhere else.
Bruce,
I am going with passionately delusional.
 
I gladly would if I knew what comment got me banned. Hell, a few admitted I didn't say anything that warranted a ban. Chief and I don't particularly see eye to eye and even he said I shouldn't have been banned. It's clear why I was though. Your Mod made it clear to me why PSU folks are banned there. He gets tired of his inbox being flooded with whiny pms begging him to ban certain people so he does it to appease them. He pretty much admitted it.

This is pretty much spot on. I got banned, I think (although, because the mods there don't communicate with you, I'll never know for sure), because I told HR posters doing "because Sandusky" that bringing Sandusky into Penn State wrestling discussions was just about as bad as bringing Gable's sister into Iowa wrestling discussions. I thought that would help them understand how inappropriate it was. I know Rutgers mods get whining pm's that drive them crazy, too. This boggles my mind.
 
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A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.
 
The open and corrosive bitterness is part of what makes the HR routine so freaking hilarious.

Yup, without question. Without the overt and caustic bitterness, HR would not be nearly so entertaining. Fortunately, I don't see that changing any time soon.
 
A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.

If the common theme here on BWI was that Brands is a cheating, scumbag I think you would understand why some of us find it hard to post over there and have common ground.

No one does that here. We may make fun of tan Tom or even Brands jokes but NEVER with the contempt, hate and out and out lies most ther say about Cael.
 
A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.

It's much more than a few, but I'll give you a "Like" for the effort. Both boards have their percentage of haters.
 
A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.
I think you missed the point. What has many here a tad upset is Brands assertion that cheating is going on at the collegiate level. A charge you basically agreed with by saying 'he's honest'. If Brands is going to make that assertion he needs to back it up with facts. I had a high opinion of Brands until this accusation. Back the statement with facts or acknowledge it was fake news.
 
This is pretty much spot on. I got banned, I think (although, because the mods there don't communicate with you, I'll never know for sure), because I told HR posters doing "because Sandusky" that bringing Sandusky into Penn State wrestling discussions was just about as bad as bringing Gable's sister into Iowa wrestling discussions. I thought that would help them understand how inappropriate it was. I know Rutgers mods get whining pm's that drive them crazy, too. This boggles my mind.

What a horrible comparison, no wonder you were banned.
 
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It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR..

My experience was about 90% down right vile, with people saying they wanted to fight me under a bridge and another poster swearing then asking chief for a pass, which he gave. All because I had the nerve to ask if Vodka was going to follow through on his board with what he said here he did. Instead he totally gave a guy a pass for bringing up Sandusky.
I agree with the open and corrosive bitterness.
 
My experience was about 90% down right vile, with people saying they wanted to fight me under a bridge and another poster swearing then asking chief for a pass, which he gave. All because I had the nerve to ask if Vodka was going to follow through on his board with what he said here he did. Instead he totally gave a guy a pass for bringing up Sandusky.
I agree with the open and corrosive bitterness.

You take this message board stuff way too serious.
 
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A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.
If I went to HR and put on Ignore all of the posters who like the PSU cheating conspiracies, HR would all but disappear entirely.
 
I think you missed the point. What has many here a tad upset is Brands assertion that cheating is going on at the collegiate level. A charge you basically agreed with by saying 'he's honest'. If Brands is going to make that assertion he needs to back it up with facts. I had a high opinion of Brands until this accusation. Back the statement with facts or acknowledge it was fake news.

He wasn’t the only one to have that assertion recently.
 
You take this message board stuff way too serious.
Honestly you do not know me one bit so not sure where that comes from. But I couldn't care less, I said I would not post there again and I haven't. I am not going to let someone come on here and act like it is all rainbows, puppies and unicorns on HR. There are some very vile people there. Something others are also stating. Are they all taking it too serious?
 
I've now found that if you have a problem with what's being said on HR, throw a quick jab or two and then get the hell out of dodge for a few days. Let things simmer down then go back and give them one swift kick to the balls... just one though and get out again.

See, I think if you're persistent and hang around to fight with them you're going to get banned. That's when they start to whine to the mod. Best to just make your point and leave. I think they already realize a lot of the stuff they say is idiotic and adults crying "cheater....cheater" is childish. They just don't want us there to remind them. They want to work the way they work without interruption.
 
Honestly you do not know me one bit so not sure where that comes from. But I couldn't care less, I said I would not post there again and I haven't. I am not going to let someone come on here and act like it is all rainbows, puppies and unicorns on HR. There are some very vile people there. Something others are also stating. Are they all taking it too serious?

Yes, most people take it way too serious. The “fighting under a bridge” comments were a complete joke. It’s not much better over here.
 
A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.

On the contrary, there is no hated here, at least not from me. As stated previously, I enjoy HR for exactly what it is - pure entertainment. The fact that HR is not intended to be so entertaining for the visitor just makes it even more so.

Edit - It's WAY more than a "few" posters that give HR its degrading (but entertaining) character.
 
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Honestly you do not know me one bit so not sure where that comes from. But I couldn't care less, I said I would not post there again and I haven't. I am not going to let someone come on here and act like it is all rainbows, puppies and unicorns on HR. There are some very vile people there. Something others are also stating. Are they all taking it too serious?
You don't have to leave this thread to find vile people here aswell. See how that works?
 
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If I went to HR and put on Ignore all of the posters who like the PSU cheating conspiracies, HR would all but disappear entirely.
Then what would the "HR" haters here have to bitch about? Might ruin your "fun".:)
 
Another thing of note. Any person that has access to a computer can create a profile and post on both Rivals boards. That leaves a lot of room for posers and trolls.

A lot of people hate Iowa simply because they have won so many championships and titles over the years. I believe you are experiencing that "fan hate" currently. Am i right?

When you win 6/7 titles you are going to have a clean board for the most part. Its sunny all the time in Happy Valley these days. Good for you guys.

The Sandusky crap will never go away. You have to accept that. Someone, somewhere will bring it up every year for the rest of your lives. Its an unfortunate reality.
 
As an aside, I’m assuming most cheating CP is alluding to is not the blindingly obvious and sexy bags of cash violations, but rather the boring and arcane rules surrounding illegal contacts that trips up many coaches in sports across the board.
 
The fighting under the bridge was no big deal, this though is pretty vile.

The school you support, and its administration and football staff protected and harbored a pedophile. These actions led to more young boys being molested. You and every Ped State fan on this earth make me sick. There is some truth for you douchebag. Go back to your board and converse with the rest of the peds. To the rest of the world you are all lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.

Sorry Chief, I've never been one to take shit and we all have different ways of dealing with it. I prefer nose to nose but since they are out east this is all I have. You're right though, I'm going to say what I want and I don't give 2 shits who it offends

And yes, it can be found here, but most people call it out. I am done pi**ing about this back and forth. You have your opinion, I have mine. Just don't say you can come on HR without being slammed, even for generally benign statement. And the Bael comments get old fast, the vast number of posters here have respect for the Brands. But like I said in my post there, your board, post what you want there.
 
A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.

I do appreciate your attempts at keeping things positive. There are a lot of good posters on HR. The bad apples, like w8atehawk just need to be called out more by the good posters.
 
The fighting under the bridge was no big deal, this though is pretty vile.

The school you support, and its administration and football staff protected and harbored a pedophile. These actions led to more young boys being molested. You and every Ped State fan on this earth make me sick. There is some truth for you douchebag. Go back to your board and converse with the rest of the peds. To the rest of the world you are all lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.

Sorry Chief, I've never been one to take shit and we all have different ways of dealing with it. I prefer nose to nose but since they are out east this is all I have. You're right though, I'm going to say what I want and I don't give 2 shits who it offends

And yes, it can be found here, but most people call it out. I am done pi**ing about this back and forth. You have your opinion, I have mine. Just don't say you can come on HR without being slammed, even for generally benign statement. And the Bael comments get old fast, the vast number of posters here have respect for the Brands. But like I said in my post there, your board, post what you want there.

Some of the worst stuff that I’ve ever seen on the internet.
 
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The fighting under the bridge was no big deal, this though is pretty vile.

The school you support, and its administration and football staff protected and harbored a pedophile. These actions led to more young boys being molested. You and every Ped State fan on this earth make me sick. There is some truth for you douchebag. Go back to your board and converse with the rest of the peds. To the rest of the world you are all lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.

Sorry Chief, I've never been one to take shit and we all have different ways of dealing with it. I prefer nose to nose but since they are out east this is all I have. You're right though, I'm going to say what I want and I don't give 2 shits who it offends

And yes, it can be found here, but most people call it out. I am done pi**ing about this back and forth. You have your opinion, I have mine. Just don't say you can come on HR without being slammed, even for generally benign statement. And the Bael comments get old fast, the vast number of posters here have respect for the Brands. But like I said in my post there, your board, post what you want there.
WeH8State that is. He’s insane - may off himself the first time Dresser beats his Hawkeyes
 
I do appreciate your attempts at keeping things positive. There are a lot of good posters on HR. The bad apples, like w8atehawk just need to be called out more by the good posters.

I get your point, but some posters will be who they are and won't let one ounce of criticism affect how they behave. We know that all too well here. Fortunately, we are able to have fun with it . . . as long as we keep winning.

When that last part stops being true, there may very well end up being a new cesspool in the neighborhood.
 
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Slush, the problem isn't posters like weh8, they will always be around and we have them too. It is the posters that give him a pass. We generally call out our ridiculous posters. That is the difference.

Well, in the case of that particular individual, he has been called out by some HR faithful for those posts in the past. However (as noted over there previously), since it has no affect on him, people stopped bothering.

The bottom line is that many on HR are obsessed with PSU (for good reason), and many on BWI are obsessed with what posters on HR are saying about PSU. I guess it is fine to care, but you can't expect to go into other people's house and tell them how to run it. HR posters decide how they handle "their own" -- not us.

One individual came over here to tell us how to run our show, and guess what? We jumped all over him and ridiculed him mercilessly. I'm fine with that, because it comes with the territory, and they do the same at HR. Sure, our methods may differ, but the HR isn't a warm-and-fuzzy place, anyway. That's fine -- each of us has a choice about whether to participate.

There are good people over there. They do get swamped by PSU/Cael-haters periodically, and so it just comes down to your tolerance level for wading through the crap to read good stuff, learn about various perspectives and personalities, and possibly engage. But we have no right to go on their board and tell them how they should be admonishing certain posters in their house, even if one of them did come over here and make a contradictory statement about the subject.
 
A group of fans that visit a website generated $141,130 an counting to help support Iowa wrestling. HR is the best/most active college wrestling board around! So much hatred here over nothing. Why lable all of HR with so many degrading names? It's a few posters on there that make you say that. Not all of HR.. Its the same way with this website. Please learn to separate the good with the bad and focus on the quality wrestling talk and information. The Ignore button is great option btw.
Here is the problem with your take. The minority is not the goofy shyts, they are the majority. The other consideration is even the ones who are worth reading when discussing wrestling almost all readily jump down the rabbit hole when the opportunity arises.

You know. Like when the subject used to be Tom owns Cael, Cael is a traitor to his school, Cael will be exposed once Taylor and Ruth are gone, Cael cheats, blah, blah. No matter the wrestling IQ, almost the entire board jumps down the hole and participates in the collective delusional rationalization.
 
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Slush, I agree, their house their rules, but if you let the swamp run things then you are going to get ridiculed here. That is what Vodka complained about, for no reason!
 
Here is the problem with your take. The minority is not the goofy shyts, they are the majority. The other consideration is even the ones who are worth reading when discussing wrestling almost all readily jump down the rabbit hole when the opportunity arises.

You know. Like when the subject used to be Tom owns Cael, Cael is a traitor to his school, Cael will be exposed once Taylor and Ruth are gone, Cael cheats, blah, blah. No matter the wrestling IQ, almost the entire board jumps down the hole and participates in the collective delusional rationalization.
There is a simple solution. If you don't like it because it offends you, makes you angry or uncomfortable then ignore it or avoid it completely. In my mid 20's thats what i did with some of my long time "friends". My life and health got a lot better. You are always in control
 
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