Basketball GAME THREAD: PSU Hoops vs. Maryland
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That’s true. Believe me, I was not a Chambers fan, but he did bring in some decent talent.
don't see how that could keep us out unless there is some mid major team who is ranked high and then loses their tournament, which forces in somebody who nobody expects
I thought we should have gotten in in 2017, but we didn’t, so they can easily keep us out.
After Youngs 3 to go up 13 I got up to give up and take a jacuzzi after working in the yard all morning. Figured I'd watch the gametracker as we limped to the end.
Funks return of serve 3 made me decide to watch til the end. Talor Battle era exciting finish!
Exactly. We don't want the small conferences to get 2 teams in.
and that paid off by winning the NIT and qualifying for one NCAA tournament (the one that was canceled)
which is the exact same resume as the doofus before him. so he did the same thing with far more talent. not good imo, when you fall well short of what even Jerry Dunn could do. thank goodness they made a change to Shrewsberry
my point is that Ed and Pat's programs were awful in year 2, not in the mix like this. and Pat had some talented players in year 2
PSU could be awful in year 3. Lose Pickett, Wynter, Dread, Funk, and probably Lundy.
Yes, but the "losing today" scenario also adds an extra loss.
It could end up being razor thin, so that extra loss would matter.
I haven't looked at the win probabilities yet, but I'm pretty sure that at it's peak, today's win was more improbable than the Rutgers loss.
Our resume wasn't that strong in 2017...we have a MUCH better resume this season. Will be interesting though.
what's the point? year 3 has not even happened yet. psu screwed up by not firing chambers at the point when a new coach would have had more scholarships to give, and then firing him anyway at a weird point in the year. Shrews is obviosuly an upgrade
There will almost certainly be 1-3 bids "stolen" this week...but there aren't nearly the same number of possibilities that we've seen in prior seasons. The key will be keeping in closer to "1" than "3".
that's true but i think the win today keeps us safe even with 3 bids stolen. i think we are probably 5th or 6th from the last team in now
In their defense, the landscape of college basketball has also changed. If we play this season without immediate eligibility for Funk, Wynter, and Henn, it's a much different season.
but then none of the other 300 teams can use immediate eligibility either.
why defend those guys at this point? we thought Dunn was awful 20 years ago then wasted 18 years with guys who were even worse. this is a huge breath of fresh air
I'd guess we'll be showing up as about the 4th team in come tomorrow...but another loss would also cost us a spot or two, so we'd be about the 2nd to the last team in.
Why trash them at this point?
Just keeping it real...immediate eligibility has really helped teams with lots of scholarships to fill in bigger conferences. It hasn't benefited the 300+ schools equally.
if we lose a close game to Northwestern or Illinois i don't know that we would move down at all, though we certainly would not move up
Yes, but also an extra win. Agree that it's razor thin. Need one more win to get us off the bubble.
Games that got away from us (VT, Wisc twice, Neb, & Rutgers) could really come back to bite us. Just one of those games and we're in for sure.
they were horrible. this is not the place to go into the reasons that the program could have been set on such a different path in 2003 and instead was sent into the ground.
but as to your straw man that this season was successful because we could use immediate eligibility - ok, but, it is available to everyone. when Ed and Pat didn't have it, nobody else did either. Nobody made Ed recruit 3 or 4 players sight unseen from Eastern Europe and Scandinavia in his 2nd season. that was his own brilliant idea
he also didn't know how to coach. watched him get outcoached in the closing minutes of most games for nine straight years
Unlike Dread, Lundy had a horrible finish at PSU. The Rutgers debacle and now this. Back to back tough games at BJC. PSU needs to get him going.
Good crowd today. Just goes to show what a difference winning makes. Won 4 of 5 entering this game to give us a shot at the dance. Fans show up, even for a noon game.
Good crowd today. Just goes to show what a difference winning makes. Won 4 of 5 entering this game to give us a shot at the dance. Fans show up, even for a noon game.
if he gets hot we can be dangerous. he came pretty close to doing nothing today (but did contribute the free throws that helped make the difference), and literally did nothing in the Rutgers game. i hope he finds a hot streak going into the tournament
It's still disappointing to me...make or break game against a relative "rival" and we've got 75% of the upper deck empty. I'd argue that all 13 of our peers in the conference would have sold out today, and we only filled it to 2/3rds capacity with ~5k empty seats.
Obviously students being gone contributes (as do all the complexities around our geographical disadvantage), but I dream for the day when a game this big means an automatic full house like it does at every school that we're competing against for recruits.
that statement is far from certain, in fact maybe even unlikely
And you're still sticking to that being "100%" definite? Or are you starting to realize that you might be wrong?
the statement is ludicrous. if we win thursday we are not only 100% in but have moved above a 12 seed. if we lose we are still probably in, at least better than 50%. So our odds of making it are now more like 75% yes.
so, we are 25 or 30 years into the Jordan Center and it's obvious that it has too many seats. Many events do not sell out and/or involve hanging curtains over seats.
For the sake of the basketball programs i hope someone donates money to renovate rec hall which is not only the correct size but in a better location. it is the right home for the teams
Agree but we also had 12,000 vs Rutgers. Just a few hundred shy of 11,000 with students on break today. Just win baby!
usually they don't, unless they have a consensus lock who loses in the title game. often the really small conferences end up with one bid even if the favorite gets knocked off
We closed on a 30-14 run. Wow! I had the game recorded (tracked on my phone all the way to the 8:42 mark of the second half then had to stop) but had an inkling of something good was coming because my buddy called me at about the time the game ended.
What an absolute HUGE WIN! Showing the heart and grit to make that comeback is quite impressive and speaks to coach Shrews and what he means to this program. Man has Wynter come up big in the last two games. Really happy for Dread to play like that.
I agree with Erial that it is very close IF we do not win on Thursday. I think we have a decent shot (50%) to still get in but there are other factors outside of our control.
WE ARE PENN STATE!!
What an absolute HUGE WIN! Showing the heart and grit to make that comeback is quite impressive and speaks to coach Shrews and what he means to this program. Man has Wynter come up big in the last two games. Really happy for Dread to play like that.
I agree with Erial that it is very close IF we do not win on Thursday. I think we have a decent shot (50%) to still get in but there are other factors outside of our control.
WE ARE PENN STATE!!
9-9 in Big Ten play (finished in 6th place),19 wins overall then won two games in the Big tournament. Winning the NIT proved we belonged in the NCAA compared to some of the teams that made it.
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I was there and it didn't seem all that bad for being spring break. Remember, it isn't just students that leave State College at spring break.
Conference Record doesn't matter, and 2018 was a bad year for the Big Ten (only the 5th conference overall). We had no good non-conference wins at all. RPI of 73 (that was the final year of the RPI). Our resume basically consisted of beating Ohio State three times, and very little else. Also had 3 relatively bad losses mixed in there. We weren't even all that close to the bubble (as evidenced by the fact that we were a 4 seed in the NIT).
We were certainly good enough to be in, but didn't win the games we needed to win in the regular season.
As long as they keep filling over half the tournament with mid major teams in hopes they win a game or two, many teams that should be in won’t get in.
How many times would you like me to say if we lose Thursday we won't get in?
And if I'm right you won't be quoting me.
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