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Who will Hack blame it on now??
Who will Hack blame it on now??
"Hackenberg the Horrible" article! Jets fans ready to pounce!!!
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Maybe he'll turn it around, but those claiming he was a top talent coming out of college look to be quite wrong at this point. Apparently his accuracy issues weren't an illusion after all.
I hate to see a Penn Stater struggle and I will never be gleeful because of it. I was really glad when he committed to us and overjoyed when he stuck with that commitment. However, his high school stats gave me pause. How could a 5-star recruit throw as many INT's as TD's and only have a middling 50% pass rating? It was his drive and leadership that helped us get through some very tough years--although his QB prowess on the field left something to be desired.
Some guys just don't have "it." Hack has a lot of great qualities, but "it" isn't one of them, unfortunately.
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So, the first article is from some blog called 'Yardbarker' where their source is a tweet from someone with 'a couple of sources' claiming Hack has looked 'brutally bad' (noting he's currently #4 on the depth chart - exactly how much time is he getting to show how brutally bad he is?), and the most recent link to a NY Post story that says Hack has looked both good and bad but mostly like a rookie (one willing to stay after practice to put in extra time it seems too). Which one do you think any sensible person would believe?
Come on guys, there is no need for this. Just let it go and wish him all the best!
Have to agree. I'm not a big fan of Hack on the field but off the field he was an amazing ambassador for this university when we seemed to lack leadership among the adults. Let it go. At minimum, he's going to walk away with a great degree, a good bit of money put away from a brief NFL stint and young enough to pursue a career in whatever he might chose. Or he could develop those amazing talents and stick around the NFL a long time.
But we need to be talking about the new offense, McSorley, Saquan, the WR crew and even now get giddy about Miles. No need to beat a dead horse when we are training an offense that is looking like it could be a thoroughbred.
This is a professional football story. When it comes to the Jets and QB's, their fans have good cause to "pounce", on the Jets organization that they support with their hard earned money. Jets are a well known QB grave yard of failure since the kid from Beaver Falls, PA retired.
I recall when the Mets traded Nolan Ryan because he couldn't consistently throw strikes. In time he came around. Hack is no Ryan but as a Jets fan I know both the NY media & the fan base. They're both brutal. We'll see if time & quality coaching benefits Hack, I sure hope so.
As a Penn State fan first, and a Jets fan second, I can honestly say I was extremely disappointed that the Jets took Hack that high in the second round. Love the kid, love his grit, but the Jets needed other parts and I see Hack as a total project. His mechanics, footwork, and accuracy were a mess coming out of college and needed a total re-tooling. Nothing against Hack, but when it comes to the NFL, I hate the concept of taking high risk, developmental players that high in the second round. I mean, if you get a LB or a WR and they dont end up being great, you can stick them on Special Teams and at least get some of your moneys worth, but Hack is going to be on the bench for at least 2 years and maybe never really get a starting crack with the team.
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Who will Hack blame it on now??
I wish nothing but success for Hackenberg. He was as loyal as anyone to the program and he deserves our 100% support.
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It's crazy... all rookie qb's have up and down camps. Including Peyton Manning and Brady etc... I amazed at the fans and some columnists saying how Carson Wentz passes wobble a tick too much... really? wtf? It's as if they need something to write and complain about so he had some passes wobble (but still got there with plenty of velocity) and they pick that up and run with it. Bloggers need something to write about and look for click bait.
A Blog... by a Syracuse or Pitt fan and in a comatose state it gets posted here. lol.
Tom,can we add a biddy blog board along with the test board?
Tom,can we add a biddy blog board along with the test board?
Wish the kid the best and hope he gets a real shot at his dream.http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...d_during_jets_training_camp/s1_12680_21501133
Who will Hack blame it on now??
IMO Any article that uses tweets as a source of information is not a reporter. They are a blogger especially when they spin other articles. Hack has been receiving very little reps and it is not because he has been brutally bad. He is the 4th QB, who the Jets don't want to play at all this year. They need to figure out if Smith or Petty will be the backup QB and gets Fitz his reps. I would be shocked if Hack plays at all this Thursday. The 3rd game is normally dress rehearsal so he probably won't play in that game either. The last preseason game will probably be Hack's first game. The starters don't play at all. They will give Smith and Petty one last chance to make their claim to be the backup. Hack will then play the 4th Qtr. I think the Jets are hoping that Petty plays well enough that they can cut Smith and will give him every possible rep limiting Hack's reps.
I can't believe people who call themselves Penn Staters continue to like watching him struggle.
You realize that just about all professional journalists are on twitter and use twitter to convey information, yes?
If they drafted Hack to start this year or next (or any fan/media talking head is grading him as such), they're either ignorant or stupid.
If they drafted him because of his pretty high upside, realizing he's still just 21, and were ready to be patient so that he can develop then people should probably just shut up for at least another year.
If they drafted him because of his pretty high upside, realizing he's still just 21, and were ready to be patient so that he can develop then people should probably just shut up for at least another year.
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Journalists and tweeting isn't the issue - their bogus 'unnamed sources' are. C'mon - 'brutally bad' is an obvious attempt at riling up already agitated Jets fans.
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There are still professional journalists? I know some of these clowns do get paid, but that doesn't make them real journalists.
I think Hack is going to be in the pros for a long time. Maybe he'll be traded, ride the bench...Fitzpatrick said he's a bright kid, temper the mechanics and the field vision and he'll be competitive in the league.
The reason some Penn State fans feel this way is because a lot of people, including media, have blamed Franklin for Hack's poor play. His continued poor play makes those Franklin critics look a bit wrong. As we've all said, he's big, strong, smart and has a rifle arm. Accuracy and instincts or "It", as someone said, are his weaknesses.
No, we'll hear now that Franklin "ruined him". He forced him to become inaccurate throwing the ball.
In all honesty, I thought the pick was good but one year to early. Hack could of had a great year if he stayed this season. We have to the talent (well we hope) and he could've made his case. I think he'll be a mediocre QB in the Jets system but could get better in time, maybe with another team.
I'm not at all convinced that he would have started this year. I think there's a better than even chance that he was told that there was going to be an open competition for the job and that he might not be the best fit for the new offense.
I think he's a great kid, but how he does in the NFL will be how he does in the NFL.
Just look at the photo in the article and that speaks for itself regarding Hack's accuracy problems. As usual, his feet are completely parallel with one another while he is throwing. Even the NFL coaches can't get him to move that left foot in front of him??? Just re-watched a PSU game, and Hack was making 20-25 yards throws to the sidelines with both feet parallel. Very strange, since he can't even move his hips when he throws the ball. You would think that something as basic as stepping into your throws would be QB 101 training, but no one yet has been able to correct it.
I still think he makes a respectable career in the NFL. He has too many tools not too.
Thank goodness "WE" are all "experts That is why we are on this board - isn't this the "experts" board ?
That is why we are on this board - isn't this the "experts" board ?The top part of his body is turned, but, he appears to not step into his throws. The top half of his body has to turn when throwing, but forget the bottom half, just not there. He was missing 15 yard throws in one on ones in practice which is troublesome for sure.
While I don't think Franklin ruined Hack, I think it is fair to say that Hack failed to improve under Franklin. This is likely due to fact that JF has different offensive philosophy and different expectations on QB skill set. I doubt JF spent much time improving Hack's fundamentals. Probably let the asst. coaches work with him and took hands off wheel while building his own system for post-Hack era. You could see his unhappiness on the field and obviously they were not close from relationship perspective. Hack would have been top 10 pick if O'Brien stayed bc his offense was built around strong throwing QB. He developed you personally. I think Mike OConner transferered for same reason. He said that JF wanted a dual threat QB and he did not fit mold. That is why JF does not get a free pass on O this year even with new QB and OC. He has had nearly three years now to groom McSorley to offense style that he wants. Time to put up some points or move on.
Just like Midnighter pointed out. The blogger's source for his article was unnamed sources in tweets? It is different if they are writing an article and use a tweet from Jay Glazier or a reporter from the NY Post, who actually seen practice to support or give different view points for their article. Sports Journalism is not a great field to get into. You have to sensationalize stories to try to get notice. which results in lousy reporting. In this case, you got someone writing an article about a big city team using a guy who seems to be the king of unnamed sources tweets to get notice. He also then links to a decent article written by a true professional journalist for good measure to help support his article.
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This cannot be. We were informed and told that Penn State had mismatched parts on it's offense. That it's offensive line was awful(it was, they got that one right). That it's system was too complex. That it's routes and patterns were poorly designed. That its read system was incorrect.
We were told to laud and love Hack for "sticking it out"(even though he left early).
He'll probably last longer than your guy, John Congemi did.
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What continued poor play? Dude barely gets reps as it is - spends most of his time carrying helmets for the vets. Look - when Hack gets on the field and pulls a Temple, maybe then is the time to take some shots (and I wouldn't do that to any former player personally). Right now, this 'story' is about clicks and instigation. No facts or real observations to be found anywhere. Hack and Franklin just didn't mix and we're better off a) for having both when we did and b) that they've parted ways.
If he's running 4th behind Petty, then he's going to get cut, and end up on somebody's practice squad. He does get to keep the money though. I think they'll cut Petty and keep him as their #3 qb however. At this point, he looks like maybe 2 or 3 years in the league, as a #3.
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You just never know with QB's. I'm sure the Cowboys didn't think their undrafted holder would become a Pro Bowl QB two years after signing him.
