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When I first read this thread title this morning, I thought Kemerer had finally divulged why he has been AWOL.

GIF me, Dave!!
 
it is hard to return yo yourself. I said that about Assad and was right in the middle of arguments with Hawk fans that Kem may show signs of just being "finished" with collegiate wrestling. They really didnt like that I predicted Kem wouldnt reach finals this year because of all that.
I seem to be suffering from deja vu all over again. Seems to be approaching the level of @Callthestall and his Sasso recruitment reiterations.
 
This preoccupation with all things Iowa makes me wonder. Maybe it’s the holes at four PSU weights? Maybe it’s those team title years getting farther away? I guess I get it, if you’re not good enough to win on your own merits you hope the ones better than you stumble.

So much for wanting to beat the best team on their best day.
Why would PSU want to beat themselves on their best day?

I’m sure they’d rather beat the second best team (Michigan) on their best day…or perhaps the third best team (Iowa) on their best day.
 
One of those holes just had a better win than your 149 starter has had in 4 years
That’s what I’m coming here to read. I get enough Iowa at HR, which is way better that BWI, at least that’s what people say;-

DanoWTF? Don’t be so harsh. I wouldn’t call it a drought…yet.
 
Sucks so bad for NC State. Call the pin and all else plays out the way it did and they pull off largest upset and win in their program’s history.
 
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I still credit Jimmy for creating the danger rule. Was the straw that broke the camels back IMO. Even if you don't want to call the pin, Dean was held on his back for 10+ seconds every team, that's 6 in this day and age (but likely 2 since Heil obviously just concedes the takedown)
 
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Honestly guys - as much as I wanted to see that upset, the refs aren't calling that at the end of a match when Eierman can get his shoulder blades off the mat (which he did the entire time, MAYBE for less than second were both shoulders on the mat) Refs are always very conservative with defensive pinfalls. Cassar did the same thing against Singletary in 2019 but had his shoulders off the mat and I used that argument then so I'll be consistent here.
 
Sucks so bad for NC State. Call the pin and all else plays out the way it did and they pull off largest upset and win in their program’s history.
NC State did win the Orange Bowl in CHA a few years ago ... but Iowa wasn't as good then.
 
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I still credit Jimmy for creating the danger rule. Was the straw that broke the camels back IMO. Even if you don't want to call the pin, Dean was held on his back for 10+ seconds every team, that's 6 in this day and age (but likely 2 since Heil obviously just concedes the takedown)
one of the best rule changes in recent history. i just rewatched the gulibon match and i actually think hagerty got it right. there was no point imo where heil’s shoulders were down for a full second. the same goes for the evans-perry semi.

the real problem was that the rules allowed you to lay on your back as long as you didn’t pin yourself and it made for bad wrestling. now that is fixed.
 
I may have cracked a few jokes about Kem this past few months but I do find it noble of him to want to at least try to help his team win another title. I have always liked MK, actually one of my fave Iowa guys all time,but I just dont see him being a factor this year, I doubt he can even beat Foca.
i don’t think you need to feel bad about cracking jokes about him considering he makes the same jokes himself haha
 
i don’t think you need to feel bad about cracking jokes about him considering he makes the same jokes himself haha
I know Willie mentioned Kemerer allegedly has thought about not coming back for his 6th year even ... then obviously again his 7th year. Willie said main reason is he always gets very banged up through a season, whether he let's you know it or not.

I think another big part is he probably has really good and well paying job offers everywhere, IIRC his other finalists included Stanford and Cornell. Wrestling isn't even his biggest talent. To be honest, a kid like Kemerer will probably advance VERY fast in his career and he might be ready to get started on it. All in all, I think he figures he has the rest of his life to do business stuff if he wants.

Amazing kid (every PSU young guns kid talks about how much they like him) and very smart and will do big things in his field (Finance)
 
one of the best rule changes in recent history. i just rewatched the gulibon match and i actually think hagerty got it right. there was no point imo where heil’s shoulders were down for a full second. the same goes for the evans-perry semi.

the real problem was that the rules allowed you to lay on your back as long as you didn’t pin yourself and it made for bad wrestling. now that is fixed.
The Oklahoma State announcer couldn't even defend the no pin call tbh.
 
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Off the top of my head...
1st thought - No chance it affects the Iowa dual in the least.
2nd thought - Ohio State dual won't be close enough to have a swing match.
Good point .😒 I was thinking how the matches played out against Iowa and also how Bartlett would do against Sasso. Somehow I combined the thoughts.
It's been a crazy week. Head up my arse.
Let's try this again.
How does Sasso vs Bartlett matchup play out.?
 
When I first read this thread title this morning, I thought Kemerer had finally divulged why he has been AWOL.

GIF me, Dave!!
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Sucks so bad for NC State. Call the pin and all else plays out the way it did and they pull off largest upset and win in their program’s history.
Just got back from the duals. I was seated low in the stands and had a direct look at Eierman's shoulders. He was clearly pinned by normal standards. If the refs give a longer look for a defensive pin, I can't say, but it was at least 2 seconds and probably more. Tough break for NCS. Jack almost beat Eierman on points without that pin. I was very impressed with Jack. He twice finished TD's in scrambles which is not easy to do on Eierman. He's going to be a good one.
 
I know Willie mentioned Kemerer allegedly has thought about not coming back for his 6th year even ... then obviously again his 7th year. Willie said main reason is he always gets very banged up through a season, whether he let's you know it or not.

I think another big part is he probably has really good and well paying job offers everywhere, IIRC his other finalists included Stanford and Cornell. Wrestling isn't even his biggest talent. To be honest, a kid like Kemerer will probably advance VERY fast in his career and he might be ready to get started on it. All in all, I think he figures he has the rest of his life to do business stuff if he wants.

Amazing kid (every PSU young guns kid talks about how much they like him) and very smart and will do big things in his field (Finance)
I am not surprised that Kem waited until Spring semester to wrestle. It probably helps with Iowa's 9.9 and certainly helps with Kem's bank account only having to pay for one semester. Very few wrestlers are on full scholarship.

Would not be surprised if Cael does something similar with RBY next season. Just wrestle the spring.
 
Don't think that's happening...
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Willie teased it in his 2023 Crystal Balls and I suggested that possibility but overall, I think you're right.

I think it was pretty telling he chose not to redshirt in 2019 despite the fact his team points weren't really needed at all and he was a pretty raw talent then that could have used it. I think he always just wanted to get his degree and bounce.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Kerk bounce as well after 2023 for similar ambitions (2024 Olympics focus then fighting)

But alb409 on 247 seems to hint that we are in a very good spot for recruiting going forward at weights of need!
 
Eireman looks stuck in my book, but as a side note, why no discussion of a danger count, he was on his back for at least 6 seconds?
 
Good point .😒 I was thinking how the matches played out against Iowa and also how Bartlett would do against Sasso. Somehow I combined the thoughts.
It's been a crazy week. Head up my arse.
Let's try this again.
How does Sasso vs Bartlett matchup play out.?
My ❤ and rooting interest hopes Bartlett by DEC. My 🧠 will tell my KYPSW selection to pick Sasso by DEC.
 
Heil rule only applies in the nuetral position. Has to be that way or they'd be counting when you are trying to tilt and cradle and don't have them at a 45%.
Minor correction, otherwise spot on.

And BTW probably the best folk rule change in my adult lifetime. Those infinite scrambles where one guy could lay on his back with one shoulder microscopically off the mat ... unwatchable.
 
Just got back from the duals. I was seated low in the stands and had a direct look at Eierman's shoulders. He was clearly pinned by normal standards. If the refs give a longer look for a defensive pin, I can't say, but it was at least 2 seconds and probably more. Tough break for NCS. Jack almost beat Eierman on points without that pin. I was very impressed with Jack. He twice finished TD's in scrambles which is not easy to do on Eierman. He's going to be a good one.
LoL you know this can be watched again right?? At least 2 seconds?? Hahahaha it was probably close to 1/2 a second.
 
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