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Here’s the facts about Michigan’s mediocrity despite hype-lipstick on a pig!!

Well, Yale, princeton, Harvard and Mount Union are in the top 20 but who cares and what does that mean anyway.
 
Didn’t someone post here a while ago how the PSU athletic programs as a whole were the best in the big ten since PSU joined (in national titles etc)? Anyone have those numbers vs Michigan?
 
I don't quite understand all the anti-Michigan bashing. I'm not going to deny BAMA was the better team today. But this should not discount the fact Michigan is still the winningest program in the history of college football. Let's not lose sight that Michigan claims 11 National Championships. Penn State is no doubt in elite company too. They are #9 in the all-time winningest college football program list. Not bad. Kudos to Penn State. with due respect, your arrogance is the cause of your ignorance. What happened to B1G pride?
Big Ten pride... Lol, that's hilarious!
 
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Being ranked 19th at the beginning of the season says hello. Being unranked by Joel Klatt because we lost McSorley says hello. Being downgraded because we had a bunch of second and third teamers go into the portal says hello. When we start next year not ranked in the top 10 because we lost Hamler and Gross Matos says hello. I’m not saying it should be that way, I’m just saying it is and it only seems to be that way for PSU.

PSU was 14th and 15th, michigan was 7th.

As I posted previously, the pre-season rankings over the past 4 years was not significantly different (I think most of us agreed with 14/15 given our losses).

in 2018, it was penn state 9, michigan 14.

in 2017, psu 6 and um 9/11.

in 2016, mich was 7th... we didn't even rate a mention (no one could argue that because VERY few here knew what that team was going to become... how great SB and McSorley would be... so kinda hard to fault the polling folks).
 
Harbs is on track to tie a record of the great Bo S. next season. 5 bowl losses in a row. OUCH.


#Michigan under Jim Harbaugh

0-5 against OSU
1-10 as an underdog
4-9 against their rivals
1-4 in bowl games

NO INDY...NO CFP

Anyway you slice it it is simply UNACCEPTABLE!!
 
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B10 Pride!! You’ve got to be kidding. The Big never wanted PSU in, and they made that clear when we went undefeated in 1994, and everyone involved voted Nebraska as national champs. Pride. Get that crap outta here.
Ditto
 
Harbs is on track to tie a record of the great Bo S. next season. 5 bowl losses in a row. OUCH.


#Michigan under Jim Harbaugh

0-5 against OSU
1-10 as an underdog
4-9 against their rivals
1-4 in bowl games

NO INDY...NO CFP

Anyway you slice it it is simply UNACCEPTABLE!!

Let’s hope he’s there forever
 
Can PSU win in Ann Arbor next year? It's been 10 years since the last victory. I feel like it's like the USA trying to win the Ryder Cup in Europe.
 
Does scUM return a lot on D. They looked pretty good against Bama at least up front as Bama had trouble running. Either they have talent or Bama was totally sleep walking.
 
They CLAIM 11 national championships. Like Pitt CLAIMS like 43. PSU should just CLAIM national championships for every undefeated season, or frankly 1 loss seasons, like these other clownshows.


Yep. 10 of their 11 (10.5 really ;)) claimed championships are from before 1948. It’s like Pitt and it’s claims of 200+ championships. IIRC, if Penn State claimed titles this way, they could have like 10-11.
 
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Harbs is on track to tie a record of the great Bo S. next season. 5 bowl losses in a row. OUCH.


#Michigan under Jim Harbaugh

0-5 against OSU
1-10 as an underdog
4-9 against their rivals
1-4 in bowl games

NO INDY...NO CFP

Anyway you slice it it is simply UNACCEPTABLE!!
Jim had a mess to clean up when he took over. Look how he's stockpiled talent over the last 5 years and it's easy to see 2020 being the year of the Wolverine. Can't wait for Jim to pay Satan back in next year's playoff after running that last TD in with only a few seconds to play yesterday. PAYBACK !!!!
 
Jim had a mess to clean up when he took over. Look how he's stockpiled talent over the last 5 years and it's easy to see 2020 being the year of the Wolverine. Can't wait for Jim to pay Satan back in next year's playoff after running that last TD in with only a few seconds to play yesterday. PAYBACK !!!!
Won’t he want to pay everybody back who has ever beaten him??? Go home!
 
What we have or don’t have isn’t part of the equation. Michigan is an automatic top 5 top 10 preseason cede.

In 16 of the last 17 seasons, Michigan has finished below their preseason AP ranking.

iu
 
Since 2000, UM has won 5 bowl games and lost 12
Harbs better start releasing the Wolve if he wants to keep his job and maybe beat OSU once every decade.
 
Let’s break last 12 yrs to 3 four yr periods

PSU 2008-11. Joepa’s last four— 3-0 PSU against UM. UM 24 losses (3-9 season too), PSU 14 losses.

PSU 2012-15. OBrien x2 and Franklin x2, half the squad, penalties meant to cripple and break us, Mauti and walk ons and loyal players— PSU 21 losses(no losing record!!), UM 21 losses. PSU 1-2 against UM with Hackenberg Whiteout win.

PSU 2016-19. PSU 2-2 against UM. PSU 11 losses, UM 15 losses.
Against Ohio St, PSU 1-3, with losses by 1,1,11 points last 3 yrs
Against Ohio State, UM 0-4, with losses by 11,23 29 points last 3 yrs

Harbaugh hype is fake- UM hype is fake— Spring Break in Rome, France, South Africa blah blah blah.

Now that the sleeping giant has woken up at PSU with Franklin, this decade will be about PSU battling OSU for Big10 supremacy
Let's just hope they're mediocre when we play there next year.
 
Harbaugh only has two years left on his deal. They should be pounded over that in recruiting. Very strange that they haven't extended him yet. You want to see the coach having 4 years on his deal, ideally.
 
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Harbaugh only has two years left on his deal. They should be pounded over that in recruiting. Very strange that they haven't extended him yet. You want to see the coach having 4 years on his deal, ideally.

They're still working out the details of that lifetime contract from a few years back.
 
They're still working out the details of that lifetime contract from a few years back.

Maybe they only expect Harbaugh to make it two more years before he perishes in some bizarre fashion, but wins a Darwin Award in the process. So maybe it really is a lifetime contract.
 
I wonder why folks write pejorative posts about other programs. Penn State has to bear the brunt of pent up angst due to these type of comments. During the last fiasco, Penn State received very little support. Why oh why we continue disparaging others.
 
I wonder why folks write pejorative posts about other programs. Penn State has to bear the brunt of pent up angst due to these type of comments. During the last fiasco, Penn State received very little support. Why oh why we continue disparaging others.

iu
 
Half a national championship in the past 70 years. Last conference title was 15 years ago. Almost a fixture at 3rd place in the B1G East. Arrogance = ignorance?? That's Michigan to a "T".

But, but, but, we're the winningest program on college football history!!!!! Why doesn't anyone else see how awesome we are?!?!?!

They are so arrogant that they are amaized with your lack of amaizement for their amaizingness.
 
Yep. 10 of their 11 (10.5 really ;)) claimed championships are from before 1948. It’s like Pitt and it’s claims of 200+ championships.
And they BOTH won National Championships in 1918!

They're still working out the details of that lifetime contract from a few years back.
Why would a guy incentivize his own fans to kill him?
 
Since 2000, UM has won 5 bowl games and lost 12
Harbs better start releasing the Wolve if he wants to keep his job and maybe beat OSU once every decade.


Awesome! Harbaugh has brought Michigan back to the glorious success in Bowl games of the one and only Bo Schembechler.

Maybe 5-12 can be printed on T-Shirts ... or made into a key chain. ;)
 
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