What percentage of your synapses are functional?Did you graduate from penn state?
Back up a minute young man. The thing that heated my ire that it is very discourteous and indecorous to call out a long standing contributing member and ask if the person is a grad or not…who cares.So you didn't and became a lunatic over a team of a bunch of kids from a school you never graduated from. Creepy.
(to others, keyword is lunatic. No issues of normal fans that didn't graduate from PSU)
Back up a minute young man. The thing that heated my ire that it is very discourteous and indecorous to call out a long standing contributing member and ask if the person is a grad or not…who cares.
Please reread my post that you quoted. I said the keyword being "lunatic", no other issues with non-PSU grad fans. Look at the way he types and responds to people. It is at a very childish level and no longer makes me question why we aren't getting anywhere with the BOT if someone like that is speaking out.
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I read your message correctly the first time Brad. Glad you separated the characteristics of non-grads, but I believe it is inappropriate to question another about his college.
That's interesting because some of our peers that also rely on home revenues as much as PSU does don't seem to be struggling with this concept, despite the move to a 9 game conference schedule. There is a clear difference between PSU's schedule and some other top programs.Unless you are willing to kick in the missing $10-15 million....... No way that can happen, not with the new 9 game B1G schedule
Hopefully, (most) people can "do the math" and realize that.....I'm not going to take the time to walk through it again
Just one more of the WONDERFUL benefits of Jim Delaney's brilliant expansion move.......which somehow was not apparent to the unwashed masses.
That's interesting because some of our peers that also rely on home revenues as much as PSU does don't seem to be struggling with this concept, despite the move to a 9 game conference schedule. There is a clear difference between PSU's schedule and some other top programs.
Take OSU for example. OSU is playing nationally recognized teams that have recent history of tremendous on field success (most are recent top 10 teams), except for Texas who has struggled lately but is still a national brand and a "move the needle" type of program. These opponents are from all over the country - South, Pacific NW, Texas and the Midwest. OSU even went as far as scheduling 2 flagship teams in the same season in 2022 & 2023.
Meanwhile, PSU is playing mid-level P5 teams and all of them are in our own region, basically in bordering states save Virginia which is so close it might as well be bordering. These are not "move the needle" programs with current top 10 performance, nor do they have a history comparable to the likes of OU, Texas, ND, etc.
Our schedule pales in comparison. As a PSU alum I'm supposed to be excited for the Pitt game. I'm not. They haven't been true "rivals" for many years, and the so-called "rivalry" was mostly one sided since the start of the JoePa era. Pitt has won 13 times since 1950, PSU has won 32 in that time (1 tie). Pitt hasn't finished consecutive seasons ranked in the AP poll since the early 80's. Nobody on a national level cares about PSU vs. Pitt. I don't even care about PSU vs. Pitt, to me it's just another game. Yet here we are with that as our "flagship" game for the next 4 years. We don't play a meaningful opponent until 2020, and even then it's a short drive from home.
Here's OSU's future schedule:
2016 - at Oklahoma
2017 - Oklahoma
2018 - at TCU
2019 - TCU
2020 - at Oregon
2021 - Oregon
2022 - Notre Dame & at Texas (!!)
2023 - Texas & at Notre Dame (!!)
Compare that to the best game on PSU's schedule each year:
2016 - at Pitt
2017 - Pitt
2018 - at Pitt
2019 - Pitt
2020 - at Virginia Tech
2021 - n/a
2022 - n/a
2023 - West Virginia
2024 - at West Virginia
2025 - Virginia Tech
That's interesting because some of our peers that also rely on home revenues as much as PSU does don't seem to be struggling with this concept, despite the move to a 9 game conference schedule. There is a clear difference between PSU's schedule and some other top programs.
Take OSU for example. OSU is playing nationally recognized teams that have recent history of tremendous on field success (most are recent top 10 teams), except for Texas who has struggled lately but is still a national brand and a "move the needle" type of program. These opponents are from all over the country - South, Pacific NW, Texas and the Midwest. OSU even went as far as scheduling 2 flagship teams in the same season in 2022 & 2023.
Meanwhile, PSU is playing mid-level P5 teams and all of them are in our own region, basically in bordering states save Virginia which is so close it might as well be bordering. These are not "move the needle" programs with current top 10 performance, nor do they have a history comparable to the likes of OU, Texas, ND, etc.
Our schedule pales in comparison. As a PSU alum I'm supposed to be excited for the Pitt game. I'm not. They haven't been true "rivals" for many years, and the so-called "rivalry" was mostly one sided since the start of the JoePa era. Pitt has won 13 times since 1950, PSU has won 32 in that time (1 tie). Pitt hasn't finished consecutive seasons ranked in the AP poll since the early 80's. Nobody on a national level cares about PSU vs. Pitt. I don't even care about PSU vs. Pitt, to me it's just another game. Yet here we are with that as our "flagship" game for the next 4 years. We don't play a meaningful opponent until 2020, and even then it's a short drive from home.
Here's OSU's future schedule:
2016 - at Oklahoma
2017 - Oklahoma
2018 - at TCU
2019 - TCU
2020 - at Oregon
2021 - Oregon
2022 - Notre Dame & at Texas (!!)
2023 - Texas & at Notre Dame (!!)
Compare that to the best game on PSU's schedule each year:
2016 - at Pitt
2017 - Pitt
2018 - at Pitt
2019 - Pitt
2020 - at Virginia Tech
2021 - n/a
2022 - n/a
2023 - West Virginia
2024 - at West Virginia
2025 - Virginia Tech
It's stupid to look at future schedules especially way out in advance because you don't know how teams will be way down the line. For example when we scheduled Syracuse they were coming off a 10 or 11 win season. When we played Syracuse they were a 4-5 win team. Just because a team is a name right now or because they are a brand doesn't mean they'll be good when you play them. ND has had down years until the last few years. Texas is still in their current downward spiral. Oregon might fall off starting this year. Same with TCU. You get my point.
Secondly, Ohio State has been a powerhouse for over a decade now let's be real about it. They can afford to schedule and play and compete with teams like this and be fine. Right now we can't. There's no point in lying about it. Will we get to that point honestly I am sure we will ... but it's not like we haven't recently scheduled teams from different areas (Oregon State, Alabama, Notre Dame) and we will again when we should
I agree with your point to an extent. If you schedule the likes of Bama, Texas, ND, OU, etc. it doesn't matter if they end up in a down year by the time the game happens, those teams still generate national interest and appeal even when they are struggling. I'd argue Texas in a down year is still more interesting than a 10+ win Syracuse team that caught lightning in a bottle for 1-2 seasons, especially nationally. So to compare our attempt to time it right with a team like Syracuse to what others are doing by playing LSU, FSU, Stanford, and so on aren't even in the same universe.It's stupid to look at future schedules especially way out in advance because you don't know how teams will be way down the line. For example when we scheduled Syracuse they were coming off a 10 or 11 win season. When we played Syracuse they were a 4-5 win team. Just because a team is a name right now or because they are a brand doesn't mean they'll be good when you play them. ND has had down years until the last few years. Texas is still in their current downward spiral. Oregon might fall off starting this year. Same with TCU. You get my point.
Wasn't there a rumor that Penn State was looking to schedule LSU sometime in the future?
I agree with your point to an extent. If you schedule the likes of Bama, Texas, ND, OU, etc. it doesn't matter if they end up in a down year by the time the game happens, those teams still generate national interest and appeal even when they are struggling. I'd argue Texas in a down year is still more interesting than a 10+ win Syracuse team that caught lightning in a bottle for 1-2 seasons, especially nationally. So to compare our attempt to time it right with a team like Syracuse to what others are doing by playing LSU, FSU, Stanford, and so on aren't even in the same universe.
The wifi can be financed by the users. Charge between $5 and $10 per user per game and separate the freeloading, whining maggots from those that TRULY NEED wifi to enjoy a college football game. Let the market determine the bandwidth requirement. If the demand is there, those demanding it can pay for it. A free, password protected wifi for narcissistic recruits is also a good suggestion.
Comparing the scheduling of Syracuse after their one big season in decades to scheduling a tradition rich national power is a very weak argument. Although Texas is in a down period, they would pack Beaver Stadium this September. Coastal Carolina, Akron, Youngstown State.... Not so much!
Why don't they do the FANS a favor and quit scheduling tomato cans each September? Georgia State? Akron? Appalachian State? Kent State? How about Buffalo, Rutgers, SDSU, ARMY and Indiana in CONSECUTIVE weeks last year? That is total $hit!Yes of course they would … because we never play them. I’m sure 99.5% of you would agree Pitt isn’t a major opponent. Yet the stadium will probably be close if not a full sellout next year anyway. So that argument is kinda weak as well.
Btw … found it interesting that you picked three schools and we play none of them this year. Heck Coastal Carolina we only played ONCE as a FAVOR … and some of you use it as the barometer of everyone we schedule
LOLSo you didn't and became a lunatic over a team of a bunch of kids from a school you never graduated from. Creepy.
(to others, keyword is lunatic. No issues of normal fans that didn't graduate from PSU)
Why don't they do the FANS a favor and quit scheduling tomato cans each September? Georgia State? Akron? Appalachian State? Kent State? How about Buffalo, Rutgers, SDSU, ARMY and Indiana in CONSECUTIVE weeks last year? That is total $hit!
LOL
Trying to ponder a way in which you could be more wrong, ignorant, and stupid............
Nope......can't do it.......sorry.
slow day so thought id start a discussion...
for me its:
improve in-stadium wifi
get rid of the bleachers and add seats
sell beer
Thank you much for the post, my thoughts exactly, but didn't want to pit the effort in typingIt's stupid to look at future schedules especially way out in advance because you don't know how teams will be way down the line. For example when we scheduled Syracuse they were coming off a 10 or 11 win season. When we played Syracuse they were a 4-5 win team. Just because a team is a name right now or because they are a brand doesn't mean they'll be good when you play them. ND has had down years until the last few years. Texas is still in their current downward spiral. Oregon might fall off starting this year. Same with TCU. You get my point.
Secondly, Ohio State has been a powerhouse for over a decade now let's be real about it. They can afford to schedule and play and compete with teams like this and be fine. Right now we can't. There's no point in lying about it. Will we get to that point honestly I am sure we will ... but it's not like we haven't recently scheduled teams from different areas (Oregon State, Alabama, Notre Dame) and we will again when we should
You old coot, I agree on most with the exception of excited PSU fans jumping up and down.Things I want at the Beaver.
No screaming children!
No infants!
No jumping up and down on each play. There are people behind you trying to watch the game.
No sh*t faced idiots trying to humiliate themselves and PSU by insulting visiting fans. Don't care who the fans are!
No standing in the aisles talking/texting to find your friends. I'm trying to watch the game.
No gabbing about shopping, boy/girl friend troubles or anything not concerning the football game.
Take your children to the bathroom during breaks in play. There is no need to go every 10-15 minutes. That goes for adults also.
More replays, don't need noise meters, etc. before play begins.
Show replays of controversial calls.
Show scores from other games on the ribbon, especially during breaks in the action.
There are some that will be in favor, some will not. Remember you are in the stadium to watch a football game, if you are there for any other reason, stay home.
Sandy are you listening!
In halter tops!!You old coot, I agree on most with the exception of excited PSU fans jumping up and down.
This is about butts in seats and generating excitement in the stands, not TV ratings. Those are 2 different things. And yes, I absolutely believe a huge number of people care about Texas nationally, despite their down years right now.Except ratings say otherwise but whatever you'd like to tell yourself. You think anyone really cared about what amounted to be the 4th or 5th best team in the state of Texas last few years?
--I'd love for the bleachers to be gone. Had back issues in my 30s (so pretty recently!) that made it difficult to sit for long stretches during the games. The STH paid-for chairbacks were pretty nice but if you're not a STH, then you're most likely not going to get one of those. Will it reduce capacity? Of course. But maybe that needs to be done.
--Audio system and how it's used in that stadium is terrible. First off, the PA guy who has been there far too long is still abysmal. He's been doing that, what 10+ years? And yet, I counted at least 3 or 4 complete errors in what he was trying to describe. The loud music is way overdone...they feel like they have to play the same, tired harrowing music when the opposition gets a 3rd down...and then they play it while they're in their huddle and even when they're at the line. Shocked that PSU hasn't been given a warning or even a penalty for that (shades of Michigan 1993?). You can still have your Zombie Nations and your other party type music but I'd prefer to have my headache after the game because the crowd was going nuts and not because some DJ was trying to blow my ears out.
--Agree with the OOC being spruced up. Kent State this year, ok, I get it...everyone in the Big Ten plays one crap team. But the next 2 years, they play a pair of crap teams each year. Replace Georgia State and Appy State with something a little bit more palatable. All you're accomplishing with playing these 2 teams is paying them to come up and get beat (more often than not). Who to replace them? Sure, it would be great to see a USC or a BYU or maybe Miami or LSU but if you want to get a little more realistic, they could attract a lower-rung SEC/ACC (scratch that, they're still playing Pitt)/Big 12/PAC 10 for a one-time game much like what they did with Oregon State in 2008. It's not even fun to watch the games on TV when they're playing these lesser-lites.
Not tossles? Qirstion, nitwit called me a "wissy fit" not sure how to interpret his message? Any ideas? I've been around construction projects a long time prior to my injuries, I've never heard the term. Now, I have called out over the years construction people in the field many namrs , but never "wissy fit". I don't want you to respond, in that I have respect for nitwit, but last week, my company asked me to supervise a commercial paving project because all of our other construction people are working.In halter tops!!
Back issues easily solved. Many chair backs around the field level of the stadium, many in the south..upper level, and the north end upper level, plus try to get the chair backs in the mezzanine level. Six years ago I moved six seats from rows AA and BB to two seats in the EE SECTION at the 44 yard line.--I'd love for the bleachers to be gone. Had back issues in my 30s (so pretty recently!) that made it difficult to sit for long stretches during the games. The STH paid-for chairbacks were pretty nice but if you're not a STH, then you're most likely not going to get one of those. Will it reduce capacity? Of course. But maybe that needs to be done.
--Audio system and how it's used in that stadium is terrible. First off, the PA guy who has been there far too long is still abysmal. He's been doing that, what 10+ years? And yet, I counted at least 3 or 4 complete errors in what he was trying to describe. The loud music is way overdone...they feel like they have to play the same, tired harrowing music when the opposition gets a 3rd down...and then they play it while they're in their huddle and even when they're at the line. Shocked that PSU hasn't been given a warning or even a penalty for that (shades of Michigan 1993?). You can still have your Zombie Nations and your other party type music but I'd prefer to have my headache after the game because the crowd was going nuts and not because some DJ was trying to blow my ears out.
--Agree with the OOC being spruced up. Kent State this year, ok, I get it...everyone in the Big Ten plays one crap team. But the next 2 years, they play a pair of crap teams each year. Replace Georgia State and Appy State with something a little bit more palatable. All you're accomplishing with playing these 2 teams is paying them to come up and get beat (more often than not). Who to replace them? Sure, it would be great to see a USC or a BYU or maybe Miami or LSU but if you want to get a little more realistic, they could attract a lower-rung SEC/ACC (scratch that, they're still playing Pitt)/Big 12/PAC 10 for a one-time game much like what they did with Oregon State in 2008. It's not even fun to watch the games on TV when they're playing these lesser-lites.
What's with the wifi obsession? Don't you people have cell phones with data plans?
Man, you nailed it regarding the P.A. announcer. He is ALL OVER the mic, practically doing play by play. It's a serious problem, because no p.a. announcer is supposed to be running commentary, it takes away from the experience at the game. Kernkraft needs to go also, Jack White needs to go, the gimmick is old and tired now.
Typically a cell phone network doesn't work well when 100k people are confined to one area. I've had AT&T and Verizon and rare to get a message sent out or a webpage to load. Know a lot of people with similar experiences.
As others have pointed out, this was a top ten stupid comment from you. And that is a high bar.What's with the wifi obsession? Don't you people have cell phones with data plans?
It's a running joke with my son and I, no matter what game we're watching if it's 3rd down we say in this exaggerated deep voice "Thiiiiirrrrd DOWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN" like the PA guy at Beaver does every single time. We could be losing 28-0 late in the 4th and it's the same shtick.
slow day so thought id start a discussion...
for me its:
improve in-stadium wifi
get rid of the bleachers and add seats
sell beer