Hypothetical: Nickal and McCutcheon swapping weight classes.
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No, Nickal is one of the special talents you build around.
Boyd. Yep, good point. Bad match up there. Mouse has beaten both Brooks and Dudley before and I also think he can take Zavatsky who beat Martin. Firmly believe that he would land in the top five. Just don't see that at 197. Maybe a low AA to Round of 12.
Either way, I don't like the phrasing of the question. You could ask me who Emory Parker couldnt beat and Cutch would not make the list. There's a handful of guys Cutch could beat and lose to. He's always been that wrestler. Think he would AA about a quarter of the time. That's not terrible at all, but not worth moving Bo.
Love your always positive input. Your support of these athletes is unprecedented.
Fair enough. Is the reason you only go 25% due to injury concern? Better yet, what % would you assign to a healthy Mouse?
Look at the votes. Next year? Ok, fine. Do it then. But Maybe you have Rasheed or Cassar at 197.
On the other hand, I would be thrilled if Vincenzo and Nolf switched weights. Just from the fan perspective alone.
Better question for November. Bo won't be making noise internationally at 86 while he's making 184.
Perhaps I'm being a little hard on Cutch. Hard to be sure of any opinion without seeing 184 results this year.
Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't Cutch failed to AA at 184 in every attempt to this point(despite being in the convo)? Many of the same guys remain. Why are people so sure he is a garuanteed AA at the weight? Plenty of depth. He has higher potential at a shallow 197 IMO.
I didn't imply Bo wouldn't be special at 197. What I mean is in a sport that has team score and individual goal components the individual (Bo) has to have input on what weight is in their best interest. If Mouse beats Bo the weights his. It's a luxury to have multiple kids at some weights. Otherwise go Bo go. You put your studs where they will have the most success and fill in around them.
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I don't see any real possibility that an established starter will be changing weights at this point. The only lineup drama left is who will start at 174 and wether Cassar is healthy and competitive enough to make a run at 197 this year.
Why is there so much talk of Rasheed getting up to 197? He was at 165 last year and 174 this season. How could he put on the kind of weight to be effective at this point?
Because we have eyes. he's like 6'2" and probably was close to 200 in the offseason. One more year in the weight room and he could be 197. He should be 184 this year.
Oh, right, eyes, I forgot about those. Mind you, if he's going up to 200ish in the offseason, he's still undersized for a 197er by comparison. He'll still need to gain a lot of functional mass.
The stuff behind the eyes is what tells us Rasheed to 197 won't happen this year.
I don't think you truly appreciate the difference between competing 23 pounds heavier and jumping 2 weight classes. This kind of leap is not only rare, it's incredibly difficult at this level when so many guys have been competing around there for years.
Of course it's hard. But Rasheed has the frame you would think can work for it. He's not a David Taylor talent, but he doesn't have to wrestle world champs either, He's basically a 184 pounder right now. And you have Cassar/Cutch as a luxury as well. Of course you can have him at 184 with Cutch next year and send Bo to 197 as well. Either way, he'll be wrestling off for a spot. At 184 or 197.
For one, I appreciate the NCAA allowing us to put a 184 pound wrestler at 174.
Me too. He just dwarfs people out there. I miss him.
How badly do you want Rasheed out of the way? Maybe he'll transfer to Rutgers. I mean, what do you expect him to do? Cut 25 pounds and backup Mark Hall? Backup Bo Nickal the rest of his career? I expect him to make a run at 197. Of course, a lot of this depends on Bo.
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I don't want him out of the way at all and I'm not sure why you even asked me this question. I didn't say a single thing about being happy if he'd leave.
I'm not sure, but Rasheed should do whatever makes him happy. If he wants to try 197, then he should go for it. But if he doesn't want to back up Hall or Nickal, then maybe he should transfer, but that's his decision to make.
Note: This isn't an indication of me being happy if he leaves, though I do accept that it may be a possibility.
True. My stab in the dark would be 75% if healthy.
Intriguing. Do they have the weight certifications for that?
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I agree with a lot of others and before the season began questioned whether Rasheed was going to be able to handle the cut to 174 this year. I think the jury is still out on that. To my eyes, he seems to be cutting too much weight again and missing a bit of his explosiveness, which could be interrelated. I, with my somewhat uninformed opinion, think he might be served better by looking at 197 as a landing place if Bo stays at 184.
It was reported on this site that Bo only certed at 184. Of course only the NCAA and PSU know for sure......yeah there may be others. He looks bigger than last year but still undersized. Same with Matt. I don't know the rules for going down a weight, but if they were going to make a run at this, they would have to make it known very soon. I have know idea what these guys weighed in this past weekend st, but if some did know that and knew the rules, then they could make that informed decision. Like Cael.
Because he looked well on his way to doing it last year because tearing his knee up. He had one truly healthy tournament and that was his RS freshman year.
