I am happy about the Cotton Bowl..

[bvillebaron]

For better or worse (and it could be either) what happens against Memphis on Jan 1 will have nada to do with the PSU/VT game 9 months later.
(Did PSU’s bed-shitting against UK affect this years PSU-Michigan game? LOL )

Fans and media dingleberries love to yap about that nonsense..... but it is nonsense none the less

Absolutely.

 

[LMTLION]

For better or worse (and it could be either) what happens against Memphis on Jan 1 will have nada to do with the PSU/VT game 9 months later.
(Did PSU’s bed-shitting against UK affect this years PSU-Michigan game? LOL )

Fans and media dingleberries love to yap about that nonsense..... but it is nonsense none the less

2020 hypothetical- PSU wins the cotton bowl, beats va tech in 2020 and has one slip up in the B1G schedule and is battling (insert sec team) for the 4th playoff spot. I think it means a lot to have recent credibility. This is a very important game.

 

[SheldonJoe2215]

You are an indiot. First of all, the game will be played in Arlington, which is halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth in North Texas. Central Texas is generally considered Waco, which is 90 minutes south of the Metroplex. The Stadium and the new Texas Live entertainment complex right across the street make for a very attractive game atmosphere/experience. Not to mention plenty to do in both Dallas and Fort Worth.

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[N&B4PSU]

I’m guessing that I’ll get a “burp” from @stormingnorm with this post.
Let’s say the team (and we know from tweets they are) is p@ssed off with their bowl placement.
Coaching staff is upset with being overlooked. They rally with the idea they will prepare and practice as well as they possibly can. Look to d@ck-slap Memphis. Have a great game and set the tone for offseason workouts and 2020 season.
Ok. Fire away, I can handle it.


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It is my lone hope. There ARE positive things that can happen, but a lot of effort will be needed and Memphis is capable of putting 40+ up there if we mail it in. I've watched that team several times and they can motor... we better come prepared or it won't be fun at all.

 

[Judge Smails]

Power five teams playing in bowl games against non-power five teams have absolutely nothing to gain

Sh#t. So our 11th win won’t count?

 

[RickinDayton]

Do not underestimate Memphis. I have watched several of their games this year. They will likely score somewhere in the high 20's or low 30's. PSU needs to be ready for a high-power offense.
I am not at all disappointed in not going to the Rose Bowl. From Kansas, attendance at the game and parade would run us well into the thousands. We can drive down to Dallas from Wichita in 5-6 hours. Already ordered our tickets and booked our hotel.

I too have watched Memohis a few times. They are a much better than average with a really fine coaching staff and talented players with speed. This is not a team to be taken lightly. They imaginative play calling on offense.

 

[Jerry]

Cotton Bowl is better than no bowl at all, yeah as a fan i felt we got screwed by the talking heads, the team has to get it together, grow up and show up. Franklin knows deep down what he has to do, right now it's about prepping for next year more than finishing this year. I used to be one of those fans wishing the Big would do well , now screw them all.

I've hated this conference since, oh, 1994 and always root for all of them, especially the Darling Duo, to lose.

That said, your "the team has to get it together, grow up and show up" is right on target. (Good advice for the fans as well, but that's another topic.)

Yes, we got jobbed out of the Rose Bowl, but the Cotton, being a NY6 match-up, ain't all that bad -- provided we win...or at least show up ready to play. There will be no excuse not to be ready to play.

Regarding the location and venue, Dallas in late December is a crapshoot weather-wise. Could be nice. Or it could suck.

But the stadium itself is indoors, so weather won't be a factor on the field, which is where they play the game.

 

[fastlax16]

2020 hypothetical- PSU wins the cotton bowl, beats va tech in 2020 and has one slip up in the B1G schedule and is battling (insert sec team) for the 4th playoff spot. I think it means a lot to have recent credibility. This is a very important game.

A win over memphis with no coach is worth no credibility.

 

[dcf4psu]

All I know is the team better get busy with preparations. The Cotton Bowl is two weeks from Saturday.

 

[N&B4PSU]

Still not certain how a game played on December 28th qualifies as NY6.

 

[We Are . . .]

Yes. They are .

Or, just take a ****ing look out your window

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Texas


And central Texas, in late December, sucks.

North Texas? . North Texas isn't Central Texas. I live in central Texas. It's a four hour drive from my house to Jerrah World. Using your own source, Wikipedia does not place Arlington in central Texas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Texas

I don't have to look out my window. It's late December but it's 73 degrees here. My doors and windows are open. It's been a beautiful day and is a beautiful evening here. Arlington on the 28th? Your guess is as good as mine - or AccuWeather's.

 

[N&B4PSU]

I imagine I will be staying in my home which is a 20 minute drive from the stadium. By the way, it is not always cold in December. We have averaged at least 65 degrees the entire week and it was 70+ today. It is Jekyll and Hyde. Plus, the stadium is guaranteed to be a comfy 72 degrees. Our beer is cold. The women are beautiful. And people are very friendly. People are moving here in droves from California. Lower taxes, much better employment prospects, cheaper cost of living. I visited SoCal last year. Spent most of my time fighting traffic. Gas was like $5/gallon and everything was expensive. But to each his own.

Well, i'm gonna hafta admit that I did not know it was played at ATT stadium and will be indoors... I view that as a positive (that I did NOT know that indicates I have not watched this bowl in the past decade or so... which is probably a negative).

Face it, while D-Ft Worth have plenty to offer, the weather typically is not one of those attractions.... but we get a couple weeks of prep time, we play indoors, and we play a very good team.

Should we be playing elsewhere? imo, yes, but the horrific call in minny (that affected us because we did not come to play and left it in the referines hands) and the turd we laid vs rutgers have as much to do with this result as anything.

It sux. But it's the hand we've been dealt and we'll get to find out if the players AND fans can deal with it and make lemonade outta lemons. Gonna be a challenge for all of us... no doubt, the coaches, too.

My largest concern is recruiting. Kids DO care about this stuff.

 

[83wuzme]

I too have watched Memohis a few times. They are a much better than average with a really fine coaching staff and talented players with speed. This is not a team to be taken lightly. They imaginative play calling on offense.

Yeah, that’s all true, but the pundits will give PSU zero credit for winning this game.
We have almost nothing to gain from this matchup other than the extra practices.

 

[TheBumble]

People bashed the Pitt series for a number of valid reasons none of which involved “fear of losing”. I have cited many of them here in the past troll.

I guess I should have rephrased it to be the fear of the embarrassment of losing. If they lost to Oregon we'd be upset and disappointed. But if they lose to Memphis or the game is even close... it's embarrassing and a shot to all of our "blue blood" egos. There were plenty of people that didn't want us playing Pitt for that reason. You can deny it but it was plenty obvious.

 

[AWS1022]

Very few eyeballs will be on this game. And any effort will be forgotten in the hype of the others. This is what happens when you lose games you should win.

Well, it’s a damn good thing Oklahoma should have lost to K State....that’s obviously why they’re in the playoffs.

 

[AWS1022]

I don’t think so. I think the angst started with Klatt lobbying for Wisky last night.....with his selective memory.....apparently followed by Herbstreit today. A 10-2 season and you’re relegated to Arlington, Texas on December 28 to play a non P5 team. (All while Wisky, Minny, and Michigan got much better matchups with Oregon, Auburn, and Alabama).

Memphis is having their best year ever (IIRC) and is a very talented team, but they aren’t a name team you look forward to playing in bowl season. They certainly could beat PSU, especially if Penn St shows the same lack of effort as against Kentucky last year, but I don’t think that’s why people are frustrated.

The lobbying started last week before the CCG was even played. Herby started the “don’t penalize them for playing an extra game” BS long before the game was played and the radio guys on ESPNU radio picked it up. That’s what pissed me off....they didn’t do that for any other team.

 

[nits74]

My advice to any of the guys declaring for the NFL is to sit this one out. Just not worth the risk for this garbage.

 

[lein]

2020 hypothetical- PSU wins the cotton bowl, beats va tech in 2020 and has one slip up in the B1G schedule and is battling (insert sec team) for the 4th playoff spot. I think it means a lot to have recent credibility. This is a very important game.

the Cotton Bowl has nothing to do with the 2020 season

Michigan lost to Florida last year, it meant nothing the following season

 

[blion72]

I too have watched Memohis a few times. They are a much better than average with a really fine coaching staff and talented players with speed. This is not a team to be taken lightly. They imaginative play calling on offense.

I saw them play a couple games including Temple. their conference is not that much worse than ACC. any of these teams from that league can cause trouble. the MAC. AAC, SBC, etc all have some teams that are the equal of mid-level P5 teams. to win you have to prepare and be ready to play 100%.

 

[JJTopp99]

for a number of reasons.

1) I really don’t give a damn about the Rose Bowl at all. Most years it is not a better bowl than the Cotton, because the Big and PAC representatives, especially in the CFP era, are never clearly better than the teams in the rest of the country. Its “prestige” is a product of hype.

2) Because we are obsessive fans of Penn State we overestimate the value of beating a “name” team over just winning a bowl game. Recruits are going to see we won 11 games. That will keep the recruiting progress going which will, in turn, keep us closer to closing the gap on the top 4 or 5 programs. We have a better chance to beat Memphis than Oregon. All that matters is the 11 wins. What recruit knows who we played two years ago in a bowl?

3) Playing against a new opponent is cool.

4) We haven’t played in the Cotton Bowl since the 1970s. I am going to go get a cool new T-Shirt.

5) **** the Big. Hope Wiscy gets motorboated by Oregon and O$U humiliated by Clemson. All I care about is We Are.

AKA "putting lipstick on a pig". Well, OK..could be worse I guess. So, now my glass is half full...kinda, sorta. Meanwhile, Iowa is going to San Diego to play USC...can't help but feel envious.

 

[JJTopp99]

I'd rather spend my 5-6 hours in Wichita watching reruns of Gunsmoke than going to that game.

Split my gut laughing...

 

[Jerry]

The lobbying started last week before the CCG was even played. Herby started the “don’t penalize them for playing an extra game” BS long before the game was played and the radio guys on ESPNU radio picked it up. That’s what pissed me off....they didn’t do that for any other team.

I don't get why people are shocked by this. Pissed, sure, and rightfully so. But surprised? I mean, it was telegraphed all week long, not least by Rob Mullens himself on Tuesday night when he parroted Herbie's BS talking points from the previous weekend. It became clear then that Ohio State would have to blow Wisconsin away for Penn State to get the Rose Bowl bid.

The other thing I don't get is why the rightful anger about being jobbed for the Rose Bowl melts into a scornful and defeatist attitude about the Cotton, which is, after all, a NY6 match-up that everyone would have been glad to take back in August when nobody predicted 10 wins. I sure hope the attitude of the team is different from that of a lot of fans, or what should be the crowning achievement of the season could instead turn into a major embarrassment.

 

[JJTopp99]

A winter “vacation” in central Texas.

I’m guessing there might be a worse location for a Bowl Game...... Detroit comes to mind..... but it’s got to be in the running for one of the worst.

...or El Paso. Hey, what's up with this Bahamas Bowl in Nassau...that something new?

 

[JJTopp99]

This will be a good steppingstone game for next season. Remember, we have a good shot at a playoff run next year. A victory against a good Memphis team building momentum for opening the season against a good OOC slate including Virginia Tech will do wonders for a program that overperformed for record in 2019 but had obvious weaknesses as well.

Next year's schedule: https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2020/team/penn-state

 

[83wuzme]

I don't get why people are shocked by this. Pissed, sure, and rightfully so. But surprised? I mean, it was telegraphed all week long, not least by Rob Mullens himself on Tuesday night when he parroted Herbie's BS talking points from the previous weekend. It became clear then that Ohio State would have to blow Wisconsin away for Penn State to get the Rose Bowl bid.

The other thing I don't get is why the rightful anger about being jobbed for the Rose Bowl melts into a scornful and defeatist attitude about the Cotton, which is, after all, a NY6 match-up that everyone would have been glad to take back in August when nobody predicted 10 wins. I sure hope the attitude of the team is different from that of a lot of fans, or what should be the crowning achievement of the season could instead turn into a major embarrassment.

Again, when did December 28 become New Years ?
The Cotton Bowl hasn’t meant anything since the 70’s.
I would rather see us in the Outback or Citrus.

 

[N&B4PSU]

I guess I should have rephrased it to be the fear of the embarrassment of losing. If they lost to Oregon we'd be upset and disappointed. But if they lose to Memphis or the game is even close... it's embarrassing and a shot to all of our "blue blood" egos. There were plenty of people that didn't want us playing Pitt for that reason. You can deny it but it was plenty obvious.

Agree on memphis, disagree on pitt.

i knew pitt would not be a blowout but i never feared whether we'd win or lose.

memphis is a serious piece of business and we better be ready.

 

[MacNit07]

I don't get why people are shocked by this. Pissed, sure, and rightfully so. But surprised? I mean, it was telegraphed all week long, not least by Rob Mullens himself on Tuesday night when he parroted Herbie's BS talking points from the previous weekend. It became clear then that Ohio State would have to blow Wisconsin away for Penn State to get the Rose Bowl bid.

The other thing I don't get is why the rightful anger about being jobbed for the Rose Bowl melts into a scornful and defeatist attitude about the Cotton, which is, after all, a NY6 match-up that everyone would have been glad to take back in August when nobody predicted 10 wins. I sure hope the attitude of the team is different from that of a lot of fans, or what should be the crowning achievement of the season could instead turn into a major embarrassment.

If someone would have stated after the Whiteout win we were headed to a bowl game against Memphis, most of us would have wondered if Memphis is even D-1! - let alone look at it as a reward!

 

[MacNit07]

I don’t think so. I think the angst started with Klatt lobbying for Wisky last night.....with his selective memory.....apparently followed by Herbstreit today. A 10-2 season and you’re relegated to Arlington, Texas on December 28 to play a non P5 team. (All while Wisky, Minny, and Michigan got much better matchups with Oregon, Auburn, and Alabama).

Memphis is having their best year ever (IIRC) and is a very talented team, but they aren’t a name team you look forward to playing in bowl season. They certainly could beat PSU, especially if Penn St shows the same lack of effort as against Kentucky last year, but I don’t think that’s why people are frustrated.

Heck, Iowa has a better match up and location too!

 

[MacNit07]

I too have watched Memohis a few times. They are a much better than average with a really fine coaching staff and talented players with speed. This is not a team to be taken lightly. They imaginative play calling on offense.

How’d they look against Temple?

 

[MacNit07]

I don't get why people are shocked by this. Pissed, sure, and rightfully so. But surprised? I mean, it was telegraphed all week long, not least by Rob Mullens himself on Tuesday night when he parroted Herbie's BS talking points from the previous weekend. It became clear then that Ohio State would have to blow Wisconsin away for Penn State to get the Rose Bowl bid.

The other thing I don't get is why the rightful anger about being jobbed for the Rose Bowl melts into a scornful and defeatist attitude about the Cotton, which is, after all, a NY6 match-up that everyone would have been glad to take back in August when nobody predicted 10 wins. I sure hope the attitude of the team is different from that of a lot of fans, or what should be the crowning achievement of the season could instead turn into a major embarrassment.

But we earned a better shake. Why does PSU have to settle? That is a defeatist attitude developed by playing in the F’d up Big10.

 

[N&B4PSU]

But we earned a better shake. Why does PSU have to settle? That is a deafest attitude developed by playing in the F’d up Big10.

Agree.

And again, how in the hell is a game played on December 28th considered a NY6 game? What marketing genius forgot the NY part of it is January 1, 2020? THAT is when the big boys square off and the (not working) world flips channels tuning into the game that is most intriguing (or of partisan interest). [The big boy CFP games are later in the day, so most fans will be handling their weekend chores early so they can watch the real games. IMO, of course. Maybe fans will stay glued to their sets from noon onward... we'll see ]

December 28th? NY6?

Get serious.

We got jobbed in minnesota... it played itself out and instead of Pasadena and a game people not connected to either school would love to see, we're playing memphis. Nothing against them because they are quite talented, fast, and imaginative on offense. But it's a P5 team and the only people watching (and not fans of Penn State) will be rooting their asses off hoping to see the upset. It will be wisky vs central/western/eastern michigan (?) all over again and you can bet the B1G muckity mucks will be squealing like pigs in slop hoping we go down.

We deserved better than a bogus call at the 2 yard line of the gophers... but this is what happens when you aren't prepared from the gun to get it done... you put yourself in a position to let someone else beat you. Hopefully, lesson(s) learned.

Now, I've got a couple weeks to get excited about this game and the chance to see the kids remove the stain of a sad rutgers effort (on our part, not rtgrs) and finish strong and poised for 2020. [Note: after the long gauntlet culminating with a grinding, tough loss to osu, i suspect neither the kids nor coaches had much left in the emotional tank for that last game, and it showed. Let's see what they've got on the 28th!]

 

[sgw107]

I’m guessing that I’ll get a “burp” from @stormingnorm with this post.
Let’s say the team (and we know from tweets they are) is p@ssed off with their bowl placement.
Coaching staff is upset with being overlooked. They rally with the idea they will prepare and practice as well as they possibly can. Look to d@ck-slap Memphis. Have a great game and set the tone for offseason workouts and 2020 season.
Ok. Fire away, I can handle it.


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Stop making sense. Also, I think it was menet or freiermuth that said there were a few players on the O-Line last year that lost interest when things didn't go their way. In general i think the team is more focused this year. We'll see. Memphis is 12-1. They don't sound like push overs. Everyone is saying the team is more tight knit than last year and everyone "loves playing for each other" That doesn't sound like a team that will not be up for the bowl. Also, Clifford seems super competitive and seems like he would want to win no matter the circumstance. Lastly, 11 wins 3 of 4 years sounds better than 10 wins. It also affects bowl record and record against ranked opponents which are stats people trot out all the time. In a couple years, it'll start to fade and people won't remember it was against memphis, who I repeat is currently 12-1. (yes i know against weaker competition) "Every little thing matters" when trying to impress recruits.

 

[psute]

You guys got hosed. We ended up with Texas in the Alamo on New Years Eve. Prime recruiting area for us to boot. I'll take that all day everyday over Memphis in the Cotton...

 

[MacNit07]

You guys got hosed. We ended up with Texas in the Alamo on New Years Eve. Prime recruiting area for us to boot. I'll take that all day everyday over Memphis in the Cotton...

Even the other schools are laughing at us...I bet Utah is smart enough to stay clear of the Big10 and their Vince McMahon commissioner and WWF officiating!

 

[MacNit07]

Agree.

And again, how in the hell is a game played on December considered a NY6 game? What marketing genius forgot the NY part of it is January 1, 2020. THAT is when the big boys square off and the (not working) world flips channels tuning into the game that is most intriguing (or of partisan interest).

December 28th? NY6?

Get serious.

We got jobbed in minnesota... it played itself out and instead of Pasadena and a game people not connected to either school would love to see, we're playing memphis. Nothing against them because they are quite talented, fast, and imaginative on offense. But it's a P5 team and the only people watching (and not fans of Penn State) will be rooting their asses off hoping to see the upset. It will be wisky vs central michigan (is that the right one?) all over again and you can bet the B1G muckity mucks will be squealing like pigs in slop hoping we go down.

We deserved better than a bogus call at the 2 yard line of the gophers... but this is what happens when you aren't prepared from the gun to get it done... you put yourself in a position to let someone else beat you. Hopefully, lesson(s) learned.

It is tough to win every game - especially when the Conference is aligned against you. Every team has a let down. But not every team is in the crosshairs to get screwed BY THEIR OWN CONFERENCE!

 

[Judge Smails]

You guys got hosed. We ended up with Texas in the Alamo on New Years Eve. Prime recruiting area for us to boot. I'll take that all day everyday over Memphis in the Cotton...

No one is watching football on New Year’s Eve. Especially Utah football.

 

[AWS1022]

AKA "putting lipstick on a pig". Well, OK..could be worse I guess. So, now my glass is half full...kinda, sorta. Meanwhile, Iowa is going to San Diego to play USC...can't help but feel envious.

If we were going to that bowl this board would be in waaaayyyy more of a meltdown.

 

[AWS1022]

Again, when did December 28 become New Years ?
The Cotton Bowl hasn’t meant anything since the 70’s.
I would rather see us in the Outback or Citrus.

Outback and Citrus are not NY6 bowls and people on here would lose their minds even more so if we were in one of those.

 

[VaLion'92]

Very few eyeballs will be on this game. And any effort will be forgotten in the hype of the others. This is what happens when you lose games you should win.

I don't get it. People act as if we lost to Purdue or Illinois.

We lost to an 8-0 Minnesota team, on the road, by 5 points, with no help from the officiating. Was it our best game? No, but why can't anyone give Minnesota credit for playing lights out in their *first* of a few tough opponents?

And we lost to OSU by 11 points, another road game, with a backup QB in the second half.

Those are our two losses. I believe we won all the games we were supposed to, no??

 

[YorkLion]

Agree.

And again, how in the hell is a game played on December considered a NY6 game? What marketing genius forgot the NY part of it is January 1, 2020. THAT is when the big boys square off and the (not working) world flips channels tuning into the game that is most intriguing (or of partisan interest).

December 28th? NY6?

Get serious.

We got jobbed in minnesota... it played itself out and instead of Pasadena and a game people not connected to either school would love to see, we're playing memphis. Nothing against them because they are quite talented, fast, and imaginative on offense. But it's a P5 team and the only people watching (and not fans of Penn State) will be rooting their asses off hoping to see the upset. It will be wisky vs central michigan (is that the right one?) all over again and you can bet the B1G muckity mucks will be squealing like pigs in slop hoping we go down.

We deserved better than a bogus call at the 2 yard line of the gophers... but this is what happens when you aren't prepared from the gun to get it done... you put yourself in a position to let someone else beat you. Hopefully, lesson(s) learned.

Agree, almost 100%. I'm not upset we're not going to the Rose Bowl but when I see Michigan playing Alabama and Minnesota playing Auburn in their respective Bowls, it really pi$$es me off. I don't care what the name or pedigree of the Bowl is, I want to play the best team available.