Interesting interview with Brenneman and Hackenberg

[Obliviax]

It is over an hour long, linked below. Here is a teaser tweet that Brenneman put out. Basically, AB and CH were two top recruits and BO'B called them into the office, closed the door, and let them know what was going on with the JS scandal. The two decided to stay which dragged in a lot of recuits and convinced players to stay. They feel like that meeting was key in PSU recovering from the JS years and platforming today's team. I have to agree. Those two years were absolutely key. The fans kept coming, the team righted itself and won games. That bridged PSU over to the CJF hire and eventually Saquon, etc.

 

[bvillebaron]

It is over an hour long, linked below. Here is a teaser tweet that Brenneman put out. Basically, AB and CH were two top recruits and BO'B called them into the office, closed the door, and let them know what was going on with the JS scandal. The two decided to stay which dragged in a lot of recuits and convinced players to stay. They feel like that meeting was key in PSU recovering from the JS years and platforming today's team. I have to agree. Those two years were absolutely key. The fans kept coming, the team righted itself and won games. That bridged PSU over to the CJF hire and eventually Saquon, etc.

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Interesting. I recall reading somewhere that O'Brien wanted to impose a deadline for players to declare if they were leaving or staying and the two Michaels, Mauti and Zordich, talked him out of it saying that would be counter-productive.

 

[Psugo823]

I still recall the time Hackenberg under threw a wide open Brenneman on a screen pass, only to learn it was actually Jesse James he underthrew because Brenneman was playing for UMass.

I have no idea why 2 guys who never finished up at Penn State are continually repping them.

Mike Maudi and Mike Zordich? They FINISHED so they have the right...these 2 don't.

 

[voltz99]

So Brenneman is patting himself on the back 10 years after the fact. Whatever.


Mauti, Zordich, and Co were the key.

 

[Psugo823]

So Brenneman is patting himself on the back 10 years after the fact. Whatever.


Mauti, Zordich, and Co were the key.

The first time in history that I agree with you. Amazing.

 

[bvillebaron]

I still recall the time Hackenberg under threw a wide open Brenneman on a screen pass, only to learn it was actually Jesse James he underthrew because Brenneman was playing for UMass.

I have no idea why 2 guys who never finished up at Penn State are continually repping them.

Mike Maudi and Mike Zordich? They FINISHED so they have the right...these 2 don't.

Not quite sure what you mean about Hackenberg allegedly never "finishing up" his career at Penn State.

 

[Obliviax]

Not quite sure what you mean about Hackenberg allegedly never "finishing up" his career at Penn State.

yeah...and IIRC, Brenneman had so many injuries he got buried in the depth chart and xfered out to try and get playing time. He was a very highly rated five start kid coming out of HS. I don't think he really wanted to play for UMass but wanted to play and that was one of his few options. UMass isn't exactly Alabama.

 

[Psugo823]

Not quite sure what you mean about Hackenberg allegedly never "finishing up" his career at Penn State.

He left early. Actually that turned out to be the saving grace for the team. While he was here he could not read a defense, throw a bubble screen or a flare or a check down or a screen pass worth 2 $hits. He also was a statue and a problem in the locker room along with the other members of "tha Supa six" premadonnas who were a straight cancer on Franklin's first 2 years.

 

[Psugo823]

yeah...and IIRC, Brenneman had so many injuries he got buried in the depth chart and xfered out to try and get playing time. He was a very highly rated five start kid coming out of HS. I don't think he really wanted to play for UMass but wanted to play and that was one of his few options. UMass isn't exactly Alabama.

His other option was to stay at Penn State and he didn't. He needs to keep the name Penn State out his mouth.

 

[voltz99]

I still recall the time Hackenberg under threw a wide open Brenneman on a screen pass, only to learn it was actually Jesse James he underthrew because Brenneman was playing for UMass.

I have no idea why 2 guys who never finished up at Penn State are continually repping them.

Mike Maudi and Mike Zordich? They FINISHED so they have the right...these 2 don't.

Hack was in the NFL by the time Brenneman went to Umass

 

[voltz99]

Not quite sure what you mean about Hackenberg allegedly never "finishing up" his career at Penn State.

Hack was with PSU his whole career. He is all PSU. I have no problem with him leaving early.

 

[voltz99]

Didn't Brenneman already do an "I saved PSU" interview?

 

[Obliviax]

His other option was to stay at Penn State and he didn't. He needs to keep the name Penn State out his mouth.

I think you undervalue a lot of stuff. most of the kids that go to PSU to play football do so with the notion that it will be a stepping stone to the NFL. AB's path was blocked so he left. That game is played for kids coming in (Chop, Cephas, McClian) as it is for kids that xfer out (Brenneman, Levis).

You go to college to prepare you to have a career and make money. PSU is just one of dozens of channels to fame and fortune. PSU had their shot and for whatever reason, blew it. Specific to Brenneman, I don't think the team missed him after his several injuries.

 

[Psugo823]

I think you undervalue a lot of stuff. most of the kids that go to PSU to play football do so with the notion that it will be a stepping stone to the NFL. AB's path was blocked so he left. That game is played for kids coming in (Chop, Cephas, McClian) as it is for kids that xfer out (Brenneman, Levis).

You go to college to prepare you to have a career and make money. PSU is just one of dozens of channels to fame and fortune. PSU had their shot and for whatever reason, blew it. Specific to Brenneman, I don't think the team missed him after his several injuries.

It was his decision, nobody else...stop acting as if it wasn't.

 

[Obliviax]

It was his decision, nobody else...stop acting as if it wasn't.

Yes, and no.

It was not his decision to get hurt and sink in the depth chart. It was his decision to leave. I am willing to bet he is OK with that.

I mean, if I am a Jr at PSU and land a scholarship to Harvard, Princeton or Oxford, I be gone so fast I'd probably not have time to pack my bags so I could get out before someone changed their minds. It doesn't mean I don't love PSU.

In fact, i didn't go to PSU. I couldn't afford it. I had a brother and some very good friends that went to PSU and have been a lifelong fan. But I had to make a business decision to go someplace else. Trust me, I don't often read the google machine to see what my NAIA school did in sports but I do PSU every day.

 

[voltz99]

I think you undervalue a lot of stuff. most of the kids that go to PSU to play football do so with the notion that it will be a stepping stone to the NFL. AB's path was blocked so he left. That game is played for kids coming in (Chop, Cephas, McClian) as it is for kids that xfer out (Brenneman, Levis).

You go to college to prepare you to have a career and make money. PSU is just one of dozens of channels to fame and fortune. PSU had their shot and for whatever reason, blew it. Specific to Brenneman, I don't think the team missed him after his several injuries.

How did PSU blow it in regards to Brenneman? He was HURT. If he stayed and got healthy he would have played. Did he play in the NFL after UMASS?

 

[voltz99]

Yes, and no.

It was not his decision to get hurt and sink in the depth chart. It was his decision to leave. I am willing to bet he is OK with that.

I mean, if I am a Jr at PSU and land a scholarship to Harvard, Princeton or Oxford, I be gone so fast I'd probably not have time to pack my bags so I could get out before someone changed their minds. It doesn't mean I don't love PSU.

In fact, i didn't go to PSU. I couldn't afford it. I had a brother and some very good friends that went to PSU and have been a lifelong fan. But I had to make a business decision to go someplace else. Trust me, I don't often read the google machine to see what my NAIA school did in sports but I do PSU every day.

Where should Brenneman have been on the depth chart when he was HURT?

 

[Obliviax]

Where should Brenneman have been on the depth chart when he was HURT?

IDK. What I do know is that he looked at all of his options and chose to come to PSU when he had dozens of offers. It didn't work out so he got playing time someplace else. I don't have a problem with that.

 

[voltz99]

IDK. What I do know is that he looked at all of his options and chose to come to PSU when he had dozens of offers. It didn't work out so he got playing time someplace else. I don't have a problem with that.

How did PSU blow it? Should they have made Brenneman the starter even though he was hurt?

 

[Obliviax]

How did PSU blow it? Should they have made Brenneman the starter even though he was hurt?

it was a general comment, not specific to AB but to any player that leaves for more playing time.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Brenneman got injured, gave up football (after being told that he shouldn't be playing anymore), got his degree, and moved on to the real world. Then, he left his job and decided to give it one last shot at UMass after getting away from the grind for a while and letting his body heal (at least to the extent that his body could heal).

Trying to criticize Adam or consider him to be less of a Penn Stater is asshatery of the highest order.

 

[DandyDonII]

Not sure how anyone can blame them for leaving at the time they did. Wasn't a big fan of Hack badmouthing staff when he left, but I understand why he left.

 

[mfb5053]

Brenneman got injured, gave up football (after being told that he shouldn't be playing anymore), got his degree, and moved on to the real world. Then, he left his job and decided to give it one last shot at UMass after getting away from the grind for a while and letting his body heal (at least to the extent that his body could heal).

Trying to criticize Adam or consider him to be less of a Penn Stater is asshatery of the highest order.

Was going to say….didn’t he essentially retire to get into politics? I thought he helped run an election campaign at the state or local level in PA? Then decided he felt healthy enough to give it another go? Dude is good in my book.

 

[NewEra 2014]

Was going to say….didn’t he essentially retire to get into politics? I thought he helped run an election campaign at the state or local level in PA? Then decided he felt healthy enough to give it another go? Dude is good in my book.

He was TE coach at Arizona State when Herm Edwards pulled his recruiting shenanigans. IIRC AB got caught up in the "scandal" and got let go from ASU.

 

[mfb5053]

He was TE coach at Arizona State when Herm Edwards pulled his recruiting shenanigans. IIRC AB got caught up in the "scandal" and got let go from ASU.

Yea that was after he played at UMASS.

 

[bvillebaron]

His other option was to stay at Penn State and he didn't. He needs to keep the name Penn State out his mouth.

Sorry but Hackenberg was a critical piece to the recovery of PSU football from the sanctions years both ON the field and from an image/recruiting perspective. I agree that he had issues with some of the throws you mentioned but he stayed when he could have gone anywhere. He also was and remains a great supporter of PSU football. Your claim that he needs to keep the name Penn State out of his mouth is the most asinine thing I have seen posted here on all the years I have followed this board (and that covers a lot of ground).

 

[PSUcup1]

Brenneman got injured, gave up football (after being told that he shouldn't be playing anymore), got his degree, and moved on to the real world. Then, he left his job and decided to give it one last shot at UMass after getting away from the grind for a while and letting his body heal (at least to the extent that his body could heal).

Trying to criticize Adam or consider him to be less of a Penn Stater is asshatery of the highest order.

This ^^^

He was basically told by psu medical people his career was over.

 

[Wallace Breen]

He left early. Actually that turned out to be the saving grace for the team. While he was here he could not read a defense, throw a bubble screen or a flare or a check down or a screen pass worth 2 $hits. He also was a statue and a problem in the locker room along with the other members of "tha Supa six" premadonnas who were a straight cancer on Franklin's first 2 years.

Hack leaving early cost us a playoff spot. If he were here in 2016, we beat Pitt, play a close game against Michigan at a minimum and cruise from there. By the end of the season the offense looks like 2019 LSU which is the offense JoeMo wanted to run before Franklin drove Hack off the roster. We were worst the day this happened. Franklin was the cancer. He targeted them the day he took over.

 

[Wallace Breen]

Sorry but Hackenberg was a critical piece to the recovery of PSU football from the sanctions years both ON the field and from an image/recruiting perspective. I agree that he had issues with some of the throws you mentioned but he stayed when he could have gone anywhere. He also was and remains a great supporter of PSU football. Your claim that he needs to keep the name Penn State out of his mouth is the most asinine thing I have seen posted here on all the years I have followed this board (and that covers a lot of ground).

Hack was the offense in 14 and 15. If Franklin had succeeded in running him off the roster in 2014, there is no 2016/17 run because we win a total of 4 to 6 games in his first two seasons and he and his staff are fired. Franklin's doesn't get the mulligan that brought in JoeMo after Sandy shook up the offense and he is an analyst for life.

 

[voltz99]

Hack leaving early cost us a playoff spot. If he were here in 2016, we beat Pitt, play a close game against Michigan at a minimum and cruise from there. By the end of the season the offense looks like 2019 LSU which is the offense JoeMo wanted to run before Franklin drove Hack off the roster. We were worst the day this happened. Franklin was the cancer. He targeted them the day he took over.

Hack was not leading anyone to the playoffs. He was a 7 win QB.


He could not even beat UCF, Indiana, Minnesota or Nebraska and that was with St. Bill OB as his coach.

 

[AWS1022]

Hack leaving early cost us a playoff spot. If he were here in 2016, we beat Pitt, play a close game against Michigan at a minimum and cruise from there. By the end of the season the offense looks like 2019 LSU which is the offense JoeMo wanted to run before Franklin drove Hack off the roster. We were worst the day this happened. Franklin was the cancer. He targeted them the day he took over.

No way you believe this….if you do, then you’re not very smart.

 

[AWS1022]

Hack was the offense in 14 and 15. If Franklin had succeeded in running him off the roster in 2014, there is no 2016/17 run because we win a total of 4 to 6 games in his first two seasons and he and his staff are fired. Franklin's doesn't get the mulligan that brought in JoeMo after Sandy shook up the offense and he is an analyst for life.

Everything you post in this paragraph is just 100% wrong….congrats, most people don’t get every sentence wrong.

 

[voltz99]

If Hack left PSU would have been fine. It would have just got McSorley on the field a year sooner. We would have beat Georgia in the bowl if McSorley started that game.


PS. If Hack transfers he does not start at most schools and does not get drafted.

 

[Wallace Breen]

Everything you post in this paragraph is just 100% wrong….congrats, most people don’t get every sentence wrong.

You are bigger clown than I thought. Clueless really.

 

[Wallace Breen]

Hack was not leading anyone to the playoffs. He was a 7 win QB.


He could not even beat UCF, Indiana, Minnesota or Nebraska and that was with St. Bill OB as his coach.

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Except for the fact he had to deal with the worst offensive coaching in NCAA history in 14 and 15. Yes, it is a fact. Deal with it. We get to the playoffs and may win a title if Hack is the QB, but, Trace loses three games for us because that is what he does. Loses games against good teams.

 

[Wallace Breen]

If Hack left PSU would have been fine. It would have just got McSorley on the field a year sooner. We would have beat Georgia in the bowl if McSorley started that game.


PS. If Hack transfers he does not start at most schools and does not get drafted.

In case you missed it, a game that was close (entirely because of Hack) went off the rails after he left in uncompetitive fashion. UGA goes ultra prevent, we get close agianst super soft D then they clamped down and Trace LOST the game for us, just like he blew the game against Pitt, Michigan and USC in 2016 and OSU and MSU in 2017. Facts. Deal with them.

 

[AWS1022]

You are bigger clown than I thought. Clueless really.

I’m not the one posting absolute ridiculous crap….that’s all you, Skippy.

 

[voltz99]

Except for the fact he had to deal with the worst offensive coaching in NCAA history in 14 and 15. Yes, it is a fact. Deal with it. We get to the playoffs and may win a title if Hack is the QB, but, Trace loses three games for us because that is what he does. Loses games against good teams.

Lost to UCF, Indiana, Minnesota and Nebraska with O'Brien! Hack was ranked at the bottom of the big in passing before Franklin got here. 7 win QB.

Hack should have transferred. PSU would have been fine. Mcsorley would have got on the field sooner.

 

[bvillebaron]

Except for the fact he had to deal with the worst offensive coaching in NCAA history in 14 and 15. Yes, it is a fact. Deal with it. We get to the playoffs and may win a title if Hack is the QB, but, Trace loses three games for us because that is what he does. Loses games against good teams.

How are things on whatever planet you are living on. I don’t think Brady could have led Penn State to the playoffs in 2014 and 2015 with the decimated roster those years due to the sanctions. I bet you think the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are real too

 

[Wallace Breen]

Lost to UCF, Indiana, Minnesota and Nebraska with O'Brien! Hack was ranked at the bottom of the big in passing before Franklin got here. 7 win QB.

Hack should have transferred. PSU would have been fine. Mcsorley would have got on the field sooner.

What is your point? He was a true freshmen running a true pro-style offense with a defense in a transition year. Funny how Franklin's groupies like to point out the losses while he was getting his feet under him but never where he was at the end of the season when he was the best pro-style QB in the country. You are right, Hack should have transferred. Franklin had it in for him from the get go. We would have had had 2 or 3 win seasons but Donovan and Rahne's gross incompetence wounld't have ruined his career before it started.