Yeah, because professional money was behind the Baylor basketball murder, Andrew Long, and the countless college athletes involved in robberies and assaulting women.
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Cael is the old bull already down there. To be decided is which bull will run down there to let Cael know he is also a bull.
The smart bull will walk down there.
Fans of other teams can't understand how we do so much with 9.9. But, we continue to do it. The allure of winning a national championship, wrestling for these coaches, etc., reduces the amount of scholarship needed by the athlete to be given. Whereas, they sometimes have to offer full rides.
NIL money will be no different. Of course, those same fans will go on to say that we are coming up with millions of dollars of NIL money for our wrestling team. The reality will be that we don't have to come up with as much.
I wonder why Spencer Lee has always remained so tight lipped on how many hundreds of thousands of dollars he was offered by PSU. That’s a lot of loyalty to a program he was never a part of, don’t you think?
I'm still upset OPP @ psu Altoona couldn't make it happen.
If it wasn't for his NIL deal, AJ Ferrari would have been quietly studying in the library that fateful afternoon.
Lol. I’m actually at PSU Altoona campus right now. Think I’ll raise some hell. Ha
Yeah…didn’t get that one. I was a kid once… I know I never did anything bad with any extra money in my pocket. Having keggers, strippers and wild parties? Naw… my extra dough went into the collection plate at church.
I am curious to see the dynamic changes when teams have rosters of some kids getting bigger NIL deals than the head coach's salary. Should make for some interesting times.
The NCAA won’t care especially when it comes to a sport like wrestling. Their resources investigating this stuff will go towards sports like football and basketball. Think they will take a hands off approach. And because of it, I expect more smaller programs that lose money on the sport to just completely fold altogether.
How about when kids already on a roster start becoming pissed when they find out their team is bringing in a kid out of the portal and paying him a lot more.
I wouldn't be surprised if the compliance complaint originated from a SOCON or MAC school. They've got some time on their hands until their RTC rule proposal is heard. 😉
If I’m a coach and someone is calling my AAs to jump in the portal, I’m definitely doing something.
I think that he means the intention of NIL is to allow the kids to get a cut when someone is making money off of them as college athletes, not to have a pile of cash to hand to kids to get them to transfer to a school. If Woods was given six figures to go to Iowa, what is he getting a cut of that is worth six figures? Singlet sales with his name on them (like jerseys for football/basketball players)? Is he going to do commercials for someone's business in IC? If these offers get this big in non-revenue sports, someone is going to have to start providing evidence of financial benefit to avoid it being just a pay-for-play scheme.
I don't really mean to single out Woods here, he's just an example, and certainly not a unique one.
I guess being grateful just wasn't enough to carry the day for that kid.
Pretty sure this happens every day in "the real world."
Now-a-days they seem to grow up too fast.
I believe the smaller conferences and programs are starting to go into survival mode. I think they are just trying to stave off what they see will be the inevitable. And that is administrators feeling it’s not worth keeping a sport around that loses money and now serves as a feeder system to the bigger programs.
True. But will it just be tilting at windmills, like JTS seemed to indicate?
The cynic in me says, if coaches are paid to win and they can't win because the athletes they developed are poached by 3rd party $ bagmen under the guise of NIL, they have three choices:
1) Figure out how to work the NIL,
2) Start preparing for a new career,
3) Work to change the paradigm Ws and Ls matter most, keep coaching, and hope for the best.
They don’t like tough compliance!
For those not liking all this money in amateur wrestling being passed around, don’t worry. In the future things will go back to more of what we are used to. When there’s only a handful of programs left, the athletes will be begging for opportunities because there won’t be any left. And big donors won’t be needed to buy kids because the kids will want to wrestle somewhere and there aren’t many programs left. 
I understand your prediction and concerns. Still I remain optimistic. I don't see NIL or wrestlers leaving for NIL $ elsewhere as a real reason for schools to drop programs. If it becomes an excuse, well then I'd think it was going to happen eventually, regardless.
I believe small schools can still compete on equal footing in their small conferences. I think pride in the conference championship will grow..
Sure, more stratification is possible. The small schools may less frequently have AAs at nationals, which I am sure they take pride in. They will be even more proud when it does occur.
That is the beauty of the free market after all.For those not liking all this money in amateur wrestling being passed around, don’t worry. In the future things will go back to more of what we are used to. When there’s only a handful of programs left, the athletes will be begging for opportunities because there won’t be any left. And big donors won’t be needed to buy kids because the kids will want to wrestle somewhere and there aren’t many programs left.
Maybe all those school administrators who were hell bent on eliminating programs had this strategy all along, but I doubt it.
I’m trying to stay optimistic… really…I am. I just think the perfect storm just hit college wrestling. It’s not just NIL. It’s that coupled with the ease in which an athlete can now transfer and I just can’t see any of it being good for the sport. I’m always looking at things through the lens of a wrestling fan, just now I’m trying to look at it as if I’m an administrator at a University, one that knows nothing about the sport, doesn’t care if it even exists and only sees red when going through it’s financials. I don’t mean to be a prick in all this. I’m really not… just trying to take a broader look at it all and it’s frightening.
They're nowhere near that smart, organized, or capable.
Proof: Emmert still runs the NCAA. ("Kansas City Jayhawks," lol.)
Didn't say that it hasn't happened beforehand just saying NIL will create more oppertunities for it to happen.
Oye...Willie on The First Word saying coaches are reporting Iowa and Michigan for violations...tampering.
If you look at the granular detail of NIL deals currently in force, 95%+ are local deals. As an advertiser, I can impact a small market quickly and easily with an NIL deal because the competition for eyeballs is thin. At a University like Appy State in Boone, NC you can get athletes of all kinds on local TV & media to hawk (no pun intended) cars, food, events, etc. The same approach Detroit, Indy, Columbus, or any metro area is going to be drown out by the sheer volume and sophistication of mass media outlets. My point is that athletes at smaller universities are going to have certain advantages in obtaining NIL’s that might even things out a little. At the same time, getting athletes “known” better to local markets might boost athletic event attendance and reduce the red ink associated with wrestling. There are partnerships to be developed and it’s my opinion that the smaller schools will find ways to thrive.
I like what your saying by getting these "local" kids on local TV stations to help boost the attendance and I could see how that would help with attendees if they are "superstars"
Willie has also stated that PSU wrestlers not in the portal have been contacted too. He said it is 2 schools and not Iowa or Michigan. He said to his knowledge Cael is not reporting this to the NCAA.
To elaborate, Justin Basch replied to a question "does this include NCAA Champs?"
His reply: Yes
To elaborate, Justin Basch replied to a question "does this include NCAA Champs?"
His reply: Yes
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And when it does happen, one of the big wigs will do a no-no and Ohio University or Bloomsburg will be punished.
Cael is just going to have a bug meet the windshield conversation with the appropriate offenders.
