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Seems easy enough to get around, assuming the a NIL contract can be written to pay money in out in future years or to a trust.

Not sure why people would think a purported 6-figure NIL deal would be paid in one tax year as a lump sum.

Was Kyle Snyder's gold medal payments put in a trust to maintain his college eligibility?
I'm sure it's not paid out in one year. A hypothetical $200k nil is probably $200k/number of years of expected participation. I'm sure they have some way to tie nil to a specific schools participation so they don't have to pay nil for an athlete that transfers (although that would be funny).

As for a trust or future years payout; I guess that could be done be I doubt it is being done. I predict the IRS will have a field day with this stuff.
 
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I have no link. It is simply word of mouth from a very connected Iowa grad who has given plenty of money that direction. I have every reason to believe he is being honest and part of a larger group of people trying to insure his school stays competitive with PSU,tOSU, and Michigan as the races to draw athletes heats up.
Do they have any grasp that $225k would be better spent pursuing somebody that has an incredible track record developing upper weight talent?
 
part of a larger group of people trying to insure his school stays competitive with PSU,tOSU, and Michigan as the races to draw athletes heats up

Fear is a marketing go to motivator. I wouldn't be surprised to find some fundraisers leveraging it.


Reading Corby's tweet makes me think he's feeding the PSU as boogeyman / common enemy line to further Iowa fundraising. Reassure them they are winning battles.

Reactionaries ponying up 6-figure NILs for the flavor of the month sure don't seem to be taking the long view.
 
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Fear is a marketing go to motivator. I wouldn't be surprised to find some fundraisers leveraging it.



Reading Corby's tweet makes me think he's feeding the PSU as boogeyman / common enemy line to further Iowa fundraising. Reassure them they are winning battles.

Reactionaries ponying up 6-figure NILs for the flavor of the month sure don't seem to be taking the long view.
yea, how do you miss if you don't aim or try?
 
I was pointing out that very few wrestlers get scholarship money now so the 9.9 limit isn't woefully low since if it were there would be far fewer college wrestlers. Most wrestle because they like/want/or dare I say have fun wrestling. Same with all college sports.
Calculate the ratio of allowed scholarship football players to rostered players and the same for wrestling and let me know which is lower. I'd say by comparison where all student athletes are equal that wrestling scholarships are woefully low.

I never said the number of college wrestlers is a function of the number of available scholarships. I don't think there is a correlation.
 
they have some way to tie nil to a specific schools participation so they don't have to pay nil for an athlete that transfers (although that would be funny).
NIL contracts tied to participation are explicitly disallowed. Probably would terminate athletes eligibility. Then the student athlete would be left with nothing. Seems like a bad NIL for the student athlete, so I don't see any accepting that kind of risk.
 
Calculate the ratio of allowed scholarship football players to rostered players and the same for wrestling and let me know which is lower. I'd say by comparison where all student athletes are equal that wrestling scholarships are woefully low.

I never said the number of college wrestlers is a function of the number of available scholarships. I don't think there is a correlation.
Nice. It appears you just want to argue and not discuss so have a good day.
 
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Do they have any grasp that $225k would be better spent pursuing somebody that has an incredible track record developing upper weight talent?
Some people are questioning the coaching. My friends all love Tom Brands as the head coach and Morningstar as a recruiter. There are many who would scrap Terry for outside blood and Telford for a more accomplished big guy coach. The Real landing worked in giving a spark to fundraising efforts. I think the relationship between Izzy and important funding sources like Fellers made that an easy target. The people in Iowa City are crazy,blind or whatever you want to call them but they are not lazy. They will keep working to put Iowa ahead of PSU without totally grasping Cael plays chess while they play chutes and ladders.
 
How does athletes having an independent income source negatively affect the bottom line for a school?

Big money donors behind a given sport can step up (or not) regardless of school size. It should make sports generally more affordable, if anything.

Do you think University Academic Leaders care much if at all, about the success on the field of their non-revenue sports?

I don't.

Athletic Administrators should care, because NIL had the potential to reduce their power and leverage. But eliminating sports would just be cutting off their nose in spite of their face.

As long as their are teams Coaches will concern themselves with the student athletes in front of them and the student body and alumni will rally behind those athletes.

Yea, I tend to agree - if big money boosters financially support the school's athletes, they potentially don't have to give any scholarships and kids could pay tuition from booster financial support which would improve schools bottom line, not hurt it.
 
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Still, the Supreme Court said it's here.

So it doesn't matter who likes it or not.

Likewise there's no point in regretting it. It's the law and it's not going back. Just need to adapt.
If the sport comes down to a few programs because of lack of teams, the interest will wane further and think NIL deals will wither away as well.
 
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Fear is a marketing go to motivator. I wouldn't be surprised to find some fundraisers leveraging it.



Reading Corby's tweet makes me think he's feeding the PSU as boogeyman / common enemy line to further Iowa fundraising. Reassure them they are winning battles.

Reactionaries ponying up 6-figure NILs for the flavor of the month sure don't seem to be taking the long view.
What the heck is going on in IC?

 
If the sport comes down to a few programs because of lack of teams, the interest will wane further and think NIL deals will wither away as well.
So you're saying the NIL marketplace will self regulate along the way until it reaches some equilibrium point around which it might dither?

I can see that.
 
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So you're saying the NIL marketplace will self regulate along the way until it reaches some equilibrium point around which it might dither?

I can see that.
Unfortunately at the expenses of a sport that many universities have been looking for a scapegoat to be able to cut said sport anyway. Once gone it’s difficult to bring them back.
 
Obviously someone in Iowa's camp is feeding to Corby that there is no NIL deal for Woods at all and it's made up by the PSU camp out of jealousy that they got Woods. The kid just wanted to go to Iowa.

PSU camp (and Stanford camp) is saying there is a NIL deal that PSU never was involved in, our name was erroneously floated around and Stanford is upset they lost Real Woods when they were expecting him back.

Like always, the truth is PROBABLY somewhere in between IMO.
 
Fellers can’t even follow a conversation. Guy in the replies makes a clear implied crack about Penn State and he thinks it’s about his beloved Hawks #cornrot
Believe it or not, I think Fellers is complimenting Penn State there because anything less would make him look hypocritical when it comes to using money to succeed. I think he's saying Tom and Terry don't think PSU succeeded because of money alone and realized they needed to step their game up to compete. He's a tool but I don't think Fellers is actually dumb, I think he's a big time Sales Executive actually.
 
My personal opinion is that the NIL issue will separate the the winners from the losers, but not in the way you may think. I think that most recruits that are looking to maximize their NIL opportunities right out of high school and are primarily basing their college choice on that factor are going to be the ones that underachieve at a greater than average rate. These kids are going to need a very strong family backbone to handle it, and we know many wrestlers don't have that.
Imagine the PSU wrestlers we have enjoyed rooting for over the last dozen years. Would NIL $ have made much of a difference in their career trajectories? Think about the kids that didn't reach their goals. Would NIL money have helped them or accelerated their trajectory in the wrong direction?
I think we are going to see some top rated kids get some big NIL deals in the near future and wash out in record time. Great kids with great support systems will be fine, but there will be many others that will shoot themselves in the foot.
College superstar signs a pro contract worth millions and the does some unthinkable act that throws it away (see NFL player crashes car in Vegas at 157mph). Now I have a dirty feeling that this kind of behavior/actions could start much earlier.
 
I have no link. It is simply word of mouth from a very connected Iowa grad who has given plenty of money that direction. I have every reason to believe he is being honest and part of a larger group of people trying to insure his school stays competitive with PSU,tOSU, and Michigan as the races to draw athletes heats up.
Some of these guys kill me with their... We want your sources but if you give 2 much info that slap ya as well. Apparently "those who know" only communicate via telegraph or carrier pigeons bc they usually jump when when I bring word of mouth/personal conversation information in.
 
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Some people are questioning the coaching. My friends all love Tom Brands as the head coach and Morningstar as a recruiter. There are many who would scrap Terry for outside blood and Telford for a more accomplished big guy coach. The Real landing worked in giving a spark to fundraising efforts. I think the relationship between Izzy and important funding sources like Fellers made that an easy target. The people in Iowa City are crazy,blind or whatever you want to call them but they are not lazy. They will keep working to put Iowa ahead of PSU without totally grasping Cael plays chess while they play chutes and ladders.
I have to admit I am happy with Tom as Iowa's head coach as well as Morningstar as the chief recruiter.
 
All I can say is, if the rumored numbers are true about what Real Woods is getting (or even a fraction of that) there better be some deep pockets in Iowa City. Somebody is playing too much of their stack way too early in the game.
Reminds me of the joke about the old bull and young bull on the hill looking at all the heifers in the valley.
Cael is the old bull.
 
Maybe he can't navigate to our site since he burnt his eyes with the mat sterilaser? 🤷‍♂️ Or maybe he's just bitter against PSU now?
I’ll admit, I like Corby. He’s obviously an Iowa fan but I always considered him one of the good ones. Maybe I was wrong. I’m definitely team Willie but still hope he joins us here.
 
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What kind of mess will it be when the NCAA sits its first wrestler to a bogus NIL deal..
 
I'll say this.. If you receive NIL then your scholarship should be lowered if not cut.
It is no longer student athlete…it is now entrepreneur athlete…might as well move In the direction of no classes required. “Remember when” will be the new catch phrase for college sports, just like it was with the Olympics As they moved to include professional athletes. Not saying that all change is bad, but let’s face it, traditionalism is gone from sports (insert the new DH in MLB National League). 🤑🤑🤑🤑 talks…
 
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I feel I don't get to tell college athletes whether or not they should be allowed to make money in specific ways. My feelings on their compensation don't matter and my college sports fandom isn't affected by whether the athletes make money beyond their scholarship.

And most of your issue seems to be with transfers, not NIL.
Surely you are not disregarding that many of these “Transfers” are directly due to NIL…
 
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