You are revising history. You wanted Rojas to redshirt. YOu did not think he was big enough and according to you we were loaded at LB. YOu had him behind Wylie and Deluca.
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You are revising history. You wanted Rojas to redshirt. YOu did not think he was big enough and according to you we were loaded at LB. YOu had him behind Wylie and Deluca.
You've officially jumped the shark, Wallie.
The NFL people who watch film for a living judged Dotson as a mid 1stRound talent.
Catch you later.
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Newsflash: The coaches had him behind Deluka and Wylie going into Spring practice, and for all we know Rojas is still be behind them.
Deluka was the prime backup to Jacobs at the end of last season and the coaches thought enough of him that they put him on scholarship. I haven't heard much about Wylie coming out of Spring practice, but 247 put out a depth chart that has Rojas behind them both.
Penn State football's unofficial post-spring depth chart
Penn State football's depth chart coming out of spring practice 2023
247sports.com
I did not "want him to redshirt". I don't care if he redshirts or plays. If he can make an every game impact either on special teams or as a LB it's only rational that the coaches would burn his redshirt. He seems to have made great progress during the Spring practices, and it seems that he may contribute not only as a special teams player but possibly in the 2 deep as the season progresses, or possibly a few situational snaps per game.
You're just looking for something to cry about. Or find something someone else says to complain about. I didn't watch the Spring practices and neither did you, and Franklin isn't likely to give us a LB depth chart before the WVU game at the earliest.
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The NFL is the NFL. Some clown drafted Tim Tebow in the first round. Never the less, Dotson is the third option in Washington, playing almost entirely in the slot where he can face zone coverage and hasn't done much when playing outside. My point stands. He is a very good receiver, he is going to have a longer than average NFL career, but is not a legit #1.
You are ignoring Dotson's fatal flaws. He was recruited by James Franklin and did not catch balls from Hackenberg. Actually, maybe he could have pulled in some of those wild throws
So you've managed to predict anything from 7-5 to 11-1. Way to go on a limb. That range should be sufficient to cover any excuses or justifications you can come up with in order to maintain your Nostradamus status.
Your definition of "improbable" seems to be any set of criteria or conditions you can come up with after the fact in order to justify and support the supposed accuracy of your original prediction.
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Yeah, you never know about draft choices.
Can you imagine the New York Jets took Christian Hackenberg in the 2nd Round and he never threw a single pass in the NFL regular season
He didn't predict 11-1. I posted a quote of his prediction earlier in this thread with a link to the thread a year ago where he posted it. He predicted 7 wins and said everything had to break our way to get to a ceiling on 9. He isn't a PSU fan. He comes here to trash PSU. Then he lies about what he said after it doesn't come true.
Actually you are the liar. I predicted that if everything broke our way, and it did, we could get to ten wins, which is what happened. Deal with it, liar.
Again, below is your quote with the link to the thread where you predicted it.
Cherry picking? Those are your exact words with a link to when and where you posted them. You are calling me a liar for providing a full quote with a link to your own words?
You used his own exact words.Cherry picking? Those are your exact words with a link to when and where you posted them. You are calling me a liar for providing a full quote with a link to your own words?
Cherry picking? Those are your exact words with a link to when and where you posted them. You are calling me a liar for providing a full quote with a link to your own words?
I told you a while ago that he is not only a poser-troll but a royal douche to boot.
Except some problems -
They had to respect Clifford's legs, as did everyone we played. They are now in Green Bay. While Allar is more mobile than Anthony Morelli, he is closer to Hackenberg (who wasn't a statue but wasn't terribly mobile) than Clifford. I certainly don't discount the impact on opposing defenses.
I think people are getting carried away with their praise for the line. The line was not very good before the Michigan game, frequently getting beat up by the likes of Central Michigan, then it fell apart in Ann Arbor. Neither team brought the house and both employed dedicated personnel to spy the QB on many plays. OSU only rushed 3 or 4 most plays. They only looked above average (never good) against Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland and Michigan State, none of whom had much of a pass rush (Sparty was down the majority of its two deep on defense including the best pass rusher in the league).
We only looked above average when we moved to 12 personnel after KLM was benched. The receiving corps certainly looks no better than last year when we fielded the least amount of talent at the position since the dark years and all indications are we are going back to the 3 receive set full time in 2023.
Yeah and the all everything UM center got drafted way after PSU's center Juice Scruggs.
Allar has every bit the legs Cliff does. Sorry but people dogging Drew's mobility need to take a second glance.
I don’t think he us quick of foot as Clifford. But he is much better than Hack and similar to Levis. Strong, deceptive speed, and sees the field and can pick his way.
Teams that underestimate his running eill oay a price.
I think Allar has good pocket presence and awareness already. He doesn't need to be Lamar Jackson. He is going to feel the rush, move, not go down easy with his size, and throws well on the move and at different angles.
He may not break a 70 yard TD scramble but he'll pick up 1st downs with his legs and extend plays in which our athletes might get that 70 yard TD from either a broken coverage or his ability to just find someone in space.
We'll see to the extent this plays out but I feel like we have seen some elements of that type of player already.
He may not break a 70 yard TD scramble but he'll pick up 1st downs with his legs and extend plays in which our athletes might get that 70 yard TD from either a broken coverage or his ability to just find someone in space.
We'll see to the extent this plays out but I feel like we have seen some elements of that type of player already.
Which Penn State players have made big strides since the 2022 season ended?
Penn State strength coach Chuck Losey met with reporters for the first time this summer on Thursday with workouts underway.
Strength coach interview. Losey says he's 302 and putting it all together.
See? I'm telling ya! JJ and Coziah the 1s then DVon and Zane the 2s and Beamon can play on third and long.Which Penn State players have made big strides since the 2022 season ended?
Penn State strength coach Chuck Losey met with reporters for the first time this summer on Thursday with workouts underway.www.on3.com
Strength coach interview. Losey says he's 302 and putting it all together.
Glad he has gained weight & strength. Coac Franklin indicated he has made good progress. PSU needs him to be contributing meaningful minutes in the rotation this year.Which Penn State players have made big strides since the 2022 season ended?
Penn State strength coach Chuck Losey met with reporters for the first time this summer on Thursday with workouts underway.
Strength coach interview. Losey says he's 302 and putting it all together.
Quick a foot? Are you referring to his first step?
Clifford's pocket awareness was mediocre at best. I have too many memories of Cliff standing in the pocket 1/2 second too long and then attempting to run but at that point was at arm's length from a defender that got hold of him and got him sacked.
Yep, Cliff looked good when he got away. But too many times he misjudged the pocket or misjudged his escapability and played a probable first down or positive play into a sack.
If Allar has even a little better judgement and awareness in the pocket, combined with his strength and statue that should allow him to break away of some arm tackles, Allar should make more positives out of the worst blocked passing plays. And with his arm and the focus downfield he has shown in limited opportunities I believe Allar will make more explosive plays during his scrambles than what Cliff did as well.
Putting it all together in the weight room is different than putting it all together on the field.Which Penn State players have made big strides since the 2022 season ended?
Penn State strength coach Chuck Losey met with reporters for the first time this summer on Thursday with workouts underway.
Strength coach interview. Losey says he's 302 and putting it all together.
Cliffords pocket awareness was not mediocre at best, it was horrendous.
Well, I was attempting to be polite to the young man…….
True.
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Yep, and if they needed 320 lb DT's to stop NFL running games, they would have them in those 53.
PSU didn't field 320 lb DT's when they beat Michigan 3 of the last 6 years......
The whole DL, DT's and DE's could be a little bigger and stronger and I believe that is what Franklin was referring to. PSU had stronger 3 tech DT's in the past vs what Beamon's size and strength has been the last 2 years. Beamon is currently listed at 256 lbs, more NFL LB size than DT. And as good as Robinson was rushing the QB, playing DE at under 240 lbs didn't help PSU stop good running teams either. And as some have already stated, Sutherland and Elsdon were on the ground when the Michigan RB's were running by.
PSU doesn't need big and fat DT's to beat Michigan, but better DT's and better players at a few other positions as well.
Back to the DT discussion, anyone else read about Franklin's recent comments regarding the DL?
Franklin discussed the defensive line unprompted and energetically, calling it the position group about which he's most excited. Which was interesting, considering that Franklin said after last year's loss to Michigan that the line, notably its tackles, needed to get bigger and stronger.
Well, tackles Hakeem Beamon (now 275 pounds) and Zane Durant (280) have done that. Franklin said both have gained necessary weight and suggested that Beamon, a returning starter, could be one of the nation's best tackles. Further, fifth-year senior Dvon Ellies, a charismatic personality like former tackle and captain PJ Mustipher, is working with an edge Franklin hadn't seen before. The combination led Franklin to this preseason prediction.
"We've got a chance to have one of the best defensive lines in the country from a depth and talent standpoint but also from a size standpoint," Franklin said. "... That's a position group that I'm really excited about, that I think can take us to the next level on defense."
Referenced in the SI article:
Franklin discussed the defensive line unprompted and energetically, calling it the position group about which he's most excited. Which was interesting, considering that Franklin said after last year's loss to Michigan that the line, notably its tackles, needed to get bigger and stronger.
Well, tackles Hakeem Beamon (now 275 pounds) and Zane Durant (280) have done that. Franklin said both have gained necessary weight and suggested that Beamon, a returning starter, could be one of the nation's best tackles. Further, fifth-year senior Dvon Ellies, a charismatic personality like former tackle and captain PJ Mustipher, is working with an edge Franklin hadn't seen before. The combination led Franklin to this preseason prediction.
"We've got a chance to have one of the best defensive lines in the country from a depth and talent standpoint but also from a size standpoint," Franklin said. "... That's a position group that I'm really excited about, that I think can take us to the next level on defense."
Referenced in the SI article:
You could notice it on Durant in the photos from their visit to the Hershey kids hospital last week. Kid looks jacked and noticeably bigger than his freshman season.
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Penn State Freshmen Intros -- Defensive Tackle Tyriq Blanding
Marty Leap • Happy Valley Insider
Staff Writer
Few members of Penn State's 2023 recruiting class was more overlooked and less talked about than defensive tackle
Tyriq Blanding
. Blanding was the lone defensive tackled signed by the Nittany Lions last cycle.
Blanding comes to Penn State from Christ the King Regional High School in Middle Village, New York. Penn State's prime competition for Blanding was Michigan,with the Nittany Lions beating out the Wolverines following Blanding's official visit to Penn State last June.
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Where does Blanding fit on the roster?
Blanding is a player who should be a lock to redshirt this fall. Blanding has good size to work with at 6'2", 280 pounds. However, he will need time in the strength and conditioning program to add the strength and mass he needs to compete in the Big Ten.Additionally, Blanding did not play much defensive line in high school. Due to this, he has a lot to learn about the fundamentals, techniques, and basics of playing defensive line.
Penn State's defensive tackle room is also a deep one. All of this will likely lead to Blanding being a few years away from significant, important game reps with the Nittany Lions.
Blanding is a very raw player. Due to this, he is likely 3 years away from being in position to crack Penn State's defensive tackle rotation. Hopefully Blanding can follow in the footsteps of fellow New York defensive tackle Kaleb Artis by making quick gains while on campus and proving to be ahead of schedule in a lot of ways.
This just in. 247 lists penn state's o-line as the 8th best in the country coming into 2023. But what do they know?
