Be careful or he'll accuse you of lying about your degrees, your profession, where you've traveled etc. LOL. So happy I have that loser blocked.
Joe, Penn State Lies.
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That's all he's got because he's weak on facts. Like Franco lied 12 years ago because he had CTE. Or that victims didn't change stories after repressed memory therapy (victim 7 said he didn't get hypnotized but counseling helped him remember).
You know what I think?
Then you know that I think you should get a life.
You have your theory. If it makes you sleep better at night, keep believing it.
I have mine and I sleep just fine.
Why don’t you go pester the Michigan, Ohio State, or Michigan State boards? Stakes are much higher there.
Well, I'll wait for him to submit photoshopped docs like you did DrBigBeef 🤣 I graciously accept your surrender gaming man in mommies basement! 🤣 But you did meet your match indeed. I'm glad to see I'm still in your head. Let the healing begin!
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I know more abut this case than you I think.
Franco has never said anything of importance other than he supported Joe. Just like Jerry's old teammates support him.
You are a day late and a dollar short. Read the rejection of Sandusky's appeal for a new trial. Didn't happen. Made up by Ziegler and Pendergrast (who himself was accused of CSA)
I don't care what you think
Take your own advice. You are posting here as well.
It's the truth as proven in courts of law.
What helps me sleep is publicly refuting your delusion and conspiracy theories. I am doing you a service by telling you the truth and helping keep the crazy narrative at bay. I'm a silo buster
Doubtful as you must come on here and defend a lie.
Higher stakes than child abuse? I don't think so. You JoeBots need to be fed the truth and I am the zookeeper. If you don't like what I post surrender and put me on ignore like @PSU2UNC did. If you post the false narrative I will refute it every time.
You obviously know a lot about this case. Unfortunately you embellish the facts with your own opinions and lies.
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The troll doesn't know crap. Just lies and his made up Man-ure.
Awesome that you don’t care what we think.
Carry on with your daily typing practice of nonsense.
Decided in courts is truth? How naive! Are you in the 4th grade?
And refute away. Ignorance is bliss…you are the most blissful chap I know.
And where do you propose to find the truth? A conspiracy theorist John Ziegler? LOL How delusional! I don't think you even attended school.
Having a battle of wits with you is fighting an unarmed man. Learn from me grasshopper!
I care when you lie about the guilt of Joe and PSU. I refute it.
Please explain how it is nonsense. What happened in the scandal? Then back it up with facts.
Thanks for giving me your understanding , oh all wise one. You must realize that to many your wisdom isn't worth a crap. You remind me of that old saying "never argue with a fool. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience! ( his understanding)
Well somebody has to do it. You JoeBots are quite daft. Instead of just calling me names while looking like a child, debate me on the facts. I know them and you should learn them.
Caca boy and his flames. Nothing but spammed, idiotic tripe.
You seem to care a lot about what was ruled in court. Well, Joe was never found guilty of anything. Never even charged. In fact, he was PRAISED by the AG for how he handled everything.
But you guys don't seem to care at all about what was proven in court.
True, however he died before the emails came out that showed 1) He knew about 1998(he said he had no idea) and 2) He was part of the decision not to report Sandusky. Since he had passed the buck to Curley in 2001 he was safe but might not have been had the emails been available before he died.
Because he truthfully admitted that MM told him what he saw with Sandusky was CSA. Not horseplay, as many of you think he was told.
Very telling that Joe is telling the truth when it fits your narrative, and lying when it fits your narrative.
Some wisdom for you. No one is honest all the time and no one lies all the time. People are complicated. Joe was no different and this is why you should not worship him. In Joe's case this saying applies "Whether fair or not, you are often remembered by the last bad thing you do." So it is with Joe and PSU.
Joe said that IF the allegations against Sandusky were true, then he and everyone else was fooled. I guess that part was a lie?
I bet you even believe the absurd 1970s allegations.
I bet you even believe the absurd 1970s allegations.
Well we know that the allegations were true.
We now know at least CSS were not fooled as their jail time attests
Not completely. The evidence shows (by Joe's own testimony) that he was told of a crime by McCreary (sexual behavior between child and adult) but as Tom Corbett said later, it's not sure Joe got his head completely wrapped around that idea. Nevertheless, he was bound to report it and make sure it stopped. He short circuited that (as the emails show) so he is disgraced.
I believe others in SC knew about Sandusky for years. Yes.
When I look at those emails, I'd say the only reasonable interpretation is that Curley was going to report Sandusky to CWS, but after talking to Joe decided he would take the extra step and go to Sandusky first. Seems reasonable and not at all inappropriate. Not sure how you read those emails, but apparently your comprehension of them is not very good.
The whackoffnole/wastecoast24 theme...
"Post all night, sleep all day...
Eat and shi-t whenever I may....
Back of my head is flat as can be....
Only wake up to take a pee".
Apologies to the Beverly Hillbillies theme.
"Post all night, sleep all day...
Eat and shi-t whenever I may....
Back of my head is flat as can be....
Only wake up to take a pee".
Apologies to the Beverly Hillbillies theme.
Nole likes to ASSUME and DRAW CONCLUSIONS from VERY FEW FACTS to pass off his opinion as fact.
No one knows what Joe told Curley that caused Curley to change course, my best educated guess was along the lines:
- McQueary really didn’t tell me anything other than Jerry was in the shower with a youth (McQueary alluded to this under oath!)
I see it that McQueary was consistent in his story to everyone in 2001 - he saw Jerry in the shower with a youth, thought it was creepy, but didn’t SEE anything illegal. Nole sees it this way:
- McQueary watered down the story to his dad and Dranov because he was afraid to lose his job
- McQueary was a little more graphic to Joe ( not supported by his testimony)
- McQueary went into Porn Hub level detail with Curley and Schultz
- Joe told Curley not to report it or he would lose his job
So gifted with your words pnnylion. Well done. I see you think I’m the Nole guy as well now. Last week I was a PITT guy. What team am I rooting for next?
No extra step, the original plan called for them to talk to Jerry what changed was that he no longer wanted to report it to DPW. This was a crime and coverup. But he never went to DPW which cost him jail time. Joe was part of that decision. Later other boys were abused by Jerry because of their cover up.
It is criminal if you don't go to the police when you've been told of CSA.
We aren't that much off except you do not recognize the criminality of not reporting Sandusky to the PROPER authorities. That cover up cost them jail time. You are just ignoring what makes Joe and CSS look bad.
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Like how?
Yet Curley mentions he spoke with Joe meaning either 1) Joe changed his mind or 2) Joe was okay with them not reporting Sandusky to DPW. Otherwise Curley wouldn't have mentioned him.
Joe said it was CSA also under oath.
No, MM saw what he thought was anal sodomy between Jerry and the boy. Just them being in the shower would not have caused any report or consternation by MM. Just BS to say otherwise. MM was a tough football player and what he saw obviously freaked him out and caused a report to the President of the University. Just seeing two people in the shower would not cause that.
No, I said he went to Joe to protect his job. He didn't tell his Dad anything because he was in shock seeing a local god molest a boy. Anyway, there was nothing his dad and Dranov could do about it.
Joe said MM told him it was CSA. Joe did this also under oath. MM just didn't use vulgar terms to describe it.
Told them what he told Joe. CSA.
Never said that.
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You seem to have about a 4th grade education - based upon your reasoning? Relative of one of one of the alleged victims? Penn State grad? If not, why do you care what others think? You feel you know everything - good for you.
And post away Handleman…I am sure everyone will come around to your logic based upon your declarations.
Flamethrower beats his meat while trolling.
He's like the kid who calls a false alarm into the fire company, and hides behind the curtains jacking off watching them roll up.
I think you are projecting here middle schooler. You offer nothing more to the discussion but personal insults. Never mind I will continue to teach you grasshopper!
I shall and you will.
It'll help you grow
Soon, and the truth I tell you shall set you free.
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