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Jordan vs Joseph

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One of the two monster match-ups this w/e. What do people think?

Is Cenzo ready for this challenge?

I'm leaning Jordan in a tight one, maybe 4-3 or 6-4. Wouldn't be shocked if Cenzo pulled it off though!

We Are!!!
 
I expect Joesph to win this match. Sure it is a huge test and while Jordan mostly will slow it down Joesph will initiate more action than Jordan is generally comfortable with.

Nevills is going tO make the Lions 2 for 2 in the big matches.
 
I think this will be a lot like a poor man's version of the Taylor-Caldwell matches. Cenzo is not as good as Taylor but will similarly look to score and push pace. Jordan isn't as good as Stalledwell and will look to fill that role.

Cenzo is talented enough to win. I think the question is if he can push the pace for 7 minutes without any errors, because Jordan will likely not initiate any offense, strictly counter-punch.

A win here would be huge -- it would likely give Cenzo the #3 seed at B10s, and thus miss Martinez until the finals.
 
I already commented a bit on this. If VJ can get him up out of stance a bit, say with underhooks, etc., I think he has a shot for TDs. Else, IJ is pretty good on a counter shot, just ask his cousin.
 
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I think this will be a lot like a poor man's version of the Taylor-Caldwell matches. Cenzo is not as good as Taylor but will similarly look to score and push pace. Jordan isn't as good as Stalledwell and will look to fill that role.

Cenzo is talented enough to win. I think the question is if he can push the pace for 7 minutes without any errors, because Jordan will likely not initiate any offense, strictly counter-punch.

A win here would be huge -- it would likely give Cenzo the #3 seed at B10s, and thus miss Martinez until the finals.
I am going to jump into this and hope I don't get the following response "Donny you're out of your element!"
Can't go with Jordan isn't as good as Stalledwell. Jordon would be a NCAA champ is not for D-ringer. He isn't exciting to watch but don't see him losing to Cenzo no matter how much I want it to happen
 
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I am going to jump into this and hope I don't get the following response "Donny you're out of your element!"
Can't go with Jordan isn't as good as Stalledwell. Jordon would be a NCAA champ is not for D-ringer. He isn't exciting to watch but don't see him losing to Cenzo no matter how much I want it to happen

Caldwell would be a three-time champ if not for Jordan Burroughs, David Taylor and Kyle Dake.
 
Good test for both, no doubt. I picked the Wisky guys in both matches in another thread, and not changing my mind. It's at Wisconsin, against guys with some seasoning (I have a good bit of seasoning too, btw).

What I'm excited about is the opportunity. Another step in the process. I'd rather our guys win at B1G's and NCAA's anyway.
 
One of the two monster match-ups this w/e. What do people think?

Is Cenzo ready for this challenge?

I'm leaning Jordan in a tight one, maybe 4-3 or 6-4. Wouldn't be shocked if Cenzo pulled it off though!

We Are!!!
Cenzo will beat him....He is on top of his game now ! Looks great !!!!
 
My biggest concern in the VinJo-ZacJo matchup is whether VinJo can go the full 7 minutes at an attacking pace against ZacJo's very physical style. I could see VinJo getting an early lead via a TD in the 1st (hard to see a whole lot of scoring in the 1st as good defensively as Jordan is), but I'm not sure he's going to be able to make it "stand-up" for the full 7 minutes. Would have to go with Jordan as having the bigger "tank" and that is the biggest concern imho especially given Jordan's physicality.

In regards to Nevills v Medberry, I just see this as a very close match - pretty much a tossup - based on results against common opponents to-date this year. They've both earned their Top 4 ranking on the mat - in terms of Ty Walz and Medberry being in front of Nick in the rankings this year, it really is not based on anything that has happened this year....imho, it's completely based on Medberry AA'ing in 2015 (took an Olympic RS last year) and Walz AA'ing last year. Would not be surprised if Nick won this bout based on performances against common opponents as Nick's offense has really been coming on and most big HWTs (Medberry is a 285 maxer) struggle defending against Nick's "neutral offense". Nick really does have a "varied attack" from his feet for a HWT (i.e., quite the opposite of a "dancing bear").
 
My biggest concern in the VinJo-ZacJo matchup is whether VinJo can go the full 7 minutes at an attacking pace against ZacJo's very physical style. I could see VinJo getting an early lead via a TD in the 1st (hard to see a whole lot of scoring in the 1st as good defensively as Jordan is), but I'm not sure he's going to be able to make it "stand-up" for the full 7 minutes. Would have to go with Jordan as having the bigger "tank" and that is the biggest concern imho especially given Jordan's physicality.

In regards to Nevills v Medberry, I just see this as a very close match - pretty much a tossup - based on results against common opponents to-date this year. They've both earned their Top 4 ranking on the mat - in terms of Ty Walz and Medberry being in front of Nick in the rankings this year, it really is not based on anything that has happened this year....imho, it's completely based on Medberry AA'ing in 2015 (took an Olympic RS last year) and Walz AA'ing last year. Would not be surprised if Nick won this bout based on performances against common opponents as Nick's offense has really been coming on and most big HWTs (Medberry is a 285 maxer) struggle defending against Nick's "neutral offense". Nick really does have a "varied attack" from his feet for a HWT (i.e., quite the opposite of a "dancing bear").

Medberry is not a "285 maxer." More like 265 and he moves really well. Used to be 220 in HS
 
Medberry is not a "285 maxer." More like 265 and he moves really well. Used to be 220 in HS

Wisconsin lists his weight at 285 lbs on his profile at their website (LINK), they list height first than weight, but it sounds like maybe they mean "weight class", but it is very confusing given that they list height than weight right below it.
 
I find it odd that they list his height. Seems like a lot of height stats are absent from Bios and rosters! Have always wanted to see height on our info.....love to know how tall Suriano, Zain, Cenzo and McCutchen are. I recall looking for hts. on other wrestlers like Dan Valimont, Brad Petaki and Chance Marsteller.
 
Kinda like, Hey! My school made the NCAA basketball tournament for the first time ever! But, uh, we drew Duke first round.
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I am going to jump into this and hope I don't get the following response "Donny you're out of your element!"
Can't go with Jordan isn't as good as Stalledwell. Jordon would be a NCAA champ is not for D-ringer. He isn't exciting to watch but don't see him losing to Cenzo no matter how much I want it to happen

Caldwell went 5,2,3,2 at NCAAs with the first 2 years being as a true frosh and a true soph. Jordan so far has gone 7,7,2 at NCAAs so regardless of who they met in the finals so far Caldwell definitely had a better career. Now if Jordan wins NCAAs this year I would change my mind about that.

However, back to the original question. I think Joseph can win but needs to be error free as others have said because Jordan will be slowing things down and looking to counter.
 
It's at Wisconsin, against guys with some seasoning

(I have a good bit of seasoning too, btw).

What I'm excited about is the opportunity. Another step in the process. I'd rather our guys win at B1G's and NCAA's anyway.


Your good seasoning posts couldn't cumin more loud and clear. We always know what you mint to say. Appreciate your good thyming and sage comments RoarLions1.

We haven't heard your fennel comments.
Curry on...
 
Your good seasoning posts couldn't cumin more loud and clear. We always know what you mint to say. Appreciate your good thyming and sage comments RoarLions1.

We haven't heard your fennel comments.
Curry on...
Nice effort...I like it! "Seasoning", taken from "seasoned veteran" sounded politically correct...so went with it :). You took it in an entirely different, albeit fun, direction...needed the giggle, so well done.
 
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LOL -
Well played Franklin_Restores_TheTradition.

Appreciated by those old enough to get your clever reference. ;)
Damn... I don't consider myself old but i do recall the Galloping Gourmet. Maybe I can get away with only being lightly seasoned,
 
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WOW. What a match. I know all the cliches...he'll learn from this, this shows he's right there with the top tier, etc and they are all valid.

But, damn. That was a brutal loss.

Still...feeling real good about Cenzo and Nevills after their matches!
 
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Feeling really good about Cenzo and Nevills, too. Thought they would both come up just a bit short but those were gut wrenching losses. Most definitely could have gone the other way. Can't wait to see the rematches.
 
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