Journeymen Collegiate Classic, Nov. 12 Bethlehem Freedom High
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And just like that, Hodge is down to Brooks and Carter.
Yeah--he went first this round, I think. Beat NC State's #8 Trephan 7-2.
Barraclaugh beats Matt Lee 4-0
Think the lawyers will be able to get this result tossed for him..
I’m thinking Steveson just might be lucky enough to be included.
So every starter dominated except BB's match against Cornella and he was in control of that one. I used to not believe in the 125 curse and just thought it was a timing issue because of Suriano but now I'm starting to think it's real. I really hope Howard figures it out because he's put in so much work to get back but today was a rough one.
I’d guess it was more of a look for approval to finish the match or to keep wrestling. It’s an early season tournament - not NCAAs. Mat time right now is more important than a fall in s meaningless match in s meaningless tournament.
Here’s the full Vito Crookham match if you don’t watch flo:
“Brands in particular is not an offensive juggernaut, despite what geniuses on Iowa podcasts might say.” 😂😂😂
It makes a ton of sense to just start Braeden Davis this year if he is the best in the room and as of today, he looked like it.
With Lilledahl coming in you might as well ease the logjam. 125 seems wide open too, you never know where he could end up.
I think Cael will give Howard a shot though, he's worked too hard not to get one. Hopefully he gets it together next weekend.
I have not, in fairness, seen much of Howard in the past, but he didn’t look to have much from and offense/attack standpoint. Don’t know if that’s rust/ injury effect or just what he is as a wrestler but if he isn’t clearly the best guy and if Davis is holding his own like he did today, you have to consider going with him.
I think one issue with Robbie is that he likes to create counters with his great whizzer and other funky counters. His whizzer is great, but I can see feeling less confident in those positions with at least one bad shoulder.
How do you “fix” it though. If you “hold the 1” then the top guy gets control again is it a takedown? Is it 1 anyway but no takedown? Then what? Can he escape for 1 again?
I think I might be underselling Davis at this point. He looks great and 10-3 over Steen is pretty damn convincing
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125: #20 Robert Howard, So.
Rd. 1: Ashton Jackson, Purdue – WBF (4:45)
Rd. 2: Dylan Ryder, Hofstra – L, 3-13 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Max Gallagher, Penn – L, 5-8 dec.
125: Gary Steen, So.
Rd. 1: Noah Tonsor, Army West Point – W, 16-1 (TF; 3:18)
Rd. 2: Bronson Garber, Bloomsburg – W, 17-2 (TF; 6:15)
Rd. 3: Braeden Davis, Penn State – L, 3-11 maj. dec.
125: Braeden Davis, Fr.
Rd. 1: Ariel Waldman, LIU – W, 15-0 (TF; 2:15)
Rd. 2: Eric Howe, F&M – W, 20-5 (TF; 4:00)
Rd. 3: Gary Steen, Penn State – W, 11-3 maj. dec.
133: Baylor Shunk, Sr.
Rd. 1: Jake Staud, Army West Point – L, 1-3 dec.
Rd. 2: Jameson Garcia, Harvard – L, 8-16 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Daniel Uhorchuck, Army West Point – L, 7-9 dec.
133: Sean Wang, So.
Rd. 1: Daniel Miranda, Arizona State – LBF (0:55)
Rd. 2: Conor Collins, Army West Point – L, 1-8 dec.
Rd. 3: Colt Schrader, Army West Point – W, 16-7 maj. dec.
141: #2 Beau Bartlett, Sr.
Rd. 1: Dante Frinzi, Harvard – WBF (1:29)
Rd. 2: #13 Vince Cornella, Cornell – W, 4-1 (sv)
Rd. 3: #12 Malyke Hines, Lehigh – W, 15-3 maj. dec.
141: David Evans, Jr.
Rd. 1: #6 CJ Composto, Penn – W, 4-1 (sv)
Rd. 2: #12 Malyke Hines, Lehigh – L, 4-6 dec.
Rd. 3: #13 Vince Cornella, Cornell – W, med. forf.
149: #2 Shayne Van Ness, So.
Rd. 1: Eddie Hummel, Army West Point – WBF (2:06)
Rd. 2: Cade Balestrini, Bloomsburg – WBF (2:58)
Rd. 3: Kelvin Griffin, Lehigh – WBF (1:30)
149: Connor Pierce, Fr.
Rd. 1: Owen Reinsel, Lehigh – W, 13-3 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Ethan Fernandez, Cornell – L, 2-8 dec.
Rd. 3: Cole Handlovic, Cornell – W, 8-1 dec.
157: #1 Levi Haines, So.
Rd. 1: Luca Frinzi, Lehigh – W, 18-0 (TF; 4:35)
Rd. 2: Cael Berg, Harvard – WBF (4:22)
Rd. 3: #27 Max Brignola, Lehigh – W, 10-2 maj. dec.
165: Mitchell Mesenbrink, Fr.
Rd. 1: Nicco Ruiz, Arizona State – W, 14-10 dec.
Rd. 2: Eric Shindel, Hofstra – W, 19-3 (TF; 4:34)
Rd. 3: Cooper Noehre, Purdue – W, 20-5 (TF; 5:37)
165: Matt Lee, Jr.
Rd. 1: James Johnston, LIU – W, 16-5 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Nicholas Franzen, Sacred Heart – WBF (4:19)
Rd. 3: Terrell Barraclough, Penn State – L, 0-4 dec.
165: Terrell Barraclough, Sr.
Rd. 1: Kaya Sement, Penn – W, 9-0 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Cole Spencer, Penn – W, 5-0 dec.
Rd. 3: Matt Lee, Penn State – W, 4-0 dec.
174: #1 Carter Starocci, Sr.
Rd. 1: Max Wilner, Arizona State – W, med. forf.
Rd. 2: Luke Rada, Harvard – WBF (2:15)
Rd. 3: #14 Nick Incontrera, Penn – W, 21-5 (TF; 6:52)
174: Aurelius Dunbar, Jr.
Rd. 1: Benny Baker, Cornell – L, 0-8 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Lance Urbas, Penn – W, 7-3 dec.
Rd. 3: Blake Bahna, LIU – L, 1-4 (sv) dec.
184: #2 Bernie Truax, Gr.
Rd. 1: #33 James Rowley, Purdue – W, 7-4 dec.
Rd. 2: Cael Valencia, Arizona State – W, 17-4 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: James Conway, F&M – W, 13-4 maj. dec.
184: Donovon Ball, Sr.
Rd. 1: Caden Rogers, Lehigh – L, 0-2 dec.
Rd. 2: Brock Delsignore, North Carolina St. – W, inj. def. (4:34)
Rd. 3: Tony Negron, Arizona State – L, 1-5 dec.
184: Josh Barr, Fr.
Rd. 1: Jake Stefanowicz, Penn – W, 24-9 (TF; 7:00)
Rd. 2: Anthony D'Alesio, LIU – W, 13-5 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Jack Wilt, Lehigh – W, 14-4 maj. dec.
197: #1 Aaron Brooks, Sr.
Rd. 1: Jacob Meissner, Arizona State – WBF (4:43)
Rd. 2: #33 John Crawford, F&M – W, 19-3 (TF; 6:11)
Rd. 3: Martin Cosgrove, Penn – WBF (2:33)
285: #1 Greg Kerkvliet, Sr.
Rd. 1: Tristan Ruhlman, Purdue – W, 17-5 (TF; 6:44)
Rd. 2: #19 Nathan Taylor, Lehigh – W, 6-1 dec.
Rd. 3: #8 Owen Trephan, North Carolina St. – W, 7-2 dec.
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The Penn State Nittany Lion wrestling team (0-0, 0-0 B1G), under the direction of veteran head coach Cael Sanderson, opened up the 2023-24 season at the round-robin portion of the Journeymen Collegiate Classic in Bethlehem, Pa. Twenty Nittany Lions at the event, which took place at Freedom High...
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125: #20 Robert Howard, So.
Rd. 1: Ashton Jackson, Purdue – WBF (4:45)
Rd. 2: Dylan Ryder, Hofstra – L, 3-13 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Max Gallagher, Penn – L, 5-8 dec.
125: Gary Steen, So.
Rd. 1: Noah Tonsor, Army West Point – W, 16-1 (TF; 3:18)
Rd. 2: Bronson Garber, Bloomsburg – W, 17-2 (TF; 6:15)
Rd. 3: Braeden Davis, Penn State – L, 3-11 maj. dec.
125: Braeden Davis, Fr.
Rd. 1: Ariel Waldman, LIU – W, 15-0 (TF; 2:15)
Rd. 2: Eric Howe, F&M – W, 20-5 (TF; 4:00)
Rd. 3: Gary Steen, Penn State – W, 11-3 maj. dec.
133: Baylor Shunk, Sr.
Rd. 1: Jake Staud, Army West Point – L, 1-3 dec.
Rd. 2: Jameson Garcia, Harvard – L, 8-16 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Daniel Uhorchuck, Army West Point – L, 7-9 dec.
133: Sean Wang, So.
Rd. 1: Daniel Miranda, Arizona State – LBF (0:55)
Rd. 2: Conor Collins, Army West Point – L, 1-8 dec.
Rd. 3: Colt Schrader, Army West Point – W, 16-7 maj. dec.
141: #2 Beau Bartlett, Sr.
Rd. 1: Dante Frinzi, Harvard – WBF (1:29)
Rd. 2: #13 Vince Cornella, Cornell – W, 4-1 (sv)
Rd. 3: #12 Malyke Hines, Lehigh – W, 15-3 maj. dec.
141: David Evans, Jr.
Rd. 1: #6 CJ Composto, Penn – W, 4-1 (sv)
Rd. 2: #12 Malyke Hines, Lehigh – L, 4-6 dec.
Rd. 3: #13 Vince Cornella, Cornell – W, med. forf.
149: #2 Shayne Van Ness, So.
Rd. 1: Eddie Hummel, Army West Point – WBF (2:06)
Rd. 2: Cade Balestrini, Bloomsburg – WBF (2:58)
Rd. 3: Kelvin Griffin, Lehigh – WBF (1:30)
149: Connor Pierce, Fr.
Rd. 1: Owen Reinsel, Lehigh – W, 13-3 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Ethan Fernandez, Cornell – L, 2-8 dec.
Rd. 3: Cole Handlovic, Cornell – W, 8-1 dec.
157: #1 Levi Haines, So.
Rd. 1: Luca Frinzi, Lehigh – W, 18-0 (TF; 4:35)
Rd. 2: Cael Berg, Harvard – WBF (4:22)
Rd. 3: #27 Max Brignola, Lehigh – W, 10-2 maj. dec.
165: Mitchell Mesenbrink, Fr.
Rd. 1: Nicco Ruiz, Arizona State – W, 14-10 dec.
Rd. 2: Eric Shindel, Hofstra – W, 19-3 (TF; 4:34)
Rd. 3: Cooper Noehre, Purdue – W, 20-5 (TF; 5:37)
165: Matt Lee, Jr.
Rd. 1: James Johnston, LIU – W, 16-5 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Nicholas Franzen, Sacred Heart – WBF (4:19)
Rd. 3: Terrell Barraclough, Penn State – L, 0-4 dec.
165: Terrell Barraclough, Sr.
Rd. 1: Kaya Sement, Penn – W, 9-0 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Cole Spencer, Penn – W, 5-0 dec.
Rd. 3: Matt Lee, Penn State – W, 4-0 dec.
174: #1 Carter Starocci, Sr.
Rd. 1: Max Wilner, Arizona State – W, med. forf.
Rd. 2: Luke Rada, Harvard – WBF (2:15)
Rd. 3: #14 Nick Incontrera, Penn – W, 21-5 (TF; 6:52)
174: Aurelius Dunbar, Jr.
Rd. 1: Benny Baker, Cornell – L, 0-8 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Lance Urbas, Penn – W, 7-3 dec.
Rd. 3: Blake Bahna, LIU – L, 1-4 (sv) dec.
184: #2 Bernie Truax, Gr.
Rd. 1: #33 James Rowley, Purdue – W, 7-4 dec.
Rd. 2: Cael Valencia, Arizona State – W, 17-4 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: James Conway, F&M – W, 13-4 maj. dec.
184: Donovon Ball, Sr.
Rd. 1: Caden Rogers, Lehigh – L, 0-2 dec.
Rd. 2: Brock Delsignore, North Carolina St. – W, inj. def. (4:34)
Rd. 3: Tony Negron, Arizona State – L, 1-5 dec.
184: Josh Barr, Fr.
Rd. 1: Jake Stefanowicz, Penn – W, 24-9 (TF; 7:00)
Rd. 2: Anthony D'Alesio, LIU – W, 13-5 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Jack Wilt, Lehigh – W, 14-4 maj. dec.
197: #1 Aaron Brooks, Sr.
Rd. 1: Jacob Meissner, Arizona State – WBF (4:43)
Rd. 2: #33 John Crawford, F&M – W, 19-3 (TF; 6:11)
Rd. 3: Martin Cosgrove, Penn – WBF (2:33)
285: #1 Greg Kerkvliet, Sr.
Rd. 1: Tristan Ruhlman, Purdue – W, 17-5 (TF; 6:44)
Rd. 2: #19 Nathan Taylor, Lehigh – W, 6-1 dec.
Rd. 3: #8 Owen Trephan, North Carolina St. – W, 7-2 dec.
Backup QB Syndrome is strong with this.
The entire basis for this is Davis' win over Steen, who was 6-15 last year. The other 2 guys he beat were first-year wrestlers with unimpressive HS backgrounds. Howard's substandard day was against significantly better competition.
Also, I suspect Davis is headed toward 133 someday, and I'd rather have 2 years of him post-Nagao than win this year by 70 instead of 65 points.
Apparently, once again Cael saw something and that' why he brought in Dean for 197, even though he went 7th NCAA, 6th Big Ten.
Another can't miss about to be ok.
Where was this Vito in March?
This team is scary good. SVN looks like a monster. MM is going to be just fine. Nicco Ruiz is super tough and kind of awkward to wrestle. He was a top 25 recruit I think or somewhere in that range. Also first match jitters I’m sure for MM. I love Robbie but I think Davis should maybe get the nod. With Lilledahl coming in it makes sense if Davis keeps performing like he did today. I can’t believe Vito lost. Crookham is strong as an ox at 133. He will give kids fits all season I think. Barr looked really good. Not the best competition but he scored a ton of points and looked good doing it. I might be most excited about SVN at this point. Seems like he’s jumped levels and is just going to destroy people this season. It’s going to be a really fun year to be a PSU fan
Ruiz was a top 20 recruit in 2023. 2x CA state champ. He lost to Sealey at Who's Number One.
Not getting rabies or tetanus was more impressive.
I don't know, I watched Robbie closely all three matches and I know the kids he wrestled today, hardly much of a higher tier than Steen.
His first match was a struggle against an unheralded true frosh until he feet to backed him in the second. Second match was Dylan Ryder who I know very well from my days of attending Binghamton matches. That kid hasn't wrestled a match in 2 years and hasn't really been any thing close to decent in 3 to 4 years. He absolutely handled Robbie.
Then his last match was against another true frosh, although a pretty good one, but he won't make Penn's lineup this year. Robbie got the first TD, but after that the kid just was the better wrestler, there was little doubt who was going to win the match after the kid cut him in the third. I'm not sure that Steen doesn't have a chance to go 3-0 against that slate of opponents. Maybe not, but he's absolutely going to be much more competitive than Howard was today.
Robbie is what, 22, now? You take a couple of years off, have two major shoulder injuries - guess what, the rest of kids don't stop coming or getting better.
Maybe he is coming down with COVID or RSV or mono, but absent that he looked shot today.
Robbie’s pedigree is way too good to chalk it up to anything but rust today. That said, good to see a good back-up plan in action today regardless.
Are you really comparing a returning 3rd place finisher in his third year with PSU coaches to a guy who has been in the room for a few months and in his- what- 5th NCAA match…?
Yea a lot Wang and ball stuff
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Penn State Wrestling Rolls at Journeymen Collegiate Classic
The Penn State Nittany Lion wrestling team (0-0, 0-0 B1G), under the direction of veteran head coach Cael Sanderson, opened up the 2023-24 season at the round-robin portion of the Journeymen Collegiate Classic in Bethlehem, Pa. Twenty Nittany Lions at the event, which took place at Freedom High...
125: #20 Robert Howard, So.
Rd. 1: Ashton Jackson, Purdue – WBF (4:45)
Rd. 2: Dylan Ryder, Hofstra – L, 3-13 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Max Gallagher, Penn – L, 5-8 dec.
125: Gary Steen, So.
Rd. 1: Noah Tonsor, Army West Point – W, 16-1 (TF; 3:18)
Rd. 2: Bronson Garber, Bloomsburg – W, 17-2 (TF; 6:15)
Rd. 3: Braeden Davis, Penn State – L, 3-11 maj. dec.
125: Braeden Davis, Fr.
Rd. 1: Ariel Waldman, LIU – W, 15-0 (TF; 2:15)
Rd. 2: Eric Howe, F&M – W, 20-5 (TF; 4:00)
Rd. 3: Gary Steen, Penn State – W, 11-3 maj. dec.
133: Baylor Shunk, Sr.
Rd. 1: Jake Staud, Army West Point – L, 1-3 dec.
Rd. 2: Jameson Garcia, Harvard – L, 8-16 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Daniel Uhorchuck, Army West Point – L, 7-9 dec.
133: Sean Wang, So.
Rd. 1: Daniel Miranda, Arizona State – LBF (0:55)
Rd. 2: Conor Collins, Army West Point – L, 1-8 dec.
Rd. 3: Colt Schrader, Army West Point – W, 16-7 maj. dec.
141: #2 Beau Bartlett, Sr.
Rd. 1: Dante Frinzi, Harvard – WBF (1:29)
Rd. 2: #13 Vince Cornella, Cornell – W, 4-1 (sv)
Rd. 3: #12 Malyke Hines, Lehigh – W, 15-3 maj. dec.
141: David Evans, Jr.
Rd. 1: #6 CJ Composto, Penn – W, 4-1 (sv)
Rd. 2: #12 Malyke Hines, Lehigh – L, 4-6 dec.
Rd. 3: #13 Vince Cornella, Cornell – W, med. forf.
149: #2 Shayne Van Ness, So.
Rd. 1: Eddie Hummel, Army West Point – WBF (2:06)
Rd. 2: Cade Balestrini, Bloomsburg – WBF (2:58)
Rd. 3: Kelvin Griffin, Lehigh – WBF (1:30)
149: Connor Pierce, Fr.
Rd. 1: Owen Reinsel, Lehigh – W, 13-3 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Ethan Fernandez, Cornell – L, 2-8 dec.
Rd. 3: Cole Handlovic, Cornell – W, 8-1 dec.
157: #1 Levi Haines, So.
Rd. 1: Luca Frinzi, Lehigh – W, 18-0 (TF; 4:35)
Rd. 2: Cael Berg, Harvard – WBF (4:22)
Rd. 3: #27 Max Brignola, Lehigh – W, 10-2 maj. dec.
165: Mitchell Mesenbrink, Fr.
Rd. 1: Nicco Ruiz, Arizona State – W, 14-10 dec.
Rd. 2: Eric Shindel, Hofstra – W, 19-3 (TF; 4:34)
Rd. 3: Cooper Noehre, Purdue – W, 20-5 (TF; 5:37)
165: Matt Lee, Jr.
Rd. 1: James Johnston, LIU – W, 16-5 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Nicholas Franzen, Sacred Heart – WBF (4:19)
Rd. 3: Terrell Barraclough, Penn State – L, 0-4 dec.
165: Terrell Barraclough, Sr.
Rd. 1: Kaya Sement, Penn – W, 9-0 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Cole Spencer, Penn – W, 5-0 dec.
Rd. 3: Matt Lee, Penn State – W, 4-0 dec.
174: #1 Carter Starocci, Sr.
Rd. 1: Max Wilner, Arizona State – W, med. forf.
Rd. 2: Luke Rada, Harvard – WBF (2:15)
Rd. 3: #14 Nick Incontrera, Penn – W, 21-5 (TF; 6:52)
174: Aurelius Dunbar, Jr.
Rd. 1: Benny Baker, Cornell – L, 0-8 maj. dec.
Rd. 2: Lance Urbas, Penn – W, 7-3 dec.
Rd. 3: Blake Bahna, LIU – L, 1-4 (sv) dec.
184: #2 Bernie Truax, Gr.
Rd. 1: #33 James Rowley, Purdue – W, 7-4 dec.
Rd. 2: Cael Valencia, Arizona State – W, 17-4 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: James Conway, F&M – W, 13-4 maj. dec.
184: Donovon Ball, Sr.
Rd. 1: Caden Rogers, Lehigh – L, 0-2 dec.
Rd. 2: Brock Delsignore, North Carolina St. – W, inj. def. (4:34)
Rd. 3: Tony Negron, Arizona State – L, 1-5 dec.
184: Josh Barr, Fr.
Rd. 1: Jake Stefanowicz, Penn – W, 24-9 (TF; 7:00)
Rd. 2: Anthony D'Alesio, LIU – W, 13-5 maj. dec.
Rd. 3: Jack Wilt, Lehigh – W, 14-4 maj. dec.
197: #1 Aaron Brooks, Sr.
Rd. 1: Jacob Meissner, Arizona State – WBF (4:43)
Rd. 2: #33 John Crawford, F&M – W, 19-3 (TF; 6:11)
Rd. 3: Martin Cosgrove, Penn – WBF (2:33)
285: #1 Greg Kerkvliet, Sr.
Rd. 1: Tristan Ruhlman, Purdue – W, 17-5 (TF; 6:44)
Rd. 2: #19 Nathan Taylor, Lehigh – W, 6-1 dec.
Rd. 3: #8 Owen Trephan, North Carolina St. – W, 7-2 dec.
Steen < Ryder so far, right? (Pretty good argument that Gallagher > Steen thru their HS careers, though Steen does have some college development.) The other 2 guys Davis faced might never start in college at their non-power schools. One of them never placed at HS states.
That said, it's quite possible that Howard will never get back to what he was.
We can afford to be patient and find out over the course of the season, as opposed to the first weekend of the season. And there's no need to rush Davis into the lineup with McHenry around.
Didn't keep up with it - did Crookham end up being a 4x PIAA Champ after he transferred?
I can believe Vito lost. He didn't wrestle like he was taking Crookham that seriously for the first period and a half, cutting Crookham with under 30 to go in the first period to try to get another TD, which he rushed to finish and Crookham made him pay, then trying to ride out the second for way too long which led to him trailing 5-3 going into the third. Crookham had him in trouble then and he is a fantastic tactician, the kid is a savant with his mat sense. Not like a freshman at all, he wrestles like he is a coach.
As ZZS said, Crookham is silly strong and going to be a problem for a lot of guys this year. He's not an offensive machine, but he is very good at finishing when he gets to a leg, and his flexibility and strength give him high level defense; plus He's got a gas tank. He's pretty hard to beat when he's gets the lead. He presents a lot like Fix, although I don't think he's got Fix' quicks.
