Julian Fleming sightings in the OSU/ND game
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Yep I think his NFL aspirations are going up in smoke. Maybe he'll portal back to PA.😉
Villanova?
Can he do a sort of reverse and portal to Lackawana
He's the guy Fowler just referred to as "ineffective". Not a joke. He just said that, word for word.
Fowler said on the OSU's last possession that there were 10 uncommitted 5* recruits in attendance. Well Fleming was a 5* so there's that!
Fowler mistakenly gave Fleming credit for a catch by Egbuka at one point. Hard to be effective if you don't play.
He's a starter this year but suffered a minor injury late in the week
This just highlights how cut throat it is. 5 star, #1 WR, top 10 any position, and the kid has done nothing but ride the pine at Ohio St and get passed up by younger guys. Not so different than the kid that was second string there a couple of years ago, transferred to Bama, was 1st string all American and 1st round draft pick after riding the pine at OSU.
The question becomes how many of these uber talented kids need to waste away on OSU's bench before the recruits figure out that if they go somewhere else that they have a much better opportunity? Guessing Fleming would already be a household name at any of his other options coming out of HS and a likely 1st round pick by this year. He seems to have lost a lot money by choosing Ohio St.
The question becomes how many of these uber talented kids need to waste away on OSU's bench before the recruits figure out that if they go somewhere else that they have a much better opportunity? Guessing Fleming would already be a household name at any of his other options coming out of HS and a likely 1st round pick by this year. He seems to have lost a lot money by choosing Ohio St.
That was pretty much healed, although he did pop his shoulder back into socket by himself over the past 10 days. This is a new “lower body” injury that was being monitored and Fleming told the staff during warmups he was unable to play. Recent articles said he was projected to be a key wide receiver for the buckeyes this year.
Julian Fleming Listed As Game-Time Decision, Kamryn Babb Available for Ohio State's Season Opener Against Notre Dame
Ohio State could be without one of its top wideouts against Notre Dame as Julian Fleming will be a game-time decision for the season opener.
Imagine if Julian had committed to PSU with similar results to date?
The NNNNNCAC would have excoriated CJF for destroying yet another generational talent.
It sounds like he will be on the field when he gets past the "lower body" injury.
The shoulder issues, that have plagued him since high school, don't bode well for a long NFL career.
The NNNNNCAC would have excoriated CJF for destroying yet another generational talent.
It sounds like he will be on the field when he gets past the "lower body" injury.
The shoulder issues, that have plagued him since high school, don't bode well for a long NFL career.
He's not riding the OSU bench - he's set to start - WHEN HEALTHY - along with Jason Smith-Njigba, and Marvin Harrison. Health issues have been his problem throughout his OSU career
Why are people obsessed with him. He's not here. Give it a rest. Because he chose OSU over PSU people can't get over it.
Agree to a point. I think the issue I have (and I am an SCA Alum), is not that Julian decided OSU over PSU.
It's more about his comments "justifying" his choice....which was an unnecessary swipe at PSU. I was surprised that Mick didn't admonish him to put a sock in it.
I think many had put him in the win column as early as 10th grade. What they didn't factor in was JF was hanging with his then girlfriend (he's older) who was already attending PSU.
I wish the young man the best......except vs PSU.
Did you see how well Egbuka played last night? He could have supplanted Fleming as the Starter.
Marshall is correct to an extent. Fleming himself was quoted as telling people he expected to go to Penn State. And then Ohio State turned up the recruiting pressure on Fleming and bad mouthed Penn State’s offense and development of receivers. I’m not excusing what Fleming said but he knew that people expected him to go to Penn State and people asked him what changed and he explained that the offense turned him off, just like Kyle McCord explained that he didn’t like how Penn State uses the QB in our offense. I do wonder if Fleming has ever said he regrets his decision to go to Ohio State for individual reasons.
I know some people who still stay close to SCA Football. I've never heard any talk of regret assigned to JF regarding his decision. Frustration with the inability to be healthy.....perhaps. But by all accounts the kid loves his coaches and teammates and the respect for his talent, tenacity and being a team player by his coaches seem genuine.
Isn't it amazing how things can play out? Cal Haladay, a much less touted recruit, was a Freshman All American.
He may end up being the Southern Columbia player they regret missing on the most.
Fleming is just pissed because he’s basically the same age as the top WR picks in last years NFL draft and has barely seen the field. Now, one good year at OSU and he can leave and secure a solid draft position. However, he’s already hurt a lot, old and won’t put up impressive numbers at the combine.
Chances are he won’t have the best NFL career among his HS teammates. Cal Halladay started all last year at MSU and is still learning the position, and has huge upside IMO.
Chances are he won’t have the best NFL career among his HS teammates. Cal Halladay started all last year at MSU and is still learning the position, and has huge upside IMO.
This is the point. He spurned PSU it seemed mostly because Shorter wasn't an instant success. Then he went to Ohio St and has been in the witness protection program.
I think shorter would have worked out OK if he was patient. He wasn't and went to Florida where they basically made him be patient. He's an adequate starter there but certainly had been over-rated in HS because he is average in college.
Fleming on the other hand is good enough to have been a star receiver at 95% of power 5 programs over the last few years but has been buried at Ohio St. Literally had he chosen any other school, he'd be a likely 1st or 2nd round pick this year. Instead, if he ever does get on the field at Ohio St, he will be their 3rd option at best.
PSU fans are only interested because he specifically chose Ohio St because they suckered him into thinking he would find success there sooner and have since found other receivers they like better. Ohio St wins here because had he chosen PSU, Fleming would be the #1 WR and would be tearing up their secondary. Instead, no one outside of PA and Ohio has ever heard of him.
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They have 7 or 8 guys that can start at WR and 4 or 5 of them are former 5 stars. Egbuka was the top national WR in his class - as was Fleming. FYI - Fleming was scheduled to start before the injury
We dodged a bullet by him going elsewhere. I could see it now how Penn State ruins 5 star wr when in the end he just wasn’t good enough.
Agree 100%. He can go wherever he wants, but his comments about how Franklin “ruined” Justin “Cheeseburger” Shorter were unnecessary.
ND was dropping their safties and everyone else deep and determined not to let those WRs get behind them which is why OSU just pounded the ball in the 2nd half when the game was on the line. Give them credit as they took what ND was giving them. And keep in mind, maybe the nation's top receiver - that Jason Smith whatever kid - got knocked out early so they were missing 2 starters for most of the game
Stroud was fairly inaccurate yesterday, definitely an outlier in his cfb production thus far.
They were missing 2 starters because 2 went to the NFL. We don't credit Sal Wormley as a starter returning this year because he was projected to start.
ND had a solid plan. It took Day about 40 minutes to realize that and he finally adjusted. The double safety blitz Cleveland or whatever that was ended up being the worst call that did them in. ND has no WRs, and no QB to get a ball to them. Bad recipe in today's game.
Good point. By the same standards, I guess we were missing 3 of 4 starting DL last year since 3 returned from injuries and were projected starters.
But I disagree with those saying Fleming would have been chalked up as us ruining him had he come here. If he had come, he'd have been a 3rd year starter this year and a certain 1st or 2nd round pick. He is good enough at 95% of the power 5 programs just not at Ohio St. He made a poor choice and it will cost him millions of dollars.
Jaxon Smith-Njigba was a starter and most productive receiver last year and started along side Olave and Wilson. He was injured in the 1st quarter last night. Julian Fleming was going to start and was was unable to go with an injury. The kid that came in - Egbuka - is a star in the making. He was also the top national WR in his class
LOL. You've pulled this same schtick with others as well -- me included.
Fact is, we are chasing Ohio State. They are the most relevant topic of football conversation beyond our own program. Some of us actually pay attention to other programs, and can offer opinions that aren't absurd homer takes.
There's a reason why people like me and others bring up OSU and not Nebraska or Minnesota or Indiana. OSU is the obstacle between us and where we want to be. We may want to be informed on the goings on.
Your inferiority complex with OSU is understandable. But having that complex shouldn't preclude you from being at least somewhat objective about the matter. Otherwise, you sound as ridiculous as Pitt fans or Maryland fans when talking about us.
I travel all over B1G boards and comment on whatever the thread is about. Some fans are just sensitive if they don't read the things that suit them.
I've been accused of being a Nebraska fan on the Iowa boards - and vice versa. A Michigan fan on a couple of the OSU boards, a PSU fan on the Rutgers board, etc........These boards are for clean discussion, not meant so everyone has to agree on a subject
Not a Fleming homer and wish he would have played for us. But why fault a kid for trying to compete at one of the Top 5 programs in the country. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn’t. He aimed high and if it doesn’t work out hopefully he gets his degree and has a productive life.
Shorter and Fleming... what could have been but PSU WR coaching was not good in between Gattis and Stubbs. The vib wasn’t there. However, neither have amounted to much where they are. Kids today, especially 5*, need immediate gratification.
I've suspected you to be an Ohio St fan because I have never actually seen you post anything positive or complimentary of PSU, only critical and I've only seen you post positive and complimentary of Ohio St while going out of your way to make excuses for why they cannot compete with Bama and Georgia despite having equal talent.
I merely asked this rrdd because he seems to comment on Ohio St in every thread and knows their depth chart and history inside and out.
That's it and even if you are a penn St fan, what kind of fan constantly bashes your own team while getting on your knees for buckeyes?
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