Julian Fleming sightings in the OSU/ND game

[Online Persona]

It sounds like that's the problem. But if some want to go by one game stats - that was a blowout when many subs played early - you could say that Jaxon Smith-Njigba is the 4th or 5th receiver since he had only 2 catches for 33 yards and 0 TDs. Many consider him the top WR in CF. He - and Fleming - were scheduled only to play a minimum amount of time. But according to some...........

The top WR in CF? Maybe if he played for Alabama. That's what Jameson Williams had to do to get his due.

Look, I can only go by last game because Fleming has had no other opportunities. He really hasn't had opportunities since he arrived in Columbus. It's a shame because he clearly has #1 wr talent and he's mostly wasting away as an unknown at Ohio St. Any other school in the country and he'd already be a household name and be looking at a 1st or 2nd round projection for the upcoming draft. Instead he's the 6th receiving option. What a waste of talent and it's costing the kid millions.

 

[lazydave841]

But if some want to go by one game stats - that was a blowout when many subs played early - you could say that Jaxon Smith-Njigba is the 4th or 5th receiver since he had only 2 catches for 33 yards and 0 TDs.

Not the same comparison. JSN was a star last year.

 

[wolve1972]

The top WR in CF? Maybe if he played for Alabama. That's what Jameson Williams had to do to get his due.

Look, I can only go by last game because Fleming has had no other opportunities. He really hasn't had opportunities since he arrived in Columbus. It's a shame because he clearly has #1 wr talent and he's mostly wasting away as an unknown at Ohio St. Any other school in the country and he'd already be a household name and be looking at a 1st or 2nd round projection for the upcoming draft. Instead he's the 6th receiving option. What a waste of talent and it's costing the kid millions.

Now he's down to the 6th option. He just keeps sliding down your chart. Comical. There's a reason that many of the top QBs and WRs ant to play for Day / Hartline and Lincoln Riley and it all comes down to the offenses that are showcased at those schools.

And you keep talking about Fleming choosing the wrong school. It hasn't been the competition, style of offense, or coaching but injuries that have limited the kid and the main one - if I remember correctly - was a lingering shoulder injury from his high school days that carried over to OSU. So my question to you, why would the injuries suddenly disappear if he chose another school - maybe PSU?

I'm starting to realize that you're just very bitter because he's from PA and didn't choose Penn State but that happens all over the country. The kid is a Big time talent (his coaches) and if he stays healthy will make his mark at probably the #1 WR school in the country. But by then he'll be down to your 7th option

 

[Online Persona]

Now he's down to the 6th option. He just keeps sliding down your chart. Comical. There's a reason that many of the top QBs and WRs ant to play for Day / Hartline and Lincoln Riley and it all comes down to the offenses that are showcased at those schools.

And you keep talking about Fleming choosing the wrong school. It hasn't been the competition, style of offense, or coaching but injuries that have limited the kid and the main one - if I remember correctly - was a lingering shoulder injury from his high school days that carried over to OSU. So my question to you, why would the injuries suddenly disappear if he chose another school - maybe PSU?

I'm starting to realize that you're just very bitter because he's from PA and didn't choose Penn State but that happens all over the country. The kid is a Big time talent (his coaches) and if he stays healthy will make his mark at probably the #1 WR school in the country. But by then he'll be down to your 7th option

Says the Ohio St fan posing as a Michigan fan.

Look, at least be honest with yourself here. He is at best your 5th WR at the moment if healthy. He was the 6th receiving option last game which is a statistical fact.

He's been at Ohio St 3 years now and you have multiple younger wrs that you obviously like better. He has yet to even get a real opportunity and was supposedly the #7 recruit at any position 3 years ago. To my knowledge he hasn't had a single season ending injury, just nagging stuff that cost him a few games here or there.

I actually feel sorry for the kid. He made a choice that is costing him millions. Maybe he can Jameson Williams or even Joe Burrow and salvage his NFL dreams but what if he gets hurt again? Ohio St is killing his opportunity.

 

[wolve1972]

Says the Ohio St fan posing as a Michigan fan.

Look, at least be honest with yourself here. He is at best your 5th WR at the moment if healthy. He was the 6th receiving option last game which is a statistical fact.

He's been at Ohio St 3 years now and you have multiple younger wrs that you obviously like better. He has yet to even get a real opportunity and was supposedly the #7 recruit at any position 3 years ago. To my knowledge he hasn't had a single season ending injury, just nagging stuff that cost him a few games here or there.

I actually feel sorry for the kid. He made a choice that is costing him millions. Maybe he can Jameson Williams or even Joe Burrow and salvage his NFL dreams but what if he gets hurt again? Ohio St is killing his opportunity.

I'm not an OSU or Michigan fan and have been posting on this board (and the ON3 one) longer than 95% of the people on here and actually know quite a few other posters personally.

Let this sink in - Brian Hartline (OSU's WR coach) has said that Fleming has unreal WR skills and will start when healthy. I think he started with Smith-Ngigba and Harrison against Toledo - not sure as the plan was not to overextend Smith-Njigba and Fleming because of minor injuries. neither played in the 2nd half. All of this can be found on Eleven Warriors.

My question to you - why do you keep persisting that he's the 6th or so option in that WR room. And here's a news flash....LET THIS SINK IN....the 5th and 6th receivers in that loaded NFL factory WR room will still probably be playing in the NFL some day. The NFL scouts flock around Hartline and his group and know exactly who everyone of those kids are. Plus, Fleming made a decision that was best for him as an 18 or 19 year old kid - not what was best for me or you as a fan. GIVE IT UP. I wish the kid well

 

[Online Persona]

I'm not an OSU or Michigan fan and have been posting on this board (and the ON3 one) longer than 95% of the people on here and actually know quite a few other posters personally.

Let this sink in - Brian Hartline (OSU's WR coach) has said that Fleming has unreal WR skills and will start when healthy. I think he started with Smith-Ngigba and Harrison against Toledo - not sure as the plan was not to overextend Smith-Njigba and Fleming because of minor injuries. neither played in the 2nd half. All of this can be found on Eleven Warriors.

My question to you - why do you keep persisting that he's the 6th or so option in that WR room. And here's a news flash....LET THIS SINK IN....the 5th and 6th receivers in that loaded NFL factory WR room will still probably be playing in the NFL some day. The NFL scouts flock around Hartline and his group and know exactly who everyone of those kids are. Plus, Fleming made a decision that was best for him as an 18 or 19 year old kid - not what was best for me or you as a fan. GIVE IT UP. I wish the kid well

One can wish the kid well outside of one Saturday each fall and still acknowledge the obvious observation that his decision to this point has turned out extremely poorly.

He was the #7 talent at any position 3 years ago and has been completely MIA for 3 years. Again, he goes to any other school in the country including Alabama and he is a household name with a 1st or 2nd round projection right now.

You cannot honestly make the claim that it was the best decision for him when it is obvious that he has lost millions because of it. Young kids often make poor decisions and this is a very obvious example. Would you or anyone have given PSU a pass if the #7 overall player at any position had come here and been completely MIA for 3 years? Half of the threads on the board would be about how Franklin has ruined him. But because Eleven Warriors has said all is well, then I guess we have to pretend that water isn't wet.

 

[marshall23]

One can wish the kid well outside of one Saturday each fall and still acknowledge the obvious observation that his decision to this point has turned out extremely poorly.

He was the #7 talent at any position 3 years ago and has been completely MIA for 3 years. Again, he goes to any other school in the country including Alabama and he is a household name with a 1st or 2nd round projection right now.

You cannot honestly make the claim that it was the best decision for him when it is obvious that he has lost millions because of it. Young kids often make poor decisions and this is a very obvious example. Would you or anyone have given PSU a pass if the #7 overall player at any position had come here and been completely MIA for 3 years? Half of the threads on the board would be about how Franklin has ruined him. But because Eleven Warriors has said all is well, then I guess we have to pretend that water isn't wet.

You blissfully post ignoring his injuries and surgery.....and deny the fact that Fleming isn't unhappy. You then assume he would have made millions had he gone elsewhere.....once again as if anywhere but OSU would absolve him of injury. If there was a any truth to your assumptions, like hundreds of others, he'd simply have entered the portal.

 

[bourbon n blues]

Does it really matter?

 

[Online Persona]

You blissfully post ignoring his injuries and surgery.....and deny the fact that Fleming isn't unhappy. You then assume he would have made millions had he gone elsewhere.....once again as if anywhere but OSU would absolve him of injury. If there was a any truth to your assumptions, like hundreds of others, he'd simply have entered the portal.

He hasn't once had a season ending injury in 3 years. The best that we can say is that he's been injured a couple of times and missed a few games the last couple of years. That's not so different than most players. Is that really enough that he should have been completely MIA for 3 years now?

The truth is Ohio St has so much talent at his position that they don't and never did need him. Unfortunately for Julian, they had convinced him that they did. He's losing millions with his decision.

 

[marshall23]

He hasn't once had a season ending injury in 3 years. The best that we can say is that he's been injured a couple of times and missed a few games the last couple of years. That's not so different than most players. Is that really enough that he should have been completely MIA for 3 years now?

The truth is Ohio St has so much talent at his position that they don't and never did need him. Unfortunately for Julian, they had convinced him that they did. He's losing millions with his decision.

Even if it were true.....why are you so concerned?
If it's so obvious he squandered millions....why didn't he enter the portal?

 

[Online Persona]

Even if it were true.....why are you so concerned?
If it's so obvious he squandered millions....why didn't he enter the portal?

It's a message board, we discuss football. And I hate seeing all that talent wasting away, particularly a local kid.

Perhaps he didn't enter the transfer portal because he was lead to believe he'd have a bigger role? I mean we just saw Harbaugh let a 3rd year returning starter QB be elected captain and start the first game when he clearly planned to make him the backup before cupcake season ended. It appears from the outside that some staffs are willing to string guys along to keep them in reserve roles instead of portaling.

 

[SR108]

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[bourbon n blues]

I was at a picnic at Knoebel's Grove during the summer one year. I think Fleming was maybe a senior or was about to be and I was pretty sure he was solid PSU from what I've heard up to that point. Spme kid told me he was going to OSU. I'm not sure when this was exactly, but the kid was sure while many in the online world seemed to think otherwise.
So the kid decided to go to a big time football school with a good track record of placing guys in the NFL. I'm not sure where he was ranked, but top recruits aren't afraid of competition and what other factors came into play like that girlfriend situation probably factored in on it. 17-19 year old's don't usually think "what if I get hurt and fall back on the depth chart and don't get the reps" at that age.
All he needs to do is to get healthy for the combine and show scouts something and he'll probably be drafted.

Can't we let this Fleming issue go? Please? He made his choice, and it was his to make. God bless and good luck to him. And please quit bringing him up....

Yeah, I don't see the point.

 

[SR108]

Can't we let this Fleming issue go? Please? He made his choice, and it was his to make. Not the first talented PA kid to go elsewhere and he won't be the last. God bless and good luck to him. And can we all please quit bringing him up....?

 

[DUNNELLONFLBUCK]

Yes, he did account for 23 of the nearly 500 receiving yards. They had 3 other WRs go for over 100 and smith-njigba was being eased back in it seems. So is Fleming the 5th WR option now?

Never give up do ya? Dude, everyone knows you hate the Buckeyes and Fleming. Jelly. No?

 

[Online Persona]

Never give up do ya? Dude, everyone knows you hate the Buckeyes and Fleming. Jelly. No?

Every time I let it go, Buckeyes bring it back up. A buckeye brought it up this week like we were to be impressed with 23 yards receiving when you had nearly 500 as a team against a MAC team. Hint, that was still only 6th most on the team. He was the #7 talent at any position 3 years ago. His talents are being wasted.

 

[Eph97]

ESPN+ has a big article on Hartline. Fleming quoted and its apparent he signed with OSU because of Hartline.
"It's crazy," Fleming told ESPN. "Year after year after year, we're bringing in top and top and top guys. We're never really missing a step, especially with him here."

 

[MacNit07]

I'm not an OSU or Michigan fan and have been posting on this board (and the ON3 one) longer than 95% of the people on here and actually know quite a few other posters personally.

Let this sink in - Brian Hartline (OSU's WR coach) has said that Fleming has unreal WR skills and will start when healthy. I think he started with Smith-Ngigba and Harrison against Toledo - not sure as the plan was not to overextend Smith-Njigba and Fleming because of minor injuries. neither played in the 2nd half. All of this can be found on Eleven Warriors.

My question to you - why do you keep persisting that he's the 6th or so option in that WR room. And here's a news flash....LET THIS SINK IN....the 5th and 6th receivers in that loaded NFL factory WR room will still probably be playing in the NFL some day. The NFL scouts flock around Hartline and his group and know exactly who everyone of those kids are. Plus, Fleming made a decision that was best for him as an 18 or 19 year old kid - not what was best for me or you as a fan. GIVE IT UP. I wish the kid well

It’s amazing you don’t self destruct…you are a huge Ohio State fan. Perfectly fine…they are the #2 - #4 program in the country. Why not drop the charade and have an honest dialog?

 

[Online Persona]

ESPN+ has a big article on Hartline. Fleming quoted and its apparent he signed with OSU because of Hartline.
"It's crazy," Fleming told ESPN. "Year after year after year, we're bringing in top and top and top guys. We're never really missing a step, especially with him here."

He's absolutely right, they keep bringing them in. Kuddos to Fleming for moving up to the 7th leading receiving option this year so far from 8th a year ago. His observation is spot on.

 

[rrdd2021]

It’s amazing you don’t self destruct…you are a huge Ohio State fan. Perfectly fine…they are the #2 - #4 program in the country. Why not drop the charade and have an honest dialog?

No he's not. He has many faces when it comes to slamming a school. He's on all of the B1G Rivals boards (and a few independent boards) and really takes shots at OSU on several boards - especially the MGoBlog board. His antics are really comical on the Nebraska and Iowa boards as he really tries to stir the pot over on those two boards. He's had several Nebraska fans swear he's a Hawkeye in disguise and vice versa.

I'm about 99% sure his alter ego is a poster - that we all know - that strictly posts on the McAndrew ON3 board now - at least that is what 3 other posters, that I know quite well, claim. Basically, he's harmless. Oh, and he absolutely hates Harbaugh

 

[bourbon n blues]

He's absolutely right, they keep bringing them in. Kuddos to Fleming for moving up to the 7th leading receiving option this year so far from 8th a year ago. His observation is spot on.

So? You act like he's the first big recruit to get passed by on the depth chart and assume somehow if he came to PSU he'd be doing better. You do not know this.

 

[rrdd2021]

So? You act like he's the first big recruit to get passed by on the depth chart and assume somehow if he came to PSU he'd be doing better. You do not know this.

I'm on Eleven Warriors - along with this board, PSU's ON3, and MGoBlog - a ton - especially Eleven Warriors - the OSU site - and this site. Eleven Warriors is stating that Smith-Njigba and Marvin Harrison are the top two starters with Fleming and Egbuka listed as co-starters for the 3rd spot. BTW, both Fleming and Egbuka were rated the top national receivers in their classes on the 247 Composite......Smith-Njigba was a solid 5-star and Harrison (the athletic freak of the group) a high 4-star.

But the sky's the limit for Fleming if - and a big if - he can finally stay healthy - especially that shoulder injury dating back to his high school days and which he had surgery on after his freshman year at OSU. AGAIN, this goes back to high school, which makes Online Persona's claims that Fleming would have been better off somewhere else puzzling - at best. Oh, and now, he's supposedly 7th or 8th receiver - someone's just butt hurt

 

[bourbon n blues]

I'm on Eleven Warriors - along with this board, PSU's ON3, and MGoBlog - a ton - especially Eleven Warriors - the OSU site - and this site. Eleven Warriors is stating that Smith-Njigba and Marvin Harrison are the top two starters with Fleming and Egbuka listed as co-starters for the 3rd spot. BTW, both Fleming and Egbuka were rated the top national receivers in their classes on the 247 Composite......Smith-Njigba was a solid 5-star and Harrison (the athletic freak of the group) a high 4-star.

But the sky's the limit for Fleming if - and a big if - he can finally stay healthy - especially that shoulder injury dating back to his high school days and which he had surgery on after his freshman year at OSU. AGAIN, this goes back to high school, which makes Online Persona's claims that Fleming would have been better off somewhere else puzzling - at best. Oh, and now, he's supposedly 7th or 8th receiver - someone's just butt hurt

Yep, let’s say he goes to Psu, blows out his acl? Where is he then? Add in his shoulder issues and he’s worse off. My hypothetical is just that of course , but I don’t see how somehow he’s healthy and playing if he ended up at PSU.

 

[Online Persona]

Oh, and now, he's supposedly 7th or 8th receiver - someone's just butt hurt

He was th 8th receiving option last year by yards receiving and is currently the 7th. You can call him a costarter if you want. I said he was the 7th receiving threat so far this year because that is what the stats say.

So let me guess the answer your question, are you the one who is butt hurt? Is it Fleming? The guy who keeps your game stats?

 

[rrdd2021]

He was th 8th receiving option last year by yards receiving and is currently the 7th. You can call him a costarter if you want. I said he was the 7th receiving threat so far this year because that is what the stats say.

So let me guess the answer your question, are you the one who is butt hurt? Is it Fleming? The guy who keeps your game stats?

I didn't - Ryan Day and Brian Hartline did and was quoted on Eleven Warriors where I'm getting the info ------ not making it up like you. END OF STORY. So, in claiming he's the 7th and 8th option, you know more than they do?

 

[Online Persona]

I didn't - Ryan Day and Brian Hartline did and was quoted on Eleven Warriors where I'm getting the info ------ not making it up like you. END OF STORY. So, in claiming he's the 7th and 8th option, you know more than they do?

They can say it. Their statistics the last few years including this year which are not made up say otherwise.

 

[rrdd2021]

They can say it. Their statistics the last few years including this year which are not made up say otherwise.

Thank you for the confirmation. I'm sure Day and Hartline be relieved that it's OK with you.

 

[Online Persona]

Thank you for the confirmation. I'm sure Day and Hartline be relieved that it's OK with you.

They can call him their #1 wr or their #1 all time if they want. The stats tell the truth.

 

[wolve1972]

Thank you for the confirmation. I'm sure Day and Hartline be relieved that it's OK with you.

Why are you responding to him? He's the only one that thinks his claim of 6th, 7th, and 8th option for Fleming at OSU isn't just totally ridiculous. I went to their official site and Fleming is - AT WORST - 4th in season and career stats - maybe. Both Harrison and Egbuka have had their breakout parties this year because of the nagging injuries to Smith-Egbuka and Fleming. This Persona guy obviously has it in for Fleming leaving the state

 

[Online Persona]

Why are you responding to him? He's the only one that thinks his claim of 6th, 7th, and 8th option for Fleming at OSU isn't just totally ridiculous. I went to their official site and Fleming is - AT WORST - 4th in season and career stats - maybe. Both Harrison and Egbuka have had their breakout parties this year because of the nagging injuries to Smith-Egbuka and Fleming. This Persona guy obviously has it in for Fleming leaving the state

Now you are just being dishonest. Anyone can look and see that Fleming is currently the 7th highest in receiving yards this year for Ohio St. Ohio St stats

And anyone can use the drop down menu to switch from 2022 to 2021 and see that Fleming was 8th in receiving yards for Ohio St last year.

Toggle to 2020 for some real fun stats, he was 6th highest as a freshman above smith-njiba. Every year new players show up and pass him. He would have been smart to transfer a year ago as he seems to just keep losing ground.

Now you want to have your own set of different facts? And I don't get the point of lying when it is easy for anyone to look it up and see that you are lying. The stats are the stats.

 

[rrdd2021]

Now you are just being dishonest. Anyone can look and see that Fleming is currently the 7th highest in receiving yards this year for Ohio St. Ohio St stats

And anyone can use the drop down menu to switch from 2022 to 2021 and see that Fleming was 8th in receiving yards for Ohio St last year.

Toggle to 2020 for some real fun stats, he was 6th highest as a freshman above smith-njiba. Every year new players show up and pass him. He would have been smart to transfer a year ago as he seems to just keep losing ground.

Now you want to have your own set of different facts? And I don't get the point of lying when it is easy for anyone to look it up and see that you are lying. The stats are the stats.

This is hilarious. I have one last question......you know more about Fleming than the CURRENT OSU staff who claim him to be a starter? Dimwit

 

[bourbon n blues]

This is hilarious. I have one last question......you know more about Fleming than the CURRENT OSU staff who claim him to be a starter? Dimwit

He's either yanking chains or stuck in some loop where he has to be right about something silly like this. so I guess Fleming would be great at PSU, his shoulder would be better, he would make the NFL, and by going to OSU he's worse off? I'm just not following it other than he's in some loop.

 

[rrdd2021]

He's either yanking chains or stuck in some loop where he has to be right about something silly like this. so I guess Fleming would be great at PSU, his shoulder would be better, he would make the NFL, and by going to OSU he's worse off? I'm just not following it other than he's in some loop.

Yep, you said it all.

I just saw some interviews with Fleming - after the OSU-Toledo game - and he seems like a nice, humble kid that is enjoying his time at OSU. Like some have said, some kids just want to get away. I'm not sure what the story was, but it sounds like an ex-girlfriend (?) and, of course, Brian Hartline were huge influences in his decision on picking OSU over PSU.

 

[Online Persona]

He's either yanking chains or stuck in some loop where he has to be right about something silly like this. so I guess Fleming would be great at PSU, his shoulder would be better, he would make the NFL, and by going to OSU he's worse off? I'm just not following it other than he's in some loop.

Not PSU, any other school and he'd already be a household name and looking at a 1st or 2nd round projection this coming draft.

I am not making the claim that there are 6 WRs at Ohio St better than Fleming only that there are 6 players with more receiving yards this year which is an indisputable fact. There were 7 last year. Even Jameson Williams had to transfer out of there to get his shot and he was a 1st round pick and 1st team all American. These are all facts.

 

[rrdd2021]

Not PSU, any other school and he'd already be a household name and looking at a 1st or 2nd round projection this coming draft.

I am not making the claim that there are 6 WRs at Ohio St better than Fleming only that there are 6 players with more receiving yards this year which is an indisputable fact. There were 7 last year. Even Jameson Williams had to transfer out of there to get his shot and he was a 1st round pick and 1st team all American. These are all facts.

So even with his lingering shoulder injury from HS which resulted in surgery after his freshman year? Those OSU doctors-surgeons must really suck compared to other schools that could have fixed his medical issues by now. Of course, Adam Taliaferro - and his family - would probably disagree BIGTIME with you

He's a starter - named by the OSU coaching staff. End of story

Dimwit alert. Dimwit alert. Dimwit alert

 

[wolve1972]

Dimwit alert. Dimwit alert. Dimwit alert

Perfect description. Let it go. As Bourbon stated, he's just stuck in a loop and now has everybody laughing at him that reads this thread - especially whatever he's trying to prove about the yardage rant. He's obviously has it in for Fleming - bigtime - and nothing anyone can say will change that. Fleming is a starter (when healthy) and it probably eats at Online Personna. And you can bet, he's determined to get the last say in this thread

 

[bourbon n blues]

Yep, you said it all.

I just saw some interviews with Fleming - after the OSU-Toledo game - and he seems like a nice, humble kid that is enjoying his time at OSU. Like some have said, some kids just want to get away. I'm not sure what the story was, but it sounds like an ex-girlfriend (?) and, of course, Brian Hartline were huge influences in his decision on picking OSU over PSU.

I thought he was all PSU until we went to a picnic at an amusement park near where he lived. A young relative from the area said he was all in on OSU.
It was the first I heard of this , and shortly after that he was going to OSU. Kid made up his mind so I can’t criticize him for doing so .

 

[bourbon n blues]

Perfect description. Let it go. As Bourbon stated, he's just stuck in a loop and now has everybody laughing at him that reads this thread - especially whatever he's trying to prove about the yardage rant. He's obviously has it in for Fleming - bigtime - and nothing anyone can say will change that. Fleming is a starter (when healthy) and it probably eats at Online Personna. And you can bet, he's determined to get the last say in this thread

I mean we have other topics here that make more sense, why not say I think PSU surprises both UM and OSU instead of rehash a shoulda from a few years ago?

 

[wolve1972]

I thought he was all PSU until we went to a picnic at an amusement park near where he lived. A young relative from the area said he was all in on OSU.
It was the first I heard of this , and shortly after that he was going to OSU. Kid made up his mind so I can’t criticize him for doing so .

I think the type of offense also attracts different kids. It seems that PSU attracts the big-time RBs while OSU gets the WRs. Nothing wrong with either just different offenses and different strokes for different folks. And that's not to say PSU doesn't attract the WRs - and the same for OSU RBs - just not quite at the level of the other - but close

 

[Nbergbuck]

Not PSU, any other school and he'd already be a household name and looking at a 1st or 2nd round projection this coming draft.

I am not making the claim that there are 6 WRs at Ohio St better than Fleming only that there are 6 players with more receiving yards this year which is an indisputable fact. There were 7 last year. Even Jameson Williams had to transfer out of there to get his shot and he was a 1st round pick and 1st team all American. These are all facts.

Granted it is hard to get playing time at WR at OSU. Fleming's problem has been repeated injuries while in Columbus. He has the talent.