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KYPSW 2023-24

Edinboro

125 Davis TF Edwards
133 Nagao TF Jimenez
141 Bartlett Fall Brenneman
149 Kasak TF Robert's
157 Haines FALL Jaquay
165 Messenbrink Fall Kirby
174 Starocci Fall Arnold
184 Truax TF Evans
197 Brooks Fall Kilner
185 Kerk Fall Roe or Lodato
 
EDINBORO

125- Davis FALL
133- Nagao TF
141- Bartlett TF
149- Kasak TF
157- Haines FALL
165- Mesenbrink TF
174- Starocci FALL
184- Truax MD
197- Brooks TF
285- Kerkvliet FALL
 
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Edinboro

125 Davis MD
133 Nagao TF
141 Bartlett MD
149 Kasak MD
157 Haines Fall
165 Messenbrink TF
174 Starocci Fall
184 Truax MD
197 Brooks TF
HWT Kerkvliet Fall
 
Fighting Scots

125 - Davis TF
133 - Nagao TF
141 - Bartlett Fall
149 - Kasak MD
157 - Haines Fall
165 - Mesenbrink Fall
174 - Starocci Fall
184 - Truax Fall
197 - Brooks TF
285 - Kerkvliet Fall
 
Edinboro
125 Davis TF Edwards Jr
133 Nagao FALL Jimenez
141 Bartlett FALL Brenneman
149 Kasak TF Roberts
157 Haines FALL Jaquay
165 Mesenbrink TF Kirby
174 Starocci FALL Arnold
184 Truax MD Evans
197 Brooks FALL Kilner
285 Kervliet FALL any Edinboro
 
Edinboro:
125- Davis TF Edwards
133- Nagao FALL Jimenez
141- Bartlett FALL Brenneman
149- Kasak TF Roberts
157- Haines FALL Jaquay
165- Mesenbrink FALL Kirby
174- Starocci TF Arnold
184- Truax FALL Evans
197- Brooks TF Kilner
285- Kerkvliet FALL any
 
Edinboro
125
- Davis Fall
133 - Nagao Fall
141 - Bartlett Fall
149 - Kasak Fall
157 - Haines Fall
165 - Mesenbrink Fall
174 - Starocci Fall
184 - Truax Fall
197 - Brooks Fall
285 - Kerkvliet Fall

Wowee. 60-0 would be something. Our starters could do it though. Probably won't see several starters, but that's what the notes said....
 
Edinboro::

125 Davis (PSU) TF Edwards
133 Nagao (PSU) TF Jimenez
141 Bartlett (PSU) FALL Brenneman
149 Kasak (PSU) FALL Roberts
157 Haines (PSU) FALL Jaquay
165 Mesenbrink (PSU) FALL Kirby
174 Starocci (PSU) FALL Arnold
184 Truax (PSU) TF Evans
197 Brooks (PSU) TF Kilner
HWT Kerkvliet (PSU) TF Roe
Kerkvliet (PSU) TF Lodato
 
Edinboro
125 Davis tf
133 Nagao fall
141 Bartlett tf
149 Kasak fall
157 Haines fall
165 Mess fall
174 Starocci fall
184 Truax tf
197 Brooks tf
Hvy Kerkvliet fall
 
Well, what do you know? All of the matches counted on a day where we might not have expected everyone to go.

So close. Tomsc came up just one point short of the perfect score for the dual. Nice work.

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And, for the first of four moments you've been waiting for all season. Below are the final standings for the 2023-24 KYPSW Dual Meet Season.

Gumby finishes a few spots below his 2022-23 finish in eighth place. He wins that spot in a tiebreaker with the first criteria of picks. 82bordeaux makes it on the podium this year in seventh place, missing sixth in the tiebreaker with Someposter by two picks. Mvattivo finishes in fifth place. 1AA will have to change his username next year to 2AA, finishing fourth, after a 47th place finish last year. Tomsc, with his fire picks for Edinboro jumps onto the podium, after being close last year, and finishes with bronze. PSUflyfisher comes from 19th last year to the runner-up spot, and newcomer Bosox2004, bloody sock and all, leaps onto the KYPSW scene, finishing atop the podium.

Congratulations, all! If you contributed to the pool, your winnings will be in the mail soon.

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KYPSW 2023-24 B1G Portion

Description


The B1G Championships functions as a qualifier tournament for Nationals. The B1G will automatically qualify a certain number of wrestlers per weight class, based on their placing at the B1G Championships. In addition, there is a need to determine an extra place finish beyond the AQ at each weight to identify the wrestler that falls one place short of being an AQ, per one of the criteria needed to attain “Bronze Standard” for eligibility to obtain an “at-large” berth to Nationals.

Weight: AQ, Placements Determined at B1G

125: 9, 10
133: 7, 8
141: 10, 11
149: 9, 10
157: 7, 8
165: 10, 11
174: 8, 9
184: 8, 9
197: 7, 8
285: 7, 8


What You Need To Do
For each of the 10 PSU wrestlers competing at the B1G Championships, predict his:
(1) Place Finish, per the placing categories listed below for each weight class; and
(2) Total Number of Bonus Points (to the nearest half-point) scored during the tournament, EXCLUDING matches wrestled to determine AQ+1.

All predictions must be posted in this thread by 10:00 AM Eastern on Saturday, March 9th.


Placing Categories, By Weight Class

133, 197, 285: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or “DNP”
174, 184: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, or “DNP”
125, 149, 157: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, or “DNP
165: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, or “DNP
141: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, or “DNP

Scoring

For each PSU wrestler, you will be awarded “Placement Points” based on your prediction for where the wrestler places in the tournament. You will also be awarded “Bonus Points” based on your predicted number of bonus points scored by the wrestler (excluding extra matches wrestled for 9th-14th place). The scoring structure for Placement Points and Bonus Points are listed below.

Placement Points
30 points for predicting a wrestler's place finish exactly (includes the “DNP” category)
25 points for a prediction being off by 1 place
20 points for a prediction being off by 2 places
15 points for a prediction being off by 3 places
10 points for a prediction being off by 4 places
0 points for a prediction being off by 5 or more places
Note: Any "DNP" finish is considered 1 place away from the final placement position for the weight.

Bonus Points
4 points awarded for predicting a wrestler's bonus point total exactly (to the nearest half-point)
3 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 0.5 points
2 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 1.0 points
1 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 1.5 points
0 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 2.0 or more points
Note: Major Decision = 1.0 bonus points; Tech Fall = 1.5 bonus points; Fall, Medical Forfeit, Injury Default, and Disqualification = 2.0 bonus points.


The maximum attainable score under this system is 340 points. Tiebreaker criteria are (1) most placement points, (2) most “30-point” placement predictions, (3) most “25-point” placement predictions, (4) most “20-point” placement predictions, (5) most “15-point” placement predictions, (6) most “10 point” placement predictions, and (7) most Rivals or 24/7 posts.



Example Predictions/Outcomes/Scoring


Example 1. I predict Wrestler A to finish 5th and score 1.5 bonus points. Wrestler A actually places 1st and scores 2.0 bonus points. I receive 10 Placement Points (1st – 5th = -4 = 10 pts) and 3 Bonus Points (2.0 – 1.5 = 0.5 = 3 pts) for a total of 13 points for my Wrestler A weight class prediction.


Example 2. I predict Wrestler B to finish 9th in a 9 AQ weight class and score 2.0 bonus points. Wrestler B actually places 4th and scores 4.0 bonus points. I receive 0 Placement Points (4th – 9th = -5 = 0 pts) and 0 Bonus Points (4.0 – 2.0 = 2.0 = 0 pts) for a total of 0 points for my Wrestler B weight class prediction.


Example 3. I predict Wrestler C to finish “DNP” and score 0.0 bonus points in a weight class with 8 AQ. Wrestler C actually finishes 7th and scores 1.0 bonus points. I receive 20 Placement Points (7th – DNP = 2 = 20 pts) and 2 Bonus Points (1.0 – 0.0 = 1.0 = 2 pts) for a total of 22 points for my Wrestler C weight class prediction.


Example 4. I predict Wrestler D to place 9th and score 1.5 bonus points. Wrestler D actually withdraws after his first match, does not place in the top 10, and scores 0.0 bonus points. I receive 20 Placement Points (DNP – 10th = 3 = 15 pts) and 1 Bonus Point (0.0 – 1.5 = -1.5 = 1 pt) for a total of 21 points for my Wrestler D weight class prediction.



I will post a link to B1G pre-seeds when they are announced and actual seeds and brackets when they become available.


Again, all predictions must be posted in this thread by 10:00 AM Eastern on Saturday, March 9th.



Although these scores will be compiled with the Dual Season and Nationals scores to crown an overall season champion, all are welcome to join this particular event to be crowned B1G champion. Good luck!
 
125: 4, 1.0
133: 3, 1.5
141: 1, 2.0
149: 3: 1.0
157: 1, 2.0
165: 2, 2.5
174: 1, 2.5
184: 3, 1.5
197: 1, 3.0
285: 1, 3.0
 
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125- 4, 1
133-2, 1.5
141-2, 2
149- 2, 2
157- 1, 3
165- 1, 3
174- 6, 0
184- 2, 1.5
197 1, 3.5
285- 1, 2.5
 
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B1G Championships

125: 5, 2.5
133: 2, 1.5
141: 2, 1.0
149: 3, 1.5
157: 1, 2.0
165: 1, 1.5
174: 1, 1
184: 3, 2.0
197: 1, 3.0
285: 1, 3.5
 
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Big Ten Championships
125: 5, 1
133: 3, 1.5
141: 1, 0
149: 3, 1.5
157: 1, 1
165: 1, 1.5
174: 6, 1
184: 1, 2
197: 1, 3
HWT: 1, 3
 
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Big Ten Championships
125: 2, 1
133: 1, 1.5
141: 2, 1
149: 3, 1.5
157: 1, 1.5
165: 1, 2
174: 4, 0
184: 1, 2
197: 1, 3
HWT: 1, 3
 
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Big Ten Championships

125: 5, .5
133: 3, 1.5
141: 1, 1
149: 3, 1
157: 1, 1.5
165: 1, 2.5
174: 4, 0
184: 2, 1
197: 1, 2.5
HWT: 1, 2.5
 
Big Ten Championships

125: 4, 2.0
133: 2, 2.0
141: 1, 0.0
149: 3, 1
157: 1, 1.5
165: 1, 1.5
174: 4, 0
184: 3, 2
197: 1, 2.5
HWT: 1, 3
 
I have a question for pawrestlers. If Starocci has 2 quick injury defaults, how will that be scored? Will it be scored as DNP or will it be thrown out? I'm guessing as a DNP, but I thought I would check. If it counts, I'll guess that the B1G KYPSW will be significantly decided by our guess on whether he wrestles or not.
 
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I have a question for pawrestlers. If Starocci has 2 quick injury defaults, how will that be scored? Will it be scored as DNP or will it be thrown out? I'm guessing as a DNP, but I thought I would check. If it counts, I'll guess that the B1G KYPSW will be significantly decided by our guess on whether he wrestles or not.
It will be scored as DNP.

We had a similar situation in 2018, when Nolf was hurt and questionable. I should let you guys do your own homework, but he won two matches, then shut it down, finishing 6th. And, plenty of people picked 6 for him.

So, does Carter default twice? Wrestle one? Wrestle two? The whole tournament? Read Cael's tea leaves, make your best guess, and let it fly.
 
This would be easy if I knew how to watch his interviews. Where do you look for this kind of info, I can't even find where their actual weigh-in weights are before duals.

This would be easy if I knew how to watch his interviews. Where do you look for this kind of info, I can't even find where their actual weigh-in weights are before duals.
Yeah... If you find out where to find weigh in weights, please let me in on it. I have asked that question a time or two on this forum and did not get a reply.
 
B1G Championships
125: 4, 1
133: 3, 1.5
141: 3, 1
149: 3, 2
157: 1, 1
165: 1, 2
174: 1, 1
184: 1, 1
197: 1, 2.5
285: 1, 3
 
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B1G Championships

125: 4, 1.5
133: 3, 1
141: 1, 1
149: 4, 1
157: 1, 2
165: 1, 2
174: 6, 0
184: 1, 1
197: 1, 2.5
285: 1, 3
 
It will be scored as DNP.

We had a similar situation in 2018, when Nolf was hurt and questionable. I should let you guys do your own homework, but he won two matches, then shut it down, finishing 6th. And, plenty of people picked 6 for him.

So, does Carter default twice? Wrestle one? Wrestle two? The whole tournament? Read Cael's tea leaves, make your best guess, and let it fly.
I don't prefer this approach, but will go with it. The downside, it's highly likely the eventually winner will be the best of a select group that have simply guessed right on this one weight, hardly a full competition.
 
I don't prefer this approach, but will go with it. The downside, it's highly likely the eventually winner will be the best of a select group that have simply guessed right on this one weight, hardly a full competition.
I'm o.k. with anything, but, I tend to agree with you. With the uncertainty, I'd rather see 174 thrown out or given the same score for everyone.
 
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Sure, he and many others. While watching broadcasts of matches, it is common for people to comment on the wrestlers weight at weigh ins. Particularly heavy weights and other wrestlers who have moved up or down a weight class. I have also read posts on this board that mentioned what a wrestler weighed at weigh in. I just wondered if it was information that was available to anyone or just a select few ie: Jeff Byers, Sparks, Gibbons, etc.
 
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B10 Championship
125 4, 1
133 4, 1
141 1, 1
149 5, 1
157 1, 2
165 1, 1.5
174 6, 1
184 1, .5
197 1, 3
285 1, 2
 
I picked Carter at 4th. Thinking I get points either at 1st or 6th. But may change before Saturday if we know more.
 
B1G Championships

125: 2, 0
133: 1, 1
141: 1, 1.5
149: 3, 1.5
157: 1, 2
165: 1, 2.5
174: 2, 2
184: 3, 1
197: 1, 2
285: 1, 3
 
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B10 Championship
125 5, .5
133 4, .5
141 1, 1
149 5, 1
157 1, 2
165 1, 1.5
174 6, .5
184 1, .5
197 1, 2.5
285 1, 2
 
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