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Limegrover out.

Lol that's true. But hey.. provide "links"!! Like as if CJF, who happens to be the godfather to rahne's kids, is actually going to come out and rip on his best friend and make him look bad. If CJF would have even thought about saying anything like that, then the media would have had a field day with it and made CJF look bad. I mean ig CJF can throw his best friend under thw bus then what will he do to some OC who hes not that close to? That's why you won't find any "links" that states what we all already know. It's like some ppl here have made a fantasy bubble and don't want others to burst it..
You certainly do have a fantasy bubble.
 
I think you need to look in the mirror on this one...it’s you, not everyone else.
Yes, you’re right, how silly of me....Rahne getting hired for a head coaching job obviously points to Franklin not being happy with him as OC....how dumb of me. And obviously Franklin reads this board to help him make his decisions....and I live in a fantasy bubble....f’n hilarious.
 
Yes, you’re right, how silly of me....Rahne getting hired for a head coaching job obviously points to Franklin not being happy with him as OC....how dumb of me. And obviously Franklin reads this board to help him make his decisions....and I live in a fantasy bubble....f’n hilarious.

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Lol that's true. But hey.. provide "links"!! Like as if CJF, who happens to be the godfather to rahne's kids, is actually going to come out and rip on his best friend and make him look bad. If CJF would have even thought about saying anything like that, then the media would have had a field day with it and made CJF look bad. I mean ig CJF can throw his best friend under thw bus then what will he do to some OC who hes not that close to? That's why you won't find any "links" that states what we all already know. It's like some ppl here have made a fantasy bubble and don't want others to burst it..
Most of us know this, but some people like their little arguments that cannot be proven. The fact the HC said he was displeased with the offense and the OL coach and OC are gone is just an accident. I think James pushed him to take the job saying he was ready so the relationship stays intact. Franklin would never and has never tossed any coach under the bus, but apparently we need to pretend he was happy with the O this year.....when 3 games ago he clearly stated he had concerns with it.
 
Most of us know this, but some people like their little arguments that cannot be proven. The fact the HC said he was displeased with the offense and the OL coach and OC are gone is just an accident. I think James pushed him to take the job saying he was ready so the relationship stays intact. Franklin would never and has never tossed any coach under the bus, but apparently we need to pretend he was happy with the O this year.....when 3 games ago he clearly stated he had concerns with it.
I never said that wasn’t the case, I just said we don’t know if that’s the case. If Rahne would not have gotten the ODU job, my guess is he would still be our OC....why does it always have to be more than that on this board? There’s no secret agenda or anything....I just don’t think Franklin would have gotten rid of Rahne, so he may have been unhappy with the offense, but there’s nothing pointing to him thinking that he blamed Rahne.
 
Yes, you’re right, how silly of me....Rahne getting hired for a head coaching job obviously points to Franklin not being happy with him as OC....how dumb of me. And obviously Franklin reads this board to help him make his decisions....and I live in a fantasy bubble....f’n hilarious.

Not trying to take a side in your argument with others here, and I could be wrong, but I'm not sure the HC job at Old Dominion is a step up from the OC job at PSU. Looks more like a lateral move financially, perhaps with a little more job security per his HC contract. It's the intangibles of the two jobs that will likely be the difference, and we don't know what's in the mind of Rahne, so it's not possible to imply that this is a step up for him.
 
Not trying to take a side in your argument with others here, and I could be wrong, but I'm not sure the HC job at Old Dominion is a step up from the OC job at PSU. Looks more like a lateral move financially, perhaps with a little more job security per his HC contract. It's the intangibles of the two jobs that will likely be the difference, and we don't know what's in the mind of Rahne, so it's not possible to imply that this is a step up for him.
It’s also not possible to imply that he was pushed into this by Franklin, that’s all I’m saying.
 
It’s also not possible to imply that he was pushed into this by Franklin, that’s all I’m saying.
It's obvious RR was not getting it done as OC. I believe both he and CJF knew that being an OC was not a fit for RR. We may never know the details of the discussion between the two of them. But it really doesn't matter. RR was not going to be the OC in 2020. He may be a terrific HC. I hope he is.
 
It's obvious RR was not getting it done as OC. I believe both he and CJF knew that being an OC was not a fit for RR. We may never know the details of the discussion between the two of them. But it really doesn't matter. RR was not going to be the OC in 2020. He may be a terrific HC. I hope he is.

Exactly right - this should be win-win. If you like RR’s work, you should be happy as he’s gone in to be his own man and wish him luck! If you don’t like RR’s work, you should be happy that he is gone and hopeful that KC will get it done!

But it doesn’t have to be win-lose: not only happy that he is gone, but RR also has to rend his clothes, wear sack cloth, and put ashes in his head as he leaves Happy Valley.
 
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It's obvious RR was not getting it done as OC. I believe both he and CJF knew that being an OC was not a fit for RR. We may never know the details of the discussion between the two of them. But it really doesn't matter. RR was not going to be the OC in 2020. He may be a terrific HC. I hope he is.
11 win season with a first year QB, a stable of RB’s with no game experience, and a bunch of underperforming WR’s and with many of those wins coming in games where the defense was less than stellar. I would not say it was obvious he wasn’t getting it done....maybe not to the expectations of some of the PlayStation geniuses on this board, but we’ll never know how Franklin felt about it.
 
11 win season with a first year QB, a stable of RB’s with no game experience, and a bunch of underperforming WR’s and with many of those wins coming in games where the defense was less than stellar. I would not say it was obvious he wasn’t getting it done....maybe not to the expectations of some of the PlayStation geniuses on this board, but we’ll never know how Franklin felt about it.

His play calling wasn't getting it done. Total offense was not ranked in top 50. Ranked 40th in 3rd down conversation. I get that there were personnel issues but this offense underperformed at critical times. And if you want to be the first AA coach to win it all, you need to be ranked high in total offense in today's game. By the way LSU is #1 and Clemson is #3 in total offense. Also PSU was ranked 40th in 3rd down conversions. Another area RR underperformed big time. There is a lot of room for improvement. Hopefully the new OC will have more success.
 
His play calling wasn't getting it done. Total offense was not ranked in top 50. Ranked 40th in 3rd down conversation. I get that there were personnel issues but this offense underperformed at critical times. And if you want to be the first AA coach to win it all, you need to be ranked high in total offense in today's game. By the way LSU is #1 and Clemson is #3 in total offense. Also PSU was ranked 40th in 3rd down conversions. Another area RR underperformed big time. There is a lot of room for improvement. Hopefully the new OC will have more success.
He should have improvement just from the experience the players will have next year...you know something Rahne didn’t have.
 
Minnesota's WR Coach (and pass game coordinator) is calling the plays today, not OL Coach (and run game coordinator) Brian Callahan. Not sure it means anything at all other than Callahan not being in the mix to be Minnesota's new OC with KC's departure so would be more available for Penn State's OL coach though likely will be Bowen.
 
This was a good matchup for Minnesota. Auburn has a very good defense (check the scores vs everybody they played save for Bama and you will be impressed; LSU in particular), but they are not a great offense. They don't have any outstanding RBs, Nix is young (and a legacy), and the WRs are solid, but not spectacular.

If they hold on (review in progress), excellent win for that program.
 
67th is your bar. Thankful our HC has higher expectations even with his friends.
67th with a first year QB, a stable of RB’s with no experience, and a group of underperforming WR’s isn’t too bad. 11 wins is a pretty good bar.
 
He was so happy he let his OL coach go too. Good call clown. You’re a joke.
He must have really been unhappy with Moorhead too since he got him hired by MSU. And by the way Einstein, I’ve said in multiple posts the only thing we can say for sure about Franklin’s thoughts are that he was unhappy with his OL coach because he actually FIRED him...you know, unlike what happened with Rahne. Do you follow that or should I type slower?
 
Under Paterno genius.

Ah. My bad. My eyes are going bad and I can’t read the quoted stuff with contacts in (reading glasses are on my desk at work). Misunderstood what I thought you were quoting.
 
Some people cannot read tea leaves because they make idiotic stances and run them into the ground. CJF stated clearly the O wasn’t getting it done. The OL coach is fired and the OC left, but don’t read into that because somehow you might hurt this snowflake’s feelings.

Lmao. All year you ridiculed me for saying the same thing. You flip flop more than a politician.
 
10* wins

-Rahne was not the OC for the bowl.
His offense though and I’m quite certain they would have won with him since he likely would have been able to figure out they needed to run the ball a lot more than they did.
 
Nothing against Fries but his issues don’t stem from coaching. They’re physical limitations. Fries should move to guard. If he makes it to the NFL it will be at guard.
One of our issues is that most of the better prepared O line recruits have been natural guards or centers. The recruits with tackle frames have been projects that haven’t reached their projected ceiling.
 
He must have really been unhappy with Moorhead too since he got him hired by MSU. And by the way Einstein, I’ve said in multiple posts the only thing we can say for sure about Franklin’s thoughts are that he was unhappy with his OL coach because he actually FIRED him...you know, unlike what happened with Rahne. Do you follow that or should I type slower?
You dug your own hole. Most are just watching you flail around. PennstateAl
 
You. Don't. Know. That.

Pure assumption and speculation.

I've read that from you 20+ times in this thread, and then you turn around and do it?
So you’re saying he wasn’t the offensive coach the whole year and it wasn’t his offense? You’ve never coached before have you?
 
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You sure have PennstateAl. LOL
I’ve said from the start that you can’t know what Franklin was thinking and you can’t assume he pushed Rahne to go after the ODU job and that’s it. Please explain how that’s being anything like Rutgers Al.....I’ll wait.
 
So you’re saying he wasn’t the offensive coach the whole year and it wasn’t his offense? You’ve never coached before have you?

You have an issue with facts when it doesn't benefit your argument (10 wins, not 11) and you have an issue with speculation (belief of how Franklin felt about Rahne) unless you are the one doing it (Rahne assuredly calls a winning game).

Rahne was not the OC the entire year. He did not coach the bowl game. That is a fact, undisputable. It was his offensive playbook, but even that is possibly speculative (do we have a Franklin quote to back this up?) if someone wants to argue in the same manner you have.

What does my coaching background have to do with me pointing out Rahne can only take credit for 10 wins as OC? Please tell me you don't have a coaching background, because you can't even accept facts that are undisputable...
 
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