Looking forward to the Iowa line up
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125- tech Iowa 0-5
133- dec. PSU 3-5
141- md PSU 7-5
149- dec PSU 10-5
157 fall Iowa 10-11
165- dec PSU 13-11
174- MD PSU 17-11
184- Fall PSU 23-11
197- dec PSU 26-11
285- dec Iowa 26-14
If nolf would not have been hurt it would be 30-8. Not much to see compared to last night. Lots of blocking off and trying to limit damage by the guys in black. Watch out for a little guy in a green sweater- he is far more offensive than his team.
133- dec. PSU 3-5
141- md PSU 7-5
149- dec PSU 10-5
157 fall Iowa 10-11
165- dec PSU 13-11
174- MD PSU 17-11
184- Fall PSU 23-11
197- dec PSU 26-11
285- dec Iowa 26-14
If nolf would not have been hurt it would be 30-8. Not much to see compared to last night. Lots of blocking off and trying to limit damage by the guys in black. Watch out for a little guy in a green sweater- he is far more offensive than his team.
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Even before last night I thought that Nevills had begun to right the ship. He'll beat Stoll this weekend.
Duh! Fixed. PSU could certainly win 285 as well, or perhaps Stoll could be protected from injury while the ever expendable Holloway gets tossed around.
PSU 30- 10, 8 victories.... outside of 125 and 157, no contest. 285 will be the featured bout. 149 should be good but Sorensen doesn’t have the game to hang with Zain. NLee will tech and Bo will pin.
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I don't think Kuhn has a reasonable chance of beating Spencer, but I also don't think Spencer will tech him. Not after that stellar performance last night. Tomasello didn't give Carson those takedowns. Carson earned them. Maybe Lee will do it from top, but ... I like Kuhn.
And I'd still be willing to bet Zain gets bonus. Sorensen may be improved, but there has been only one match between them that was close. Otherwise Sorensen just matches up poorly (does anyone match up well?!) and Zain has the ability to hammer him.
Nevills will beat Stoll.
Iowa's dude at 133 is pretty competitive, but this should be one where Keener breaks through.
Bowman wrestles very hard in all of his matches even if he's overmatched. And he is badly overmatched. This one may look like the Minnesota meet, where Anderson wrestled very hard but still got pinned.
It's gonna be a long night for the Hawks. I expect this will be the most aggressive PSU blowout in the history of the rivalry. It will replicate what Iowa used to do to some PSU teams. Enjoy.
And I'd still be willing to bet Zain gets bonus. Sorensen may be improved, but there has been only one match between them that was close. Otherwise Sorensen just matches up poorly (does anyone match up well?!) and Zain has the ability to hammer him.
Nevills will beat Stoll.
Iowa's dude at 133 is pretty competitive, but this should be one where Keener breaks through.
Bowman wrestles very hard in all of his matches even if he's overmatched. And he is badly overmatched. This one may look like the Minnesota meet, where Anderson wrestled very hard but still got pinned.
It's gonna be a long night for the Hawks. I expect this will be the most aggressive PSU blowout in the history of the rivalry. It will replicate what Iowa used to do to some PSU teams. Enjoy.
I don't think Kuhn has a reasonable chance of beating Spencer, but I also don't think Spencer will tech him. Not after that stellar performance last night. Tomasello didn't give Carson those takedowns. Carson earned them. Maybe Lee will do it from top, but ... I like Kuhn.
And I'd still be willing to bet Zain gets bonus. Sorensen may be improved, but there has been only one match between them that was close. Otherwise Sorensen just matches up poorly (does anyone match up well?!) and Zain has the ability to hammer him.
Nevills will beat Stoll.
Iowa's dude at 133 is pretty competitive, but this should be one where Keener breaks through.
Bowman wrestles very hard in all of his matches even if he's overmatched. And he is badly overmatched. This one may look like the Minnesota meet, where Anderson wrestled very hard but still got pinned.
It's gonna be a long night for the Hawks. I expect this will be the most aggressive PSU blowout in the history of the rivalry. It will replicate what Iowa used to do to some PSU teams. Enjoy.
Could happen that way but Lee from top is not the same as NATO from top. Lee can tech ANYONE with back points from the top position. Did you watch him wrestle NCAA runnerup Lizak?
People thought that I was bold when I thought folks on here were underestimating McKenna a bit when I said that he'd give Lee a good go (I may have even said that McKenna will win; don't recall). You're even more gutsy with this one.
People thought that I was bold when I thought folks on here were underestimating McKenna a bit when I said that he'd give Lee a good go (I may have even said that McKenna will win; don't recall). You're even more gutsy with this one.
Is the bold part believing Brands will send stoll out there, or believing Nick can beat him. This match is pretty much a pickem imo.
HA! HA! I would guess that Stoll will go, but we'll see.
If Stoll takes it upper body, it's no pickem, in my view. Stoll's as good as anyone in that body lock position, if he's able to get into it.
Stoll would be a huge favorite in a Greco match, but Nick can attack legs when he wants. Stoll will push- if Nick can get to a leg with an angle he will win. No leg attack or straight on and Stoll will win.
I guess we'll see. Some tree trunks for Nevellis (sorry for the spelling butcher) to pick up for sure, when he gets in on them.
I would give Marinelli a chance against Joseph. Marinelli is 12-0 with half those wins over a ranked wrestler. He has been taken down once, his very first match against Ritchie Lewis. I know he doesn’t score a lot but he’s very difficult to takedown. Joseph is also very difficult to takedown and has better offense but I think he will give Cenzo a tough matchup.
Really, Joseph is wrestling lights out. Almost Nolflike, he plays with his food. Fearless and fast as anyone sorry that would be a crazy upset. The bull has not shown much offense in the matches I've seen. We will see Saturday. I don't see a major as the bull wrestles not to be scored upon but a dominant 2 or 3 point win would not surprise me.
I think it will be a low scoring match. I will say 5-3 Joseph. Both guys are very strong, but Joseph seems a tad bit quicker and a huge advantage in scramble situations should any arise. Much respect for the Bull as he has shown himself to be a legit contender.
125- tech Iowa 0-5 Carson need some more live wrestling. He will see Cleveland.
133- dec. PSU 3-5 Keener is starting to believe. "it's a process"
141- md PSU 7-5 Nick bounces back with a vengence.
149- md PSU11-5 No way he is even close
157 TF Iowa 11-10 too much heart from undersized Pipher to get pinned Last Iowa points
165 Dec PSU 14-10 Sorry Joseph is too good, Marinelli has great defense, offense?
174- MD PSU 18-10 Wreck Hall
184- Dec PSU 21-10 Bowman has heart. A decision is not going to suprise me.
197- Dec PSU 24-10 If Rasheed Dec if Cassar
285- dec Iowa 27-10 Nick is back
Iowa may suffer their worst loss ever and not due to lack of heart. I can actually see Happel and Bowman giving up big moves attempting to win and a Shracken Fall is always possible. Iowa has a scrappy team and I could see it closer but Penn State is pulling way for forseeable future.
133- dec. PSU 3-5 Keener is starting to believe. "it's a process"
141- md PSU 7-5 Nick bounces back with a vengence.
149- md PSU11-5 No way he is even close
157 TF Iowa 11-10 too much heart from undersized Pipher to get pinned Last Iowa points
165 Dec PSU 14-10 Sorry Joseph is too good, Marinelli has great defense, offense?
174- MD PSU 18-10 Wreck Hall
184- Dec PSU 21-10 Bowman has heart. A decision is not going to suprise me.
197- Dec PSU 24-10 If Rasheed Dec if Cassar
285- dec Iowa 27-10 Nick is back
Iowa may suffer their worst loss ever and not due to lack of heart. I can actually see Happel and Bowman giving up big moves attempting to win and a Shracken Fall is always possible. Iowa has a scrappy team and I could see it closer but Penn State is pulling way for forseeable future.
One takedown might win the Joseph v Marinelli bout. I'll go with 2, both for Joseph, and a 3-4 point win. Marinelli has great defense, but almost non-existent offense right now, with 2, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 1, and 4 point wins against top-40 competition. Averages about 1 takedown per bout, yet none for the opposition.
In a weird way I think these two guys represent the Iowa vs PSU styles in a nutshell. Loose and open vs stingy position. Joseph is way more FUN to watch.
25 - Iowa TF, 5-0 Iowa
33 - PSU Dec, 5-3 Iowa
41 - PSU Maj, 7-5 PSU
49 - PSU Maj, 11-5 PSU
57 - Iowa TF, 11-10 PSU
65 - PSU Dec, 14-10 PSU
74 - PSU Maj, 18-10 PSU
84 - PSU Fall, 24-10 PSU
97 - PSU Dec, 27-10 PSU
HW - PSU Dec, 30-10 PSU
33 - PSU Dec, 5-3 Iowa
41 - PSU Maj, 7-5 PSU
49 - PSU Maj, 11-5 PSU
57 - Iowa TF, 11-10 PSU
65 - PSU Dec, 14-10 PSU
74 - PSU Maj, 18-10 PSU
84 - PSU Fall, 24-10 PSU
97 - PSU Dec, 27-10 PSU
HW - PSU Dec, 30-10 PSU
Cenzo can simply ask Mark how to defend any of the Bull's shots. The last time they wrestled Mark gave a lesson on counters. Aside from that, Cenzo works to hard to not get a successful shot off. I have it by at least 4.
AnythIng can happen in sports, so there is always a "chance". However, anyone who thinks that Marinelli has any type of reasonable shot to beat Joseph is way off the mark.
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Well Iowa is going to get at the very least 10 points from 125/157. No way Kem doesn't get a pin. I don't see him playing the TD game like Jordan did. He will try and get the pin and most likely will. Not sure what to think of Kuhn after the NATO match. He no doubt hit a wall, but that could have happened for a number of reasons. I'll still go with a tech, but I hope like hell that I am wrong. I also doubt Sorensen will try and club Zain in the face like the Rutgers kid so the potential for a major is there because he will try and enga
I'm looking for a close-up of Perry the final 5 seconds of the match
So what would you say the spread is on this match? Assuming you were a betting man of course.
Ha!
Let me put it this way, I don't even think that Joseph will get a major or blow him out. I just think that he will be in complete control the entire match with very little threat of losing. I don't think Joseph will give up a takedown.
I see a workmanlike 7 or 8 to 3 win for Cenzo. Fair enough?
Fair enough. I think it will be a nail biter and it will come down to whether Marinelli can finish when he gets in on Cenzo’s legs. Should be a good time, looking forward to Saturday.
Maranelli has to shoot 1st to get in on his legs. Seen a couple of his matches and he scored off of counters not shooting.
we do know Iowa will not roll over and will gut out every match. A slip-up on our part could be a match here and there. I hope we perform to 'paper' (my view) and have them only win two bouts. But hey, who knows, the headlock is in Kuhn's arsenal!
Here's what I can't wait to see...
1. Who goes for us at 97
2. If Kuhn continues to show promise. I don't expect it to be close, but loved Kuhn's fight. Another throw probably too much to ask
3. Joseph v Bull. (I agree with Roar's prediction)
4. Stoll v Nevills...gonna be fun
1. Who goes for us at 97
2. If Kuhn continues to show promise. I don't expect it to be close, but loved Kuhn's fight. Another throw probably too much to ask
3. Joseph v Bull. (I agree with Roar's prediction)
4. Stoll v Nevills...gonna be fun
