Bad pass...catchable
Every QB that has ever played has missed that throw...happens multiple times a week even in the NFL.
Lots of rumors in CLE that the Browns are going to try and convince Allar to leave
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Every QB that has ever played has missed that throw...happens multiple times a week even in the NFL.
I know you're hurt, but yes. Tonight didn't change that.First round??
He will definitely be a first rounder. The NFL is littered with stupid people in charge of teams.
No... I just want one who keeps his composure when playing in big games.
He doesn’t know how to hit a receiver in tight coverage. What he thinks is “covered” looks like a wide open pass to another QB. I like Allar, but he’s closer to John Shaffer than Quinn Ewers.
Did the D throw that pick to end the game? Tie game, you have the ball, timeouts and a chance to win the game or go to OT. What can you NOT do - turn the ball over. What did Allar do - throw a pick. He was bad last night, plain and simple.
Allar played poorly last night. We all agree
Yet he played poorly and in a tie game at your own 25 with just one timeout and 30 seconds you're taking shots downfield with WRs that can't beat coverage. Not shocked it ended badly. Let's not pretend the pick game ND the ball at the 20. The defense allowed ND to run the ball to make it an easy FG.
Horrible decision...horrible throw
Like UGa against ND...Smart put his QB in a bad situation and ND took advantage. It was dumb by AK and Franklin as well. The defense blew a 10-0 lead then a 24-17 lead.
A few guys played well...Carter Durant Wheatley Warren Allen Singleton most of the OL but overall, as a team and a coaching staff, they weren't good enough. Allar was a part of that not good enough but far from alone. King played the worst game of his career as did Tracy
IMHO, no matter what he does, he needs a good sports psychologist. His biggest problem is in his head. He does not respond to pressure well. 2 interceptions at the end of the 2 biggest games.
I absolve him of much of what h happened b4 the interception. HE HAS NO OUTSIDE WEA0ONS, NO WR WHO CAN CATCH A 50/50 BALL. That makes the interceptions thrown towards Amos is a wild hair.
PS The Browns and the Giants are graveyards for good players.
Do we believe these NFL influences got inside his head before the biggest game of his career? I think so. I do think Franklin should’ve done more to calm him down and keep him grounded, but I also feel that Drew ultimately has the self responsibility to balance his emotions. The prior season he was too robotic. Next season Franklin and the QB coach are going to have a lot of work on their hands to help him find a happy median of emotion and leadership. He’s not ready for the NFL.
The kid is 20 years old. You all expect him to be a hall of fame qb. He needs more college to keep learning the game and handling the pressure. That’s why he is coming back. A lot of great qbs struggled at age 20. He improved a lot from 2023 and will be better next year. Be nice to have a wr who can run a crisp route and get open. He had a tough game last night but that happens to even the best. It took Josh Allen many years to become what he has. It’s a difficult position and maybe one of hardest in all of sports.
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I don't agree. Look at the other QBs. Nobody is playing great in the playoffs. The exception would be Howard who sucked against Oregon and Michigan in the regular season but his team is just blowing everyone off their blocks right now. NFL isn't going to make a decision based on one back throw with a minute left and to a bunch of WRs that don't run their routes or hustle.
If you look at Riley Leonard, ND's xfer QB from Duke who is 18 months older than Allar, here are his stats:
- 15 or 23 65%
- 223 yards
- 1 TD
- 2 INTs
I predict that he does not take another snap for the Browns. Possibly the worst trade in sports history. Only the Browns have the ability to do this. Again, the Browns are a big reason so many people in NE Ohio are OSU fans.
I don't buy the tOSU angle. tOSU is the only major college team in the state. And they've had sustained success. With 65,000 students, you can't go five houses in Cuhahoga and Lorain counties without finding an Alum.
In the meantime, despite perhaps being the worst franchise in the NFL for a sustained period (perhaps the Raiders are worse) they enjoy great ratings and the fans show up for every single game.
I have lived in NE Ohio since the 50's. I know many people who are not OSU alums who will readily go to an OSU game, but never a Browns game. I am one of them, though I am an OSU alum.
Yet, the Browns games are sold out even in a crappy year like this year. They are always a great visiting team because so many fans who have moved away still support the team.
I live west of CLE and I can tell you that the Browns have GREAT fan support (not me, I grew up a Steeler fan in PA). My neighbor has an orange car with personalized Browns license plates and a giant banner in his garage. Up and down the street, you'll see both tOSU and Browns flags flying all fall.
tOSU support here has nothing to do with the Browns. Just like PSU support has nothing to do with the Steelers and Eagles. By that logic, the Beav should be empty as the Eagless and Steelers both had good/great seasons.
Yes, the Browns have great support. Many long suffering fans who hang in there. Among people that I know, OSU support is affected by the dismal Browns. Perhaps it is different in your circle.
maybe. IMHO, the pro game and college game have been completely different products. I honestly don't care to ever attend an NFL game again. The fans completely suck. The players are just in that town for the money. At the same time, they try to tell you that you should be "loyal". **** that.
The college game is clearly going away but there has always been a true dedication to a university and it's brand. There is a nostalgia there from long time fans and/or alumni. There is a true love of PSU. I am not sure I know anyone who really "loves" the browns or steelers. They are more like hookers than lovers.
To me, I draw a big distinction between Allar (a kid that went to a school for a reason), Howard (a free agent portal pickup), Deshawn Watson, Wilson (Steelers) and Fields (steelers). I know which one I root for and why.
a small twist thinking about the WR’s that can’t get open.
When Warren got hurt. Who did Allar hit on a cross?
Dinkins.
Obli, Drew would have a few things going for him in terms of draft stock this year. First, his raw potential and physical gifts. Second, a thin QB class which got thinner with Carson Beck's decision to portal to Miami rather than entering the draft. Third, the desperate hunger of NFL teams for quarterbacks and willingness to take risks on the chance of finding a guy who breaks through.
Still, even before last night's game, there was mixed opinion on where he would be drafted if he were to enter this year...though it's also true that in the last several days the media buzz connected with this possibility was getting louder and louder. But some "experts" still ranked him as, like, the #5 or 6 QB prospect on the board, and if I'm not mistaken, Mel Kiper put him pretty far down his own list.
I think Drew did not help his cause last night. I don't think there's much chance he'll enter now. And honestly, if he did, I think he'd be eaten alive in the NFL.
I think Drew had a pretty bad game against Notre Dame. Riley Leonard, who also didn't exactly light it up and who's projected to be, like, a 4th round draft pick had a better game in my view even with the two interceptions. Keep in mind that it wasn't just the dagger INT at the end. His numbers sucked. He missed throws. And he was bailed out twice by flags on what would otherwise have been backbreaking picks in the end zone.
In short, he didn't get it done. Like I said in another post, it's not all on him. I mean, zero catches by your wide receivers in a game of that magnitude is pretty damning.
In any case, over the last two years, I think Drew has had his moments. He's had some good games. He's made some throws where you say, yeah, here's the 5-star talent on display. But it's been inconsistent. And his form has often been flawed. And in several what you'd call big games, none bigger than last night, he's come up short.
I'm not looking to run the guy down or dump shit on him. He sure as hell has accomplished more on a football field than I ever did or could. But there's no sense trying to sugar-coat the reality either. Drew will not enter the draft this year...and he shouldn't. Anyway, that's just my opinion.
To prove this point, Troy Aikman had twice as many interceptions as touchdowns his rookie season. Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions as a rookie.
I agree. But in the end, Drew has what cannot be taught....a cannon for an arm and physical size/strength. You take a look at people like Mahomes and Josh Allen. Mahomes wasn't a great college QB but had tremendous physical skills. Allen in Buffalo, played for Reedly and Wyoming colleges. I mean, how can you evaluate that other than he was big, fast and stong?
I don't think the NFL is going to judge him on one game. And I don't think they are going to fault him for one season, for the most part. It is clear that his WR corp is marginal. Most probably feel he hasn't gotten the best coaching. And clearly the NCAA limits the time a college kid can practice. The NFL is a whole new game that playing in college helps, but when you've played at Wyoming and become all - pro, certainly isn't the be all, end all.
Plus, there QB class this year is weak compared to previous years. The best of the bunch is CO's Sanders at 6'2" and 215 with Cam Ward who is almost the exact same size. Neither of them won all their games. Their stats aren't better than Allars
completion percentage, TDs and INTs
- Allar. 66.5, 24, 8
- Ward. 67, 39, 7
- Sanders. 74, 37, 10
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