MBB tread ACC challenge GT up 8-7 after about 4 min.
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GT up by 1 with 5 left in the first half. Stevens and Garner carrying the scoring. Both teams shooting poorly.
PSU has shown flashes of brilliance but also sloppy play for lengthy periods of time; I guess this is what to be expected from such a young team. Josh Reaves is not looking good at all so he must still be hurting or hasn't gotten his sea legs back yet.
PSU wins 67-60 Very sloppy. This team has players but are still finding their way. Garner with 17.
This was a good win because GT is a quality opponent. The game wasn't overly sloppy. There was a lot of good defense in this game; Penn State played some great team defense. Be happy with this win. The team showed some great moments at times. Mistakes were minimized in this game.
I didn't think it was all that sloppy either. Made some clutch shots down the stretch, played some really good defense when needed, and hit some key free throws. All in all a pretty good outing.
Georgia Tech will be pretty brutal this year, and will struggle to win more than 3-4 games in the ACC. Regardless, any win at this point is a good thing for us. It was certainly a game that we could have lost had we not cleaned things up a bit down the stretch.
Really? GT will be one of the four worst teams in the ACC and not smell post season. Very sloppy effort. A win is a win but take the glasses off if you think this is a quality opponent.
They were 21-15 last year. 8-10 in conference play. Went to the NIT and were knocked out in the quarterfinals. That's not too shabby.
If I take off my glasses, as you suggested, I may not have been able to see those stats.
They also have a new coach and lost almost 60 ppg in production from last year's team.
Eight games in 18 days is tough. The team looked a bit tired but fought through it and gutted out a victory. They will keep getting better as the season moves on. This OOC schedule is fairly challenging which I think will help when we hit conference play.
Thanks for the history lesson but what does last year have to do with anything and more specifically my post? Answer is nothing. Make a deal with you. Check back with me after February 1st and let me know if GT cracks the top 90. That's generously calling GT a quality win. To me a quality win is what the committee looks at 40-60 but I'll stretch it out just for you. Also stop looking at the NIT like that's a standard of acceptable achievement. The baby step routine some of you promote is a joke in college basketball. The basketball team is progressing but you can't sugar coat losing to Albany and support the baby step growth concept at the same time for a coach that's been here this long. I love Pat but he needs to take real tangible steps over the next two or three years in the form of winning.
I suggest changing those glasses to ones that look forward and not backwards
Thanks for doing the leg work. Some of these guys just post what they hope and wish and ignore facts.
Well let me say that the NIT, whether you like the tournament or not, does pick only teams that have shown some level of success during the year. I'm not saying that the NIT in any way compares with the NCAA; but there are some teams that play in the NIT that come from good conferences and play a good caliber of ball. I'm pretty certain that just about every NIT team has at least a .500 record.
Secondly, you talk about the loss to Albany as if it's the end to a good season. Give me a break. There's over 30+ games left to play after the Albany game. Our team has 4-5 key guys, playing many minutes, that had never worn a PS uniform before that first game. We weren't blown out by Albany. It was a close game.
And lastly, you said: "I love Pat but he needs to take real tangible steps over the next two or three years in the form of winning." I actually like this statement and totally agree with your sentiments.
But, by criticizing the team at this point, with their decent record, and with the unprecedented level of difficulty of competition that we've faced so far; it is just unfair and not warranted right now.
This program has been restarted from scratch under Chambers. We were continually one of the bottom 1,2 or 3 teams in the BIG for a long, long time. I don't see us that way any longer. Be patient and at least wait for BIG play before you start criticizing. I think the team has a good chance of being .500 or better in BIG play. Now, maybe that's not enough of an improvement for you; but it certainly would be for me and for many of our fans.
Will GT be great? No, but still a solid win. GT has no depth but their 1st five ore good. They will wear down as teh season goes on in teh ACC. Lammers lead the nation in blocks and Watkins out played him, I do think thats huge that Watkins becomes a force. Carr had his worst offensive game so far but still is looking to be a high quality PG. Only concern was early D letting #12 get open for so many 3's.
Anyone that thinks Pat Chambers' job security should be in question at Penn State is clueless.
It took years of hard work to get these kinds of recruits to Penn State and then we fire him when the players arrive?
You fire Pat Chambers Penn State basketball will be a total dumpster fire from now until forever.
We live in a culture now where everyone thinks the answer to everything is firing the coach. I can tell you that is not the answer at Penn State. We are finally recruiting at a Big Ten level, but these kids still need time to develop and shouldn't have to deliver overnight just because Pat Chambers has already been here for 5 years. When has Chambers ever had a roster anyone predicted to do anything?
Pat Chambers inherited one of the most difficult jobs at the major conference level. Unfortunately the fan support is still a joke.
He still doesn't have a roster predicted to do anything. Most of the previews I read have PSU picked to finish 13th in the Big. Hopefully that doesn't happen but you asked when has Chambers ever had a roster predicted to do anything. Obviously his recruiting still isn't generating much hype.
I'm not trying to disagree with any of what you're saying in fact I do agree with what you've said. But, these predictors and prognosticators usually just look at the previous year and play it safe with their predictions and picks.
Penn State basketball will not get any outside respect until they earn it with their record. But any casual fan can certainly see the improvements that the team has made. We always talk about being patient. Well, we even need to be patient with the so called experts; because 90% of these people will not go out on a limb for Penn State. But that doesn't mean that the team and Chambers are not making strides of improvement.
Lets see what happens these next 5 before Christmas. Wright State, Mason and Morgan should be W's. Pitt should be an L. St Johns just lost to Delaware St last night and lost their last 5. It SHOULD be a PSU win but it is in NYC and maybe this was their wake up call. to win 4 of 5 would be good, 3 of 5 would be ehhh and less than that is unacceptable.
I wouldnt speak for our fans. They can post for themselves really. I was looking at a little better play in some of our games. Losing to Albany. Total joke man! Beating Duquesne by 8? Seriously they are awful. Getting trashed by Cinci. You misrepresented my post. I'm not really criticizing as much as disappointed a bit. Of course there is an entire conference schedule and some OCC left but why have an opinion site if you can't analyze as we go. If that's the case no posts until March I guess.
What makes you think we lose to Pitt? They suck. Maryland is overrated and came all the way back in the 2nd half after being down like 26 points. Pitt got lucky. They suck and I expect us to beat them soundly.
Well let's just say that I respect your opinion but we obviously disagree on some points.
I think Michigan State, with Izzo, is 4-4 right now. Would you be bailing out on them if they were your guys?
Are you comparing anything Michigan st hoops with anything Penn St hoops? If the answer is yes please save yourself and jump!
I saw some of their Maryland game and some of their SMU game. They are a two man team and the rest of the team is horrible. Their coach sucks too. Penn St easy 10-14 point win. Expectations for our squad is low around here! Why? Youth is king in college hoops if you land the right ones. We need to beat teams like Pitt that are ranked at the end of the day in the 60-80 range. If we don't have that expectation then Chambers and our hoops should be considered basic entertainment and off season filler til Spring practice. Staff has been here long enough to expect a top 60-75 team. Anything other than an 18-20 win season is awful IMHO.
Well that's my point. Everyone knows they're great, yet they've lost 4 games already. You're bellyaching about our 1 loss to Albany as if it's the end to our season.
I highly doubt that the MSU fans are jumping off bridges right now. lol
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