McSorley/Stevens
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I understand the logic but coaches aren't going to bench the senior or take away reps to allow the younger QB to play unless the starting QB isn't getting the job done. Trace isn't going to sit and Stevens is only going to get the reps in his package unless there's an injury. It is what it is.
And, my $0.02 worth is this; the heir apparent shouldn't automatically be Stevens. Clifford will battle him over the winter and spring ball for the position. Just MHO, but I think Clifford will offer a serious challenge. May the better man win.
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The OP's ability to reason.
Trace’s career winding down should have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with ANYONE’S playing time.
BUT
like every other position (at least in theory), you play until someone better can take your place.
Trace has been a very ave QB the last three games. He’s due for a good, very good or maybe even an elite game.....hopefully this Sat will be THE game he and all of us have been looking for!
BUT
like every other position (at least in theory), you play until someone better can take your place.
Trace has been a very ave QB the last three games. He’s due for a good, very good or maybe even an elite game.....hopefully this Sat will be THE game he and all of us have been looking for!
Has anyone heard how his knee is doing? Those types of injuries are more troublesome the morning after. Is he even practicing?
Just watched a tape of him and he said he's fine
Suspect someone should have to shoot Trace and put him down to keep him from playing this week. (That said, have not yet read or listened to Franklin’s PC today......)
What does that have to do with the price of beans?
Now that Tom Brady's NFL career is winding down, Brian Hoyer should be getting the majority of the reps for the Patriots.
You're not alone on this. It's going to be an interesting battle and I wouldn't rule out the incoming kids either.
It was extremely close coming out of camp the one year.
Stevens has never been given an equal opportunity to prove it in games.
No wonder why it is not even close.
Your analogy is skewed sir.
Respectfully.
I believe he is no longer playing due to shoulder issues.
Trace would not accept injury keeping him down. JF would have to make judgment that Tommy can be more effective than an injured Trace. Very similar to Green Bay when #4 got hurt in the playoffs and the backup came in and played reasonably good - certainly better than an injured starter. #4 was back in the lineup pretty fast - still not 100% and it cost Green Bay the next game. it is natural on teams that do not routinely sub QBs to insure backups ready. That is one reason that Spurrier says he makes rotations to hot hand - it keeps the backups ready. every coach is different, but where you have situation where the starter stays in games very late even in blowouts, you will have this kind of situation. we have not seen enough of Tommy to know how he will be at QB. i would say he appears to be faster and a stronger runner than Trace, but not as adept in the pocket. he clearly can throw the long ball and had touch in the Indy game. Clifford we have even less on as he has been in major mop up duty so his throws were under no pressure. i don't think he is close to either Trace or Tommy as a runner.
But it wasn't the same coming out of camp - TM won.
As a result, he gets most reps in practice, why should the guy getting fewer 1st team reps be given equal opportunity? Only one can be the starter.
This topic is like using a fullback
and QB under center. It’s Trace. He’s PS’s best QB ever .
The usual amount which is none to some.
and QB under center. It’s Trace. He’s PS’s best QB ever .
The usual amount which is none to some.
Ah, CJF SAID it was very close.
I'll take coaches word.
And, while only one can be the starter, of course the guy with the fewer reps would not be given an equal opportunity; all things being equal.
You keep justifying your belief with slanted logic to support your premise.
Skewed sir.
Different era and you know that.
Ty Detmer is BYU's Career and Single Season passing leader yet he can't hold a candle to Jim McMahon when it comes to great QB's.
I'll take Chuck Burkhardt, Chuck Fusina, John Shaffer, Kerry Collins and Todd Blackledge any day over Trace McSorley.
If you take coaches word then maybe listen to him when he speaks of Trace and give it a rest
Are you serious? This absurd myth college coaches write off seasons or play for next year is right up there with the Unicorn.
Skewed, how about context. It’s 2018, how in heaven could Fusina or Burkhardt( magnificent game managers ) or a lead foot like Shaffer ever effectively run this offense? I know it may pain you but the era of fullback plunges, tight line splits and living and dying by your defense and field position are over. And before the wolves attack, no one admired Joe more than me. Blackledge and Collins were great PSU quarterbacks, and I loved them, but I doubt their effectiveness today would be as significant as it was “ back in the day “.
I agree. Grant it, it’s a very small sample, but TS doesn’t appear to be a terribly accurate passer compared to Clifford. I know his teammates love him, but I really hope the staff makes it a legitimate competition next spring and doesn’t just hand the reigns over to Tommy just because he waited his turn.
I'm not talking about just 'today'.
But, yes, they would be GREAT today given equal chance.
Chuck Burkhardt would still go undefeated.
Respectively.
Nice to see I got the juices and passions flowing.
Discussion is good food.
I think you would agree that their were many a game, over the last 3 years, where/when he could have played Stevens soooo much more in games already decided but did not.
This very board even discussed it as a Franklin short coming; me included.
You know Glove....... when other folks said you were a F^cking Moron, I used to defend you.
But if that’s your take, from now on I think I’ll just tell them that I don’t think you F^ck.
All prior QB's listed by me were great leaders.
Please continue to support me.
Free beer afterwards!!
I think that prior WR's and a certain TE, helped a QB out with the athletic ability years prior and that is missing this year.
Stevens is an equal warrior.
Would you take them with the same OLine Trace has had?
All of it. No, a third of it with Clifford getting ta third and the ball boy getting the last third. One never knows? Seriously?
Glov,
Gotta hand it to you. You are opinionated and you stick to your opinions.
But on the one hand, you mention different eras (and you know that). But then come back with QB's from three eras (at least) ago that you'd rather see ahead of Trace.
In another post, you mention that you trust what the coach says about how even the two QBs were coming out of camp. But you don't trust the coach when he says Trace is the best player in all of college football?
Good day to you sir, and I look forward to your response. I'm sure it will be outstanding.
