Midlands Discussion Thread

[KCLion]

If 149 is virtually a tie in the room, I want the wrestler who wrestles an up temp style. It's pretty clear to me who that wrestler is and hope he gets more of a shot to show what he can do. Pushing the pace can make all the difference in some matches and also gives you more of an opportunity to catch someone for bonus points. We will need as many points as possible from this weight at Nationals to win it.

If I wanted to watch PSU wrestlers in 2-1 matches I'd watch reruns of matches from the Sunderland years.

I wonder how well Pipher (if he can make 149 comfortably and Berge is healthy) performs vs Gardner or Verk?

 

[tomsc]

Amazed that DeSanto broke out of that first period cradle, which looked pretty tight. Thought that Gross was gonna deck him with that.

DeSanto is an extremely high energy wrestler, and he can generate a lot of power with his explosions. I thought he would get decked too; give credit to DeSanto, very few would have gotten out of that cradle!

 

[RoarLions1]

Before that bout, his best win was 3-2 over #65 (WrestleStat), and he has two losses. One is against #30, the other is against a wrestler from Grand View, an NAIA School. Odds are he would not be a point scorer at NCAA's, and before that, is an unlikely qualifier.

You meant to say before this tournament, not this bout. Well, at least I think you did, maybe you didn't.
In his last three matches he has beaten (per Flo) #11, #19 and #21. He is going to finish ahead of (per Flo) #9, #12 and #13.
To me he looks like a talented true freshman in the middle of a steep learning curve.
But hey, mine is just an opinion.

Opinion-away, mine is just an opposing view. It's body-of-work to me, and while his future is bright, young Assad lost to the back-up from D2 Maryville, and a guy from NAIA Grand View, who's ranked #8 in the NAIA national rankings. Seems Wilcke or Brands are the easy choices for the Hawks for 2020, that's all. 2021 and after are entirely different discussions. Right now, 184 does not look like a big point-getter for the Hawks, though low-AA, with the way brackets fall sometimes, is a possibility.

 

[minnhawkeye]

Wilcke should have the spot ..Brands is no way a 184 really should be 174 or maybe even 165. Just have to go with the sr and hope he will learn to open up but I believe it when I see it happen.

 

[nitlion6]

Opinion-away, mine is just an opposing view. It's body-of-work to me, and while his future is bright, young Assad lost to the back-up from D2 Maryville, and a guy from NAIA Grand View, who's ranked #8 in the NAIA national rankings. Seems Wilcke or Brands are the easy choices for the Hawks for 2020, that's all. 2021 and after are entirely different discussions. Right now, 184 does not look like a big point-getter for the Hawks, though low-AA, with the way brackets fall sometimes, is a possibility.

I did not say it was a big point getter. I said if the Hawks are all in, Assad should be the 184 pounder.

Who knows, maybe he gets there and goes 0 - 2, maybe he squeezes into the top 8 and adds 6 points or so. Based on memory the year the Nits won by 4 over Okie St. Conaway earned 3.5 pts as a non placer and Andrew Alton added 2.5.

One needs not be the big point getter to always be the difference maker.

 

[seeyajohn]

In the third place match at 133 Sebastian Rivera appeared to medically default to Piatrowski while leading 5-4 in the second, with the only apparent problem being a nose bleed. Thus, dropping his record to 7-2. Anyone know the story there?

 

[hawkssox1]

What a dueshebag. Can't wait for him to get beat. I bet he loses it and gets suspended. He's a loose cannon is is an accident waiting to happen

LOL!!

 

[hawkssox1]

Lee avoids Glory twice this year now.

That is some funny stuff he has been a little busy winning in Texas ask Tomasello,Arujan and Cruz how they feel?

 

[hawkssox1]

I'm sure Iowa fans don't want to hear it, but this is the weakest Midlands field in years, isn't it?

Why no Scuffle?

 

[hawkssox1]

Terry’s elevator skips a few floors.

He wont "skip"Minneapolis.

 

[bigs22]

Why no Scuffle?

He wont "skip"Minneapolis.

That is some funny stuff he has been a little busy winning in Texas ask Tomasello,Arujan and Cruz how they feel?

 

[CholleyVandine]

I wonder how well Pipher (if he can make 149 comfortably and Berge is healthy) performs vs Gardner or Verk?

Verk beat him 22-6 when they wrestled in Binghamton two years ago. I don’t think he’s ever wrestled Gardner outside the room.

 

[js8793]

Respectfully don’t go there. Cunningham is the most tactical and level headed person you will ever meet in this sport.

Tons of respect for Cunningham. One of the best in the games. I've heard him work some refs pretty good. Same for Cael. Being "level headed" and letting the officials know you think they're being stupid are not mutually exclusive. Does everyone here remember that big ten network classic when Cael questioned an official at the head table and opened his argument with something along the lines of "you completely screwed up the dual last week and now you're screwing this one up too"?

The one match that always comes to mind was an early Ed Ruth freestyle match. They screwed up some exposure calls and Cunningham's comments from the corner were hilarious. They weren't angry or vitriolic. They had the tone of a very disappointed father which I found effective and hilarious. My comment wasn't meant to draw a false equivalence between Cael and Casey and the Brands bros. Every coach I hear in the corner works the refs and I know if I even said a fraction of the things a college coach says at the high school level, I'd lose team points every time.

 

[js8793]

Be sure to let us know when Casey touches a ref during live action.

Your head coach was ejected from the 2017 trials for hitting an official with a challenge cube, a towel, and then tossing a chair on stage.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/...d-chair-and-is-ejected-from-world-team-trials

 

[mvattivo]

A friend of mine who has sat at the tables at Nationals for many years, said that no one is worse with whining to/at the officials than John Smith and the Oklahoma St. crew.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Your head coach was ejected from the 2017 trials for hitting an official with a challenge cube, a towel, and then tossing a chair on stage.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/...d-chair-and-is-ejected-from-world-team-trials

While this is true, the conversation was about Casey, and you moved the goalpost to an entirely different stadium.

 

[86PSUPaul]

While this is true, the conversation was about Casey, and you moved the goalpost to an entirely different stadium.

Plus that happened one time, versus the constant behavior of the Brand brothers...

 

[dunkej01]

Plus that happened one time, versus the constant behavior of the Brand brothers...

Brands hamster dance > Carl chair toss

 

[dbldoofus]

Brands hamster dance > Carl chair toss

I'd be mad too if someone took my Lucky Charms ....

 

[GantryZ]

A friend of mine who has sat at the tables at Nationals for many years, said that no one is worse with whining to/at the officials than John Smith and the Oklahoma St. crew.

I agree, but Zeke Jones and company are nipping at his heels.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Your head coach was ejected from the 2017 trials for hitting an official with a challenge cube, a towel, and then tossing a chair on stage.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/...d-chair-and-is-ejected-from-world-team-trials

Cael’s chair toss is the equivalent of Andy McCulley’s defeat of Bo Nickal

 

[js8793]

While this is true, the conversation was about Casey, and you moved the goalpost to an entirely different stadium.

While this is true, my comment was not a diss on Casey, who is one of my favorite coaches in the country, and posters on here took it as an opportunity to bash the Brands Bros, who my post was also not about.

 

[js8793]

Cael’s chair toss is the equivalent of Andy McCulley’s defeat of Bo Nickal

Something that happened on video?

 

[CropDuster507]

There's a reason I tell my families to film from the stands or buy the trackcast. Nobody wants to show little Johnny wrestling in 9th grade FS State with "you gotta be #&@*ing kidding me, ref!" or "You shoulda went to work so only 1 job had to compensate your shitty effort today!" in the background at his graduation party.

 

[Aardvark86]

Either/both of the brands bros are like those toy monkeys that clang the cymbals.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Something that happened on video?

An extremely rare meteor hitting the earth moment that is disingenuously used to supposedly show a pattern in order to support one’s Whataboutism

 

[dunkej01]

While this is true, my comment was not a diss on Casey, who is one of my favorite coaches in the country, and posters on here took it as an opportunity to bash the Brands Bros, who my post was also not about.

So you dissed our HC by moving the goalposts and didnt expect to get a boomerang back?

Interesting.

 

[PSU Mike]

So you dissed our HC by moving the goalposts and didnt expect to get a boomerang back?

Interesting.

C’mon, you never made the mistake of farting in your waders?

 

[El-Jefe]

While this is true, my comment was not a diss on Casey, who is one of my favorite coaches in the country, and posters on here took it as an opportunity to bash the Brands Bros, who my post was also not about.

That's rich considering your post about Casey was in response to a comment about Terry.
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/midlands-discussion-thread.256834/page-7#post-4586623

 

[diggerpup]

My favorite is during Big Tens a few years ago, when Heflin was wrestling (stalling) McIntosh.

Cael could be clear heard telling the ref:

“You’re killing our sport.”

 

[jtothemfp]

Cassioppi & Isley up now.

Isley w/ quick low double for 2. Escape Cass, 2-1. Isley in deep on blast single, converts after a scramble, 4-1. Escape Cass, 4-2. Cass TD in closing 10
secs, 4-4.

Cass escapes to start 2nd, now up 5-4. Isley has some man size, will be interesting to see if his lungs hold up . . . and then a TD for Cass, 7-4. Cass flattens him out on restart, but Isley evetually powers up for an escape. Period ends 7-5, Cass with 0:29 RT.

Isley chooses neutral. Backfire -- Cass with TD, goes up 9-5. Now over a minute on RT. Isley gassing, stall point to Cass, 10-5. Time expires just as Cass puts Isley to back. 11-5 final score.

I like reading these pbp's, days after I watched a bout. Good stuff, slush. Isley looked to have every bit the offense to hang with Cassioppi, but giving up that TD at the end of the first set the stage for showing us he does not have the tank.

 

[js8793]

That's rich considering your post about Casey was in response to a comment about Terry.
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/midlands-discussion-thread.256834/page-7#post-4586623

I ended my comment with "lol" I think it was clear I wasn't trying to imply Casey was crossing a line at any point, and have stated my admiration for him many times on this board. You guys are so sensitive.