Midlands Discussion Thread

[dunkej01]

Yes.

so much so that BTN is showing

5-6p wrestling in 60 but not midlands
6-630p the big tens best
630-730p michigan football classic
730-800p the big show
8-830p big show repeat
830-9 big show repeat
9-930 big show repeat
930-10 big show repeat
10-11 wrestling in 60 but not midlands

 

[El-Jefe]

I missed that one, but saw a couple
of Hokit's other matches. Yeah, he is small for the weight. Seems athletic enough to dominate a lot of guys, but I doubt he can do much with the big heavies that have talent to match.

He has one edge over them: very few heavies are used to someone taking the fight to them, anywhere near how he took the fight to Bo last year. Also very few heavies anywhere near as good as Bo.

 

[El-Jefe]

so much so that BTN is showing

5-6p wrestling in 60 but not midlands
6-630p the big tens best (Woody/Bo retrospective)
630-730p michigan football classic (Schembechler loses another Rose Bowl)
730-800p the big show (Woody/Bo retrospective)
8-830p big show repeat (Woody/Bo re-run)
830-9 big show repeat (Woody/Bo re-run)
9-930 big show repeat (Woody/Bo re-run)
930-10 big show repeat (Woody/Bo re-run)
10-11 wrestling in 60 but not midlands

Big Ten to English translations added.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

He has one edge over them: very few heavies are used to someone taking the fight to them, anywhere near how he took the fight to Bo last year. Also very few heavies anywhere near as good as Bo.

The only thing I remember him fighting was Bo trying to help him up after wrenching his head off on the way to a pin

 

[dunkej01]

they are starting finals with..........141

who would have thunk it

 

[El-Jefe]

The only thing I remember him fighting was Bo trying to help him up after wrenching his head off on the way to a pin

He definitely came after Bo hard. All 3 of Bo's takedowns were off Hokit's attacks. Ended up like Sammy Brooks, except he fought off his back once.

 

[NoVaLion2]

I agree with this from bigs22 post above:

"Unfortunately, these types of things rarely get better. Our boards are bordering on a mutually assured destruction death spiral plunging us into never ending pissing contests with wrestling discussion as a mere pretense. Okay, that’s maybe a little dramatic, but that’s how things tend to go online... Gotta love the internet!"

I've said this before, but I think we need a thread for all of the Iowa and PSU fans that derive tremendous pleasure in snarky posts, to say whatever they want, and leave the rest of this board to the majority of PSU fans who just want to talk wrestling. There are a lot of great Iowa fans and a lot of great PSU fans who love wrestling far more than one-upping someone else's post.

OMG, here's an idea... We need a button on posts that say "wrong thread", or "Off topic", or some such thing. If enough people vote the post off it gets moved to the "Snarky" thread (or some other more politically correct name). [Edit: ...realizing that this post is off topic. ]

 

[jack66]

If I were a Hawk fan I wouldn't be overly enthused.

In the semis, Lugo was the only Iowa starter who faced a top-8 wrestler. All the others met wrestlers ranked somewhere 9-20 ... guys you would typically meet in the round of 16.

Maybe they have different expectations, but over the years we've gotten a lot bonus points in the R-16. I saw a lot of low scoring matches today.

 

[NoVaLion2]

He definitely came after Bo hard. All 3 of Bo's takedowns were off Hokit's attacks. Ended up like Sammy Brooks, except he fought off his back once.

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Ffwd to 2:50 -- Bo stops the action to pull up his sock, while riding.

 

[BFosr1]

Shak can absolutely win 97 (if healthy). Such a winnable weight. Both Brucki & Warner lose.

Can’t see Shak beating Moore. Not saying Moore is unbeatable, just a bad matchup for Shak when comparing their styles.

 

[slushhead]

so much so that BTN is showing

5-6p wrestling in 60 but not midlands
6-630p the big tens best
630-730p michigan football classic
730-800p the big show
8-830p big show repeat
830-9 big show repeat
9-930 big show repeat
930-10 big show repeat
10-11 wrestling in 60 but not midlands

While I understand your quip here, it does remind me of something I was thinking about yesterday . . .

When scrolling through those same listings to figure out what really important event BTN couldn't turn down in favor of Midlands, and coming up with nothing, I recalled my initial gut reaction to the news last year that Flo was going to be able to broadcast all BTN+ streams (i.e., "Here we go, first major step toward the inevitable monopoly"). Which got me conspiracy-theorizing yesterday that the reason BTN is not televising the Midlands finals is probably because of the business deal between Flo and BTN -- not because BTN actually has something better to show.

 

[dunkej01]

If I were a Hawk fan I wouldn't be overly enthused.

In the semis, Lugo was the only Iowa starter who faced a top-8 wrestler. All the others met wrestlers ranked somewhere 9-20 ... guys you would typically meet in the round of 16.

Maybe they have different expectations, but over the years we've gotten a lot bonus points in the R-16. I saw a lot of low scoring matches today.

man, whats it like to be internet famous

 

[bowandarrow]

Can’t see Shak beating Moore. Not saying Moore is unbeatable, just a bad matchup for Shak when comparing their styles.

I agree. He's definitely the favorite.

 

[slushhead]

He has one edge over them: very few heavies are used to someone taking the fight to them, anywhere near how he took the fight to Bo last year. Also very few heavies anywhere near as good as Bo.

True, but I would put last year's Parris in that category (i.e., taking the fight to anyone), and he regularly got squashed by the big guys (at least in the 3rd period). That's kind of what I see for Hokit this season. I do think he is a legit AA threat, though.

 

[bowandarrow]

Finals Tonight:

125: #3 Pat Glory (Princeton) vs #11 Michael DeAugustino (Northwestern)

133: #1 Austin DeSanto (Iowa) vs #2 Seth Gross (Wisconsin)

141: #7 Max Murin (Iowa) vs #10 Josh Heil (Campbell)

149: #1 Austin O'Connor (North Carolina) vs #3 Pat Lugo (Iowa)

157: #8 Kaleb Young (Iowa) vs Markus Hartman (Army)

165: #2 Alex Marinelli (Iowa) vs #6 David McFadden (Virginia Tech)

174: #4 Dylan Lydy (Purdue) vs #5 Bryce Steiert (Northern Iowa)

184: #4 Taylor Lujan (Northern Iowa) vs Abe Assad (Iowa-unattached)

197: #8 Christian Brunner (Purdue) vs #14 Jay Aiello (Virginia)

285: #4 Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) vs #8 Matt Stencel (Central Michigan)

----------------
My Picks:
125: DeAgustino
133: Desanto
141: Murin
149: O'Connor
157: Young
165: Marinelli
174: Steiert
184: Lujan
197: Brunner
285: Stencel

 

[nitlion6]

Doing your best tHR poster impersonation.....last month Assad was a waste of a scholarship after a bad loss and Brands was the literal 3rd coming. Along the way neither of them has beaten $$$ and only now via a headlock Assad should lose his RS in a year they are favored going away to get the title.

that said if 184 is a flame out and PSU wins the title the 2nd guessers will be lit af on tHR.

The kid wrestles to score points. He tries offensive attacks. Tonight's match should be telling, but win or lose tonight I have liked what I have seen from the kid way more than anything from the other two.
If that makes me an HR impersonator-OK.

 

[slushhead]

man, whats it like to be internet famous

Funny thing is, its been up for over an hour over there, and no one appears to have given a Gibbons.

 

[PD4thespawn]

hopefully @wildlizard is paying attention and keeping a tally of all my good deeds

I love the last match for Abe Assad. Opened it up at the end.
At times he wrestles on his feet at the upper weights like a light guy. I dont know where he settles out with his weight but he will make an ncaa finals if not multiple.

Battles w AB could be epic

epic up to a point, of course

 

[dunkej01]

Funny thing is, its been up for over an hour over there, and no one appears to have given a Gibbons.

Yeah it's an instant classic fail.

@wildlizard will ignore and come over soon and tell us that stuff only happens one way

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

If I were a Hawk fan I wouldn't be overly enthused.

In the semis, Lugo was the only Iowa starter who faced a top-8 wrestler. All the others met wrestlers ranked somewhere 9-20 ... guys you would typically meet in the round of 16.

Maybe they have different expectations, but over the years we've gotten a lot bonus points in the R-16. I saw a lot of low scoring matches today.

Maybe in years past, but probably not in the 2019-20 season. The PSU and Iowa projected line-ups (even assuming Rasheed and Cassar get healthy) probably don't have much difference in bonus point potential this season. In fact, some might reasonably argue that Iowa has more, due to the huge disparity at 125.

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

Gross is 83% of what he used to be

Hartman, Assad and Heil all on vision quests(cue Lunatic Fringe by Red Rider)

 

[butchinmi]

Missing a winky face on that, Butch?

No, I was being serious. Cass can get careless and pinned. Seems he cleaned that up but time will tell.

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

 

[bigs22]

Gross is 83% of what he used to be

Hartman, Assad and Heil all on vision quests(cue Lunatic Fringe by Red Rider)

The way he wrestles, he needs the size advantage and he is giving it up this year to chase the Olympics. I’m never going to tell someone not to chase their dreams, but in this case it seems like both his NCAA and Olympic prospects are taking a slight hit as he plays the middle.

 

[dunkej01]

mike evans clearly not impressed with pd 1 at 141

 

[Chickenman Testa]

man, whats it like to be internet famous

What happened?

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Iowa looks good. They are having a great tournament.

 

[Nook_Shneer]

141
1st Max Murin Ebensburg, PA (Iowa) DEC Joshua Heil Brunswick, OH (Campbell), 5-3
3rd Zach Sherman Chapel Hill, NC (North Carolina) DEC Dylan Duncan Champaign, IL (Illinois), 3-2
5th Shakur Laney Athens, OH (Ohio) M FOR Tristan Moran Stillwater, OK (Wisconsin)
7th Dresden Simon Dansville, MI (Central Michigan) DEC Salvatore Profaci Washington, DC (American), 9-5

149 LBS
1st Pat Lugo Homestead, FL (Iowa) DEC Austin O'connor Pittsboro, NC (North Carolina), 8-4
3rd Max Thomsen Cedar Falls, IA (Northern Iowa) M FOR Vincent Turk Hampshire, IL (Iowa)
5th Kizhan Clarke Washington, DC (American) M FOR Jeren Glosser Eddyville, IA (Iowa)
7th Kanen Storr Ames, IA (Michigan) DEC Alec Hagan Eureka, MO (Ohio), 6-4 SV

157 LBS
1st Kaleb Young Punxsutawney, PA (Iowa) DEC Markus Hartman Barrington, IL (Army West Point), 5-3 SV
3rd Quincy Monday Chapel Hill, NC (Princeton) DEC Kendall Coleman West Lafayette, IN (Purdue), 5-3
5th Logan Parks Taylor, MI (Central Michigan) DEC Anthony Artalona Seffner, FL (Penn), 3-1 SV

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Marinelli was in full control of that match against McFadden. Not as close as 5-3 would indicate.

And what a great run by Hartman!

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

Hartman is a warrior, Brent Musberger style

 

[El-Jefe]

149 LBS
1st Pat Lugo Homestead, FL (Iowa) DEC Austin O'connor Pittsboro, NC (North Carolina), 8-4
3rd Max Thomsen Cedar Falls, IA (Northern Iowa) M FOR Vincent Turk Hampshire, IL (Iowa)
5th Kizhan Clarke Washington, DC (American) M FOR Jeren Glosser Eddyville, IA (Iowa)
7th Kanen Storr Ames, IA (Michigan) DEC Alec Hagan Eureka, MO (Ohio), 6-4 SV

The Sasso Hype Train just got a push out of the station.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

149 this year - what a shit weight.

From Zain, then Ashnault, to a bunch of plumbers

 

[Ja1339]

I'm sure Iowa fans don't want to hear it, but this is the weakest Midlands field in years, isn't it?

Not disagreeing, but as much as i enjoy throwing shade at HR for the quality of competition at Midlands, it is a lot easier when we go to the Scuffle instead of the Wilkes Open

 

[danoftw]

Hartman is a warrior, Brent Musberger style

This is cracking me up and I don't even know what it means.

 

[tikk10]

Midlands quality isn't deep but it really doesn't take away from anything from how good Iowa has looked. And while they've not exactly been capital F fun to watch, they've not been boring. They're solid or better at every weight.

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Jeez, Lujan has gumby knees.

 

[NoVaLion2]

Challenge brick rejected in the 184 match?
[Edit: I thought Assad might have had a takedown, but Brands waited way too long to challenge IMHO.]

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

This is cracking me up and I don't even know what it means.

Watch any Musberger telecast and take a shot every time he says “Warrior”. Let me know if you make it to the 2nd qtr

 

[El-Jefe]

Watch any Musberger telecast and take a shot every time he says “Warrior”. Let me know if you make it to the 2nd qtr

Musberger has a very special form of Tourettes, which causes him to blurt out BUCKEYES for no apparent reason.

 

[District four]

The Sasso Hype Train just got a push out of the station.

I'm liking our chances at 49 it's wide open