Thet live in Naperville, Ill. So out of state tuition came into play. These were her two finalists and of all the schools where she had some interest, only Penn State did not offer any scholarship funds
My niece has chosen Syracuse over Dear Old State
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Same here... SUNY ESF at Syracuse... at least I can piss on the Carrier Dome when I visit
Out-of-state tuition is not the value it once was
Yep. psu raises billions but mostly for buildings. Nobody has found a way to carve a rich person's name on a student's forehead yet unfortunately. Maybe tattoos are the answer.
Not to worry, ole, Syracuse, in the past, has graduated some very fine engineers.
One of my granddaughters that currently lives in Alabama, will be coming home to live with us or
my son for her senior year and enroll at Lake Lehman HS, then enroll at The PSU. If the Sig pic at the end of my post is working, that's Sophia, our next PSU grad of many.
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My niece just accepted a full ride to Univ. Of Maryland in their honors program. She said PSU wouldn’t give squat.
The bottom line truth is that PSU just doesn't have the money to give to attract the top level students these days, thanks to the big payouts by our illustrious BOT. Just take a look at the recent stats, and you can see how far PSU has fallen. At the rate we are going, we'll be solidly in the basement of the conference for the foreseeable future.
They are paying the bills by enrolling 40% out of state students. Dambly doesn't seem to be mentioning that at the BOT meetings.
They are paying the bills by enrolling 40% out of state students. Dambly doesn't seem to be mentioning that at the BOT meetings.
I've mentioned before, my granddaughter lives in New Jersey and was at the top of her class. She was accepted at a half dozen quality schools, including Penn State. All offered packages except PSU, despite that fact that her mom and I are both alums. She went elsewhere, graduated with honors, and has now been accepted at an Ivy League school for her masters.
It's PSU's loss, not hers. The way things are going, it's hard to recommend this place to anyone who has a lot of other strong options.
My daughter accepted an offer from Stony Brook in their PHD program over PSU and several others. It was nothing to do with money. In fact Stony Brook will be more expensive due to the cost of living. It was about the relative strength of the programs and SB’s graduate school is more highly rated in her field.
PSU probably looked at the Naperville address and said no one living there needs any scholarship money! 
Her husband took the BOT to task about academic standards many years ago. Then he got fired for BS. So there's that.Well, not to fear, we can all at least elect nine worthless tools to the Board - ‘cause Sue Paterno says so.
That’s a winning strategery.
I eagerly follow a lot of what you post Barry, and appreciate it. But the slinging of sh*t that rivals that of the recent presidential race is distasteful. It might in fact hurt your cause more than it helps.Uh..... OK..... it all makes sense then.
My son is going to Clemson, also the honors program and at the cost of instate tuition. PSU gave nothing, being from NJ would have cost us a bundle.
I hear ya. According to google, Penn State’s all in yearly cost for out of state students is $51K per year. That’s insane.
My kids are years away from college and I’ve already told them that’s off the table. It’s a shame.
Congrats to her! Did my grad work and met my wife there. Nice campus and facilities in a mid-size city.
Look at it this way, if Syracuse ever gets involved in another very real scandal, ESPN will cover it up and manufacture another fake scandal at PSU to occupy the headlines.
No kiddingPSU probably looked at the Naperville address and said no one living there needs any scholarship money!
Good for the girl on her acceptance and decision. It’s a personal choice, and Dear Old State doesn’t make as much sense as it once did.
I've got two kids who have PSU/Schreyers degrees. I have three grand-kids and I will encourage them to go somewhere else when the time comes.
Unfortunately, we are in the same boat. My son is going to attend Johns Hopkins for significantly less $$ than PSU (we're in-state). The financial aid package JH offered was light years ahead of what PSU offered.
I've shared my story before, same as yours. My son dreamed of attending Penn State, but out-of-state tuition was prohibitive and no financial aid from PSU. He went to Mizzou and is very happy there, but seeing the success of the Penn State football team does sometimes make him wonder what could have been.
it is going to be much, much cheaper for my daughter to attend the private Catholic school she has chosen than the state university. I was surprised at how little the state university offered in comparison to the other schools she applied to. She’ll be better off at the school she has chosen anyway.
When my son was college seeking, he decided he wanted to go into pharmacy. we went to a college night where there were several institutions showing what they had to offer. There was a Penn State representative there and when he asked what our interests were , he politely said they did not offer that program. His options came down to College of The Sciences in Philly, Temple, Wilkes College, and....................Pitt. He chose to stay "home" and go to Wilkes, was hired by Happy Harrys/Walgreens in Rehoboth, De and is now Dean of Pharmacy at UMES.
This is not entirely surprising. Last year Maryland received a $250 million gift specifically to support financial aid. I don't think Penn State has enough endowment dollars to hand out money like some of its peers do. The only way to get there is to raise the money.
Damn. This thread is depressing, but I'll add that my brother was accepted into PSU Honors and is now wrapping up his second year at Villanova (Computer Engineering). He's paying significantly less at the private school than he would have at the in-state public school.
I had friends from high school attend William & Mary, Virginia Tech, and Ohio State. They each told me it was less expensive (out-of-state) for them than it would have been to go to Penn State. Really just a huge disappointment.
I had friends from high school attend William & Mary, Virginia Tech, and Ohio State. They each told me it was less expensive (out-of-state) for them than it would have been to go to Penn State. Really just a huge disappointment.
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Unbelievable.
Lol. I didn't think I'd ever see a post about someone's son going to Johns Hopkins that started with "Unfortunately". Congrats to him though.
Treating their alumni with unconcealed contempt may not be the best way to encourage contributions.
Myself, my brother and sister all went to PSU. My wife, her sister and their mom went to PSU. My brothers wife went to PSU, my sister's husband went to PSU, we have 9 kids between all of us that all want to go to PSU but unfortunately I doubt any do based on the cost. Some of the students that I teach are interested in PSU based on the good experiences I share with them and many even apply but when they get aid packages they quickly rule them out. It's a damn shame what has happened in the past decade or so.
Syracuse is a fine school (I worked there years back) but I thought the campus was "meh." The main quad is kind of cool (my office overlooked the quad and I fondly recall watching the "powder puff football" practices) as is the Addam's Family building (the Hall of Languages IIRC, https://static.squarespace.com/stat...533b3ff3e4b0a5c98f737bd8/1396391923995/1000w/)
But the weather for most of the school year is awful. Downtown Syracuse was getting cooler when I was there (more bars/restaurants), but the students stick to stuff close to campus, which is also "meh" (except for Faegan's, which is a great beer bar).
Anyway, the larger point is that kids have to go where is best for them. Money certainly enters into it. But one can get a great education almost anywhere and with the right attitude have a great time while doing it.
Appreciate the info but comparing PSU to Maryland is a bit of apples to oranges without taking into account how both state governments have treated higher education funding over the last decade.
Two graphics ( a couple years old I admit) to share point to how PA has cut higher ed funding in comparison to the Maryland Gov't. In short PA cut funding for higher ed at a 5x higher rate than Maryland did and even when PA started to add funding back it was at a rate 10x less than what Maryland's gov't did.
PA comes in at -35.5% change and Maryland -6.8%.
And as far as starting to increase spending PA came in at 0.6% and Maryland 6.4%.
I'm not saying PSU is blameless in this whole thing as they have not done a good job of keeping costs in check, but you can't lay the blame entirely at their feet. In UMD has nothing remotely close to the branch campus system the PSU has developed. In essence PSU has recreated (at a smaller scale) something that resembles the PA State System of Higher Education School network such as Slippery Rock, Clarion, Kutztown etc., all while being in a quasi public/private funding structure.
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That would require self-examination that our BOT is not prepared, or is not willing, to do.
Yeah, that didn't come out quite right.
He's done very well and deserves everything he's earned. And JH is a great school, for sure. But he really liked PSU (and my wife and I are alumni), so I was a little surprised and disappointed at the disparity of aid. He's our oldest, so it was a bit of a shock to us as first-timers.
