That may very well be his plan. Im sure Jaggers is being shown as an example that you just got to make to the dance, then just let it all hang out.
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That may very well be his plan. Im sure Jaggers is being shown as an example that you just got to make to the dance, then just let it all hang out.
But if he loses to Suriano or Lee in the B1G semis, his seed at Nationals gets really damaged, maybe down to 6th. I'd think Ryan would greatly prefer to wrestle either guy in B1G finals; or at least not see both.
And yeah, Cruz may make a lot of the gamesmanship moot if they hand him the 1, making the 4 more desirable than the 2/3.
Exactly right about Jaggers; he did that both years that he won national titles, all the while getting his weight under control.
I used to have a big problem with people (allegedly) "dodging" opponents during the regular season, but I'm always reminded of what John Smith says when he says that all that matters and all that folks will recall is how one finished at the big dance.
If Tomasello, or, as Mark Ironside calls him, "Tomasellio," doesn't rassle against some tough opponents but ends up finishing high on the podium in March, his March finishes are all that we'll be discussing about him years down the road.
Part of me wants to see Tomasello miss the duals, win B10s, be undefeated and still get the 2 seed behind Cruz. Send a message to Ryan.
More of me wants him to lose earlier and somehow slip to the 6 or 7 seed and face a brutal quarters after maybe a tough round 2.
Nothing against Tomasello.
With all this inactivity, I just hope NaTo doesn’t lose anything off of his deadlift.
I get what you're saying but this discounts Lizak. He's probably less talented than Suriano or Lee but presents a challenge neither does, that would be problematic for a guy dealing with a big cut and possibly an injury.
Plus Lee did just lose to Bresser in the type of match Tomasello will give him.
Lot of truth in what you posted, problem is it does not help grow the sport. Top ten guys wrestling each other helps generate excitement. Top ten guy against a backup, not so much.
I honestly think the reason Cael encouraged Mark to wrestle the All Star Classic is that the devil you know is better. If you are ultimately the better wrestler you can only be defeated by someone surprising you with a good game plan. Loosing too Zahid was better intel for Mark than dodging him. Now Mark has all season to prepare to beat Zahid in the finals. ANY match and any outcome with a top five guy during the season will help the better wrestler in March.
That's why it was so frustrating and sobering that David Taylor couldn't overcome Dake and Nolf couldn't overcome IMar despite increasing familiarity.
The best wrestler at 125 is redshirting and we don't have a ranked wrestler there now so why even talk about this weight?
Familiarity cuts both ways. With Dake you have a world class wrestling I.Q. Paired with a pit bull soul. With IMAR it was just his year, now is the age of Nolf. As far as Mark and Zahid goes I am betting that Mark's I.Q./ice water will make the familiarity work in his favor.
Because the points from this weight will still count at nationals whether we get any or not. Anything that reduces the potential of Tosu is Good!
In retrospect, we know Dake has the IQ and the toughness. At the time, I felt *sure* Taylor would defeat him at NCAAs. I also felt *sure* that Nolf would defeat IMar. I hope it's a lucky sign that this year I do not feel *sure* that Hall will defeat Zahid. I just think Zahid is also, like Hall, an unbelievable prodigy and talent and man of destiny.
because it may have a huge impact on the team title race?
Nolf and IMAR, IMAR only won because he did not have to weigh the next day, he had all day to hydrate and get some food in him, absolutely critical in the NCAA final. Would love to see the same weigh-in rules for the NCAA finals as used for duals.
Dake and Taylor in the NCAA final. Dake used that half and tight waist to ride Taylor without any attempt to turn him with it. Refs let him get away with that and Taylor was not strong enough to overcome it. Dake is very tough, strong and powerful and that can be very hard to beat.
125 was pretty close in my mind, but with the addition of Spencer Lee, it's going to be an awfully big task for NATO to win it. Whoever wins that class this year is going to be a dog. With NATO, Spencer, Suriano, Bresser, Cruz and Lizak the quarterfinals might be as good in this class as any other. At least two of those guys are going to be in the bloodround. It's insane.
I think that IMAR actually learned a ton by losing to Nolf in the dual and that is why he won at NCAA. IMAR wrestled a much different match at NCAA as he knew he could not push the pace with Nolf for 7 minutes. So IMAR played pretty defensive for most of the match, conserving energy, just waiting for the opportune time to put all he had into one or two key shots. I'd love to see an exhibition of Nolf-Imar this year, I think Nolf has improved so much that he would beat Imar now.
For Taylor-Dake, that was tough. If they had wrestled under today's rule with stalling and not being able to just hang on in perpetuity, I wonder if Dake could have won.
For Taylor-Dake, that was tough. If they had wrestled under today's rule with stalling and not being able to just hang on in perpetuity, I wonder if Dake could have won.
I want Nato facing his toughest competition Friday night when he still has to make weight the next morning. I would think that's Suriano or Lee, but I wouldn't just write off Cruz.
I don't mean to throw shade on one of my favorite wrestlers, but it seemed that Hall was employing this same strategy last night against Kutler to great effect. I was surprised he wasn't dinged for it.
Jefe is not only playing Chess, he's playing chess while dressed as Ming the Merciless!
Wonder what El-Jefe's ELO rating is? And would anyone complain about it, if it was published?Jefe is not only playing Chess, he's playing chess while dressed as Ming the Merciless!
Don't bring me down.
It felt like more of a statement to be made about who's who in their relationship. Mark will probably meet Kutler or BoJo in the semi's. Last night seemed to be psychological warfare. "You can't get a takedown and you can't get up from bottom so....I'll see you in March"
That might also be the last legitimate shot we see Kutler take on Hall. Hopefully the refs at Nationals aren't afraid to raise their fists.
Lee should not have a problem with Nato if he wrestles in the dual. Natio has no success with Iowa wrestlers.
As for this week end can in a way see Ryans point Natio did not wrestle many matches the whole 1st semesters.
None of us know how serious the injury is so will be a test match..If having to make weight than Ryan should fine another 125 let Nato go 133 just opinion.
As for this week end can in a way see Ryans point Natio did not wrestle many matches the whole 1st semesters.
None of us know how serious the injury is so will be a test match..If having to make weight than Ryan should fine another 125 let Nato go 133 just opinion.
NaTo won't have an RPI. With only nine duals left (as of right now, including both duals this weekend), he'll come up well short of the 17 necessary to have an RPI.
Last year's results mean exactly as much for seeding as the All-Star Classic...none.
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