Agreed. it all goes back to the question I was asking back in May of 2020? "what represents a 'win' enough to get rid of all of these restrictions?"If this league has anymore extended shutdowns, there may not be a league as we know it to which to come back. That's probably hyperbole, but I have to imagine that several teams already were on the edge of financial ruin after the last two years.
Clearly, this league needs to adopt some of the revised protocols that the NFL now has adopted, or else games continually are going to be postponed and teams are going to continually be shut down.
I heard the former CDC director Redfield on Fox today, and he said that there are going to be other more contagious but less lethal strains after the current one goes away, so this is going to be an ongoing issue.
There has to be more courageous figures in all of these leagues to argue for the change in these ridiculous protocols, like the GM of the Red Wings, Steve Yzerman, and several NHL and NFL players. It's absurd to continually test players who are asymptomatic, and I'm glad that the NFL no longer is going to do that.Agreed. it all goes back to the question I was asking back in May of 2020? "what represents a 'win' enough to get rid of all of these restrictions?"
There was a prominent guy, people get upset when you use his name though, that once said "we are going to have to learn to live with it". But he was derided for this comment. Looks like he was right but "live with it" needs to be defined.
And the same pattern will probably repeat itself next year, so something has to change or we might as well just stop with life.January is going to blow with infections. It'll fizzle in February/March ike last year.
Is that the same guy who told us that "like a miracle' it will disappear"? That guy?Agreed. it all goes back to the question I was asking back in May of 2020? "what represents a 'win' enough to get rid of all of these restrictions?"
There was a prominent guy, people get upset when you use his name though, that once said "we are going to have to learn to live with it". But he was derided for this comment. Looks like he was right but "live with it" needs to be defined.
What's funny and sad at the same time is that he was no less wrong than the "preeminent" epidemiologists who have appeared on the talking head shows non-stop for the past two years, including the main one who will remain nameless. In the end, they really didn't know anything about this illness and just made a bunch of stuff up. In fact, some of the posters on this board have been more right about this illness than the so-called "experts."Is that the same guy who told us that "like a miracle' it will disappear"? That guy?
Can we please not go round this maypole again?What's funny and sad at the same time is that he was no less wrong than the "preeminent" epidemiologists who have appeared on the talking head shows non-stop for the past two years, including the main one who will remain nameless. In the end, they really didn't know anything about this illness and just made a bunch of stuff up. In fact, some of the posters on this board have been more right about this illness than the so-called "experts."
I agree, and I really didn't want to go there. I really wanted to focus on how the NHL is going to face big problems, and maybe some of its teams are going to go bankrupt, if they continually have shut downs; you don't see any other league doing that.Can we please not go round this maypole again?
Its the same damn thing and the view never changes.
You're very misinformed about the health of the NHL.If this league has anymore extended shutdowns, there may not be a league as we know it to which to come back. That's probably hyperbole, but I have to imagine that several teams already were on the edge of financial ruin after the last two years.
Clearly, this league needs to adopt some of the revised protocols that the NFL now has adopted, or else games continually are going to be postponed and teams are going to continually be shut down.
I heard the former CDC director Redfield on Fox today, and he said that there are going to be other more contagious but less lethal strains after the current one goes away, so this is going to be an ongoing issue.
Well, I did listen to Bettman's State of the Union press conference two weeks ago on the NHL Radio Network, and I know that he painted a rosy picture. However, that was predicated on not having any more shut downs, which now has happened. The NHL is a league that is much more dependent on having asses in seats that any of the other leagues. If that doesn't happen, then teams likes Arizona and Florida, if not others, are going to face serious financial repercussions.You're very misinformed about the health of the NHL.
Virtually certain at this point as I understand it.I hope NHL players skip the Olympics and they play make up games in Feb instead.
That's what probably is going to happen. I'm hearing that a decision is going to be announced later this week that the NHL players will not go to the Olympics, which never was a good idea in the first place.I hope NHL players skip the Olympics and they play make up games in Feb instead.
Probably one that’s informed by deep discussions with the medical staffs of the caps and flyers.My favorite thing of this whole mess:
"We deem it necessary to shut down operations as to protect people......but we aren't going to stop until after the games tonight"
What kind of shit is that? If it is a public health crisis then shut it down asap. Kind of like the doofus waiting until today to address the nation.....if what he had to say was so damn important then it should also have been immediate.
Well, as of last week, Montreal did not have any fans for the Thursday game against the Flyers, and the Maple Leafs and Senators are going to have to play to 50% capacity until further notice, so it's already begun.I actually think the nhl may have it about right. A one week pause over the holidays gives a bit of time for teams to “rebase” and then try to manage under their more restrictive protocols. It was starting to raise competitive concerns with key players out, and the cross border nature of the nhl makes their situation much more complicated than other sports. On top of that I’m sure the league is more than happy to use this as a reason to avoid the olympics. The three weeks gives the nhl the luxury of time that the nfl doesn’t have.
the key though is what will be their mentality on the other side of the break. I think you’re right that at some point, if these are largely asymptomatic cases, they will need to bite the bullet and plow through. And I suspect that both nhl and will be on board with that.
the harder question will eventually be fan capacity.
yeah, I m sure of that.....also a little we dont want to lose that much money discussions as well.Probably one that’s informed by deep discussions with the medical staffs of the caps and flyers.
you bring up a good point....with seven teams in Canada, and CA being maniacal regarding COVID, they had little choice but to disrupt the season in a major way.Well, as of last week, Montreal did not have any fans for the Thursday game against the Flyers, and the Maple Leafs and Senators are going to have to play to 50% capacity until further notice, so it's already begun.
The games cancelled this week will be made up when the Olympic break happens. The big issue won't be shutdowns, it would be if they had to play games with no one (or very limited people) in attendance.Well, I did listen to Bettman's State of the Union press conference two weeks ago on the NHL Radio Network, and I know that he painted a rosy picture. However, that was predicated on not having any more shut downs, which now has happened. The NHL is a league that is much more dependent on having asses in seats that any of the other leagues. If that doesn't happen, then teams likes Arizona and Florida, if not others, are going to face serious financial repercussions.
I think most states with NHL teams won’t restrict attendance. Seattle, SJ, LA, Ana, probably start restrictionsThe games cancelled this week will be made up when the Olympic break happens. The big issue won't be shutdowns, it would be if they had to play games with no one (or very limited people) in attendance.
One gam would not be material.yeah, I m sure of that.....also a little we dont want to lose that much money discussions as well.
you are probably right, but then why wait until after tonight. Again, they arent the only ones that have done this. The government is famous for "we have a huge problem and xxx will stop one week from today"One gam would not be material.
Well you got your wish. 😉you are probably right, but then why wait until after tonight. Again, they arent the only ones that have done this. The government is famous for "we have a huge problem and xxx will stop one week from today"
We'll that's not going too well either.It's absurd to continually test players who are asymptomatic, and I'm glad that the NFL no longer is going to do that.
Here is a novel idea how about all the 1d10ts just get vaccinated and boosted and just like polio , small pox , TB maybe the disease will get under control. Only 50 percent of people in my county are fully vaccinated and I know 3 unvaccinated that Died this week bring other total that I know personally to 7 Dead. None of which were vaccinated.If this league has anymore extended shutdowns, there may not be a league as we know it to which to come back. That's probably hyperbole, but I have to imagine that several teams already were on the edge of financial ruin after the last two years.
Clearly, this league needs to adopt some of the revised protocols that the NFL now has adopted, or else games continually are going to be postponed and teams are going to continually be shut down.
I heard the former CDC director Redfield on Fox today, and he said that there are going to be other more contagious but less lethal strains after the current one goes away, so this is going to be an ongoing issue.
Every nhl player save one is vaccinated.Here is a novel idea how about all the 1d10ts just get vaccinated and boosted and just like polio , small pox , TB maybe the disease will get under control. Only 50 percent of people in my county are fully vaccinated and I know 3 unvaccinated that Died this week bring other total that I know personally to 7 Dead. None of which were vaccinated.
Agreed. it all goes back to the question I was asking back in May of 2020? "what represents a 'win' enough to get rid of all of these restrictions?"
There was a prominent guy, people get upset when you use his name though, that once said "we are going to have to learn to live with it". But he was derided for this comment. Looks like he was right but "live with it" needs to be defined.
Good well by the 27th we should finally have a handle on this thing once and for all.
Effectively it will…the 1918 Flu is still with us…but we don’t go running around in a panic with every case…we use modern medicine to the best of our ability and live with it…Is that the same guy who told us that "like a miracle' it will disappear"? That guy?
And probably much of Canada. Ugh. Some cities are doing it for the states anyway with vaccine requirements. Flyers are going to see a dropoff once the vaccine requirement begins in January.I think most states with NHL teams won’t restrict attendance. Seattle, SJ, LA, Ana, probably start restrictions
Boy, you sure threw a wet blanket over him.Every nhl player save one is vaccinated.
Just think, a 100 years from now when another pandemic probably will be raging, this current virus also still be floating around just like the Spanish Influenza is now. I just hope that those people make better decisions to deal with it than what have been done for the past two years.Effectively it will…the 1918 Flu is still with us…but we don’t go running around in a panic with every case…we use modern medicine to the best of our ability and live with it…
Agreed.Just think, a 100 years from now when another pandemic probably will be raging, this current virus also still be floating around just like the Spanish Influenza is now. I just hope that those people make better decisions to deal with it than what have been done for the past two years.