No football this fall makes more and more sense.

[PearlSUJam]

Do we know which athletes have opted not to return? I think CJF said 6 scholarship players didn't come back. Obviously, their right to do so and I respect their decision; just curious.

I think it's Luketa along with other Canadians that make up 4 of the 6.

"He is one of three Canadians, alongside Theo Johnson and Jonathan Sutherland, currently listed on the Penn State roster with one more, incoming freshman Malick Meiga, set to join them when the roster is updated for the fall."

https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article243914697.html

 

[PearlSUJam]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ege-football-season-to-spring-is-very-doable/

Lincoln Riley: Moving college football season to spring is “very doable”
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 4, 2020, 4:08 AM EDT


One of the top coaches in college football thinks the season can be moved to the spring without much trouble if the COVID-19 pandemic makes it impossible to play in the fall.

Oklahoma head coach Lincoln Riley said that if the situation surrounding the pandemic doesn’t improve in the weeks ahead, delaying the 2020 football season until the spring of 2021 would work.

“To me, this becomes, ‘Do you think [playing in the spring] is doable?’ and I personally do,” Riley said, via OUDaily.com. “I do believe you can adjust your schedule. You’d have to adjust your schedule to give players plenty of time off to get their bodies back. . . . But I think the people who say it’s not doable, in my opinion, just don’t want to think about it. I just think it would be unwise to take any potential option off the table right now, and I think it would be very difficult to say that the spring’s not a potential option. I, for one, think it’s very doable.”

The NFL wants to keep its season on schedule and also keep next year’s offseason on schedule, including keeping the draft in April even if college football season is played in the spring and hasn’t ended yet. But so much can change in the months ahead that every option is on the table. Including the option of making college football a spring sport for the first time in its 150-year history.

 

[ThePennsyOracle]

I think it's Luketa along with other Canadians that make up 4 of the 6.

"He is one of three Canadians, alongside Theo Johnson and Jonathan Sutherland, currently listed on the Penn State roster with one more, incoming freshman Malick Meiga, set to join them when the roster is updated for the fall."

https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article243914697.html

They’re all back now.

 

[BBrown]

I think it's Luketa along with other Canadians that make up 4 of the 6.

"He is one of three Canadians, alongside Theo Johnson and Jonathan Sutherland, currently listed on the Penn State roster with one more, incoming freshman Malick Meiga, set to join them when the roster is updated for the fall."

https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article243914697.html

Its not Luketa. Steve Jones played a zoom interview with him from State College...http://stevejonesshow.com/podcast-new/

 

[BBrown]

The change in the positivity rate, the number of positive tests per the total number of tests, can answer that. If true percent infected is close to the positivity rate than you expected the positivity rate to stay steady no matter how much testing is increased. If the true percent infected is higher than the positivity rate or if the infection is starting to spread more rapidly then the positivity rate will increase as more testing is done.

I know I personally have linked at least 3 articles from AZ and 1 from TX that specifically states it was not because of more testing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Whether some of these posters choose to believe the information or not is on them. Most of them are too busy moving the goal posts back and forth from Deaths to Hospitalizations to IC units to vent usage to positive cases
Ive also seen posts from @henrymale with similar info.

 

[psu7113]

Some of you don't read. I wrote this, "I understand why Coach Franklin is having his family isolate themselves in their Florida home. I would do the same thing."

No, you can’t write. You were analogizing what Franklin is doing (to protect his daughter who has a health condition which would make her more vulnerable to serious complications) with the need to protect the average football player. Those are two entirely different situations. Nice try though.

 

[psu7113]

Had to take my daughter for a first grade physical yesterday and chatted with her doctor who is very well known in Fairfax/Loudoun counties. He said he's been working with public officials to develop a rapid response to positive covid tests in school kids. His opinion that for kids under 12, it's especially safe for them to go to school. Said masks, three feet distance, sanitizing, etc. should still be practiced, but said children as carriers/transmitters of covid is rare due to their limited lung capacity/volume. Said there is almost zero chance of a kid transferring to another kid or adult and that in very rare instances where serious infection occurs in them it is easy to diagnose and treat. Said overweight kids are at most risk, and those over 12. He noted public schools are very scared about lawsuits, which is what is really driving the bus on their plans to get kids on campus in the fall. The uproar in Fairfax County over having a mixed schedule (three days home, two days at school) is intense. Said private schools are in the best position because there isn't a fear of lawsuits and they are dealing with much smaller numbers. He mentioned the recent outbreak in Loudoun County (where 100+ teens came back from Myrtle Beach with covid) was not because they were at the beach, but because they all traveled and lived together in close quarters.

I follow everything you wrote except the risk of lawsuits being greater for public than private schools. How so?

 

[BBrown]

No, you can’t write. You were analogizing what Franklin is doing (to protect his daughter who has a health condition which would make her more vulnerable to serious complications) with the need to protect the average football player. Those are two entirely different situations. Nice try though.

+1.
Yea once again I'm going to say, without hesitation, that Franklin has a better grasp on HIS home life, safety and dealing with a child that has Sickle Cell Anemia better than 99.99% of the posters on any message board.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

I follow everything you wrote except the risk of lawsuits being greater for public than private schools. How so?

Private school is a choice.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Its not Luketa. Steve Jones played a zoom interview with him from State College...http://stevejonesshow.com/podcast-new/

This explains 2 of the late arrivals.

 

[BBrown]

This explains 2 of the late arrivals.

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i think Ryan mentioned the holdup with Lee the other day.

 

[ButlerEagle]

The other day I hopped a taxi by handy delivery, then the next day I got an Uber back and forth in the sc area and both drivers told me that they have had various players as passengers and the players told them both the same thing....there will indeed be a season, there will indeed be no more than 35 to 40 thousand for home games, and the season will indeed be shortened most likely to 9 games or so.

 

[LionJim]

The other day I hopped a taxi by handy delivery, then the next day I got an Uber back and forth in the sc area and both drivers told me that they have had various players as passengers and the players told them both the same thing....there will indeed be a season, there will indeed be no more than 35 to 40 thousand for home games, and the season will indeed be shortened most likely to 9 games or so.

Glad for the players.

 

[NewEra 2014]

The change in the positivity rate, the number of positive tests per the total number of tests, can answer that. If true percent infected is close to the positivity rate than you expected the positivity rate to stay steady no matter how much testing is increased. If the true percent infected is higher than the positivity rate or if the infection is starting to spread more rapidly then the positivity rate will increase as more testing is done.

I have been watching two states in particular, WA and CO, for family reasons. It looks like the % positives have been holding at about 5% in those two states. Deaths per case have been trending downward as well.

 

[bwifan]

Seeing more and more smaller schools especially in D3 pull the plug on football. Muhlenberg just said no with maybe football in the spring...

https://muhlenbergsports.com/news/2...erence-announces-decision-on-fall-sports.aspx

 

[PSUFBFAN]

The other day I hopped a taxi by handy delivery, then the next day I got an Uber back and forth in the sc area and both drivers told me that they have had various players as passengers and the players told them both the same thing....there will indeed be a season, there will indeed be no more than 35 to 40 thousand for home games, and the season will indeed be shortened most likely to 9 games or so.

I have no doubt that is what they are being told (as of now). I also have no doubt that whoever is telling them these "facts" will have no input into the ultimate decision to play or not play - that's not a criticism of that person(s), it's just a fact that the final decision will be made at a pay grade much higher than anyone who is currently talking to the players.

I hope like heck what they are saying comes true!

 

[SR108]

I’m a teacher in PA. Our school board just voted to go back to the classroom in the fall. I believe many parents will be sending their sons and daughters back to school.

At some point, money always becomes the issue. It is would be hard for parents who are paying taxes and or tuition to accept writing a check if their students are actually not in school or on campus.

 

[SR108]

My school district in MI will allow kids to choose to return to school or take all classes virtual.
MI governor just published guidelines for schools.
Kids and teachers in 6-12 required to wear masks at all times.
K-5 kids not required to wear masks, but teachers are

Virtual Classes = Busy Work, and headaches for parents who will view this as paying taxes for nothing.

 

[AWS1022]

Virtual Classes = Busy Work, and headaches for parents who will view this as paying taxes for nothing.

Yes virtual classes just mean that the parents will have to teach more than they already do. I basically put both my kids through high school and college....not sure what the teachers got paid for.

 

[Cpeplion]

I’m a teacher in PA. Our school board just voted to go back to the classroom in the fall. I believe many parents will be sending their sons and daughters back to school.

holy crap! In my county of Va we are going to be 100% virtual grades 4-12 indefinitely.

 

[Cpeplion]

Yes virtual classes just mean that the parents will have to teach more than they already do. I basically put both my kids through high school and college....not sure what the teachers got paid for.

not sure if you’re actually taking a swipe at teachers but you understand that some districts still requiring teachers to do way more work in these virtual settings than before and you understand that teachers still have kids of their own and to do this virtual crap with their students. Just because you don’t see the work they put in doesn’t mean they don’t do it.

 

[AWS1022]

not sure if you’re actually taking a swipe at teachers but you understand that some districts still requiring teachers to do way more work in these virtual settings than before and you understand that teachers still have kids of their own and to do this virtual crap with their students. Just because you don’t see the work they put in doesn’t mean they don’t do it.

The work that some do, certainly not all.

 

[JoeBot409]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ege-football-season-to-spring-is-very-doable/

Lincoln Riley: Moving college football season to spring is “very doable”
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 4, 2020, 4:08 AM EDT


One of the top coaches in college football thinks the season can be moved to the spring without much trouble if the COVID-19 pandemic makes it impossible to play in the fall.

Oklahoma head coach Lincoln Riley said that if the situation surrounding the pandemic doesn’t improve in the weeks ahead, delaying the 2020 football season until the spring of 2021 would work.

“To me, this becomes, ‘Do you think [playing in the spring] is doable?’ and I personally do,” Riley said, via OUDaily.com. “I do believe you can adjust your schedule. You’d have to adjust your schedule to give players plenty of time off to get their bodies back. . . . But I think the people who say it’s not doable, in my opinion, just don’t want to think about it. I just think it would be unwise to take any potential option off the table right now, and I think it would be very difficult to say that the spring’s not a potential option. I, for one, think it’s very doable.”

The NFL wants to keep its season on schedule and also keep next year’s offseason on schedule, including keeping the draft in April even if college football season is played in the spring and hasn’t ended yet. But so much can change in the months ahead that every option is on the table. Including the option of making college football a spring sport for the first time in its 150-year history.

Where do they think the virus is going to go in the spring?

 

[NC2017]

holy crap! In my county of Va we are going to be 100% virtual grades 4-12 indefinitely.

Would you mind naming the county? Thanks.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

holy crap! In my county of Va we are going to be 100% virtual grades 4-12 indefinitely.

Well, it sounds like your "county in Virginia" will develop the best Walmart Greeters on the Planet by the time those kids reach college age. That's assuming they will be able to handle the stress of talking to real humans in person.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Where do they think the virus is going to go in the spring?

It depends on who they listen to I guess.

 

[JoeBot409]

It depends on who they listen to I guess.

I wouldn’t put all your eggs in the “we are going to a vaccine” basket. The death rate is 0.002% for those under 70, lets play football.

 

[PearlSUJam]

I wouldn’t put all your eggs in the “we are going to a vaccine” basket. The death rate is 0.002% for those under 70, lets play football.

Don't shoot the messenger. I just posted a link.

 

[lionsnphils]

Yesterday we had an admin meeting with the medical professionals from our community that are working with the district to develop our safety plan.

Someone asked about the flu and the doctor said the flu is more dangerous to children than CV19. HMMMM?

 

[AWS1022]

Yesterday we had an admin meeting with the medical professionals from our community that are working with the district to develop our safety plan.

Someone asked about the flu and the doctor said the flu is more dangerous to children than CV19. HMMMM?

Oh no, you’re going to send some doomsdayers off the edge.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Well, it sounds like your "county in Virginia" will develop the best Walmart Greeters on the Planet by the time those kids reach college age. That's assuming they will be able to handle the stress of talking to real humans in person.

Early conversations with the administrators at our school in NoVA (private) indicate they're going to have kids on campus full time in the fall, though not totally confirmed. We shall see. I have no idea how parents will cope with having to work remotely (if they can) and ensure small kids are participating in virtual classes/doing schoolwork during the day.

 

[Cpeplion]

Would you mind naming the county? Thanks.

orange, but they just changed it to today to two days a week A/B day no more than 2 days a week or 100% virtual for those that want to do that. It’s a CF with schools...none of them know what to do and are changing plans every few weeks it seems.

 

[bison13]

Yesterday we had an admin meeting with the medical professionals from our community that are working with the district to develop our safety plan.

Someone asked about the flu and the doctor said the flu is more dangerous to children than CV19. HMMMM?

https://www.aafp.org/patient-care/e...rus/covid-19_resources/covid-19--testing.html
Read the second paragraph carefully.

 

[Nitt1300]

Online sportsbooks have college football odds posted for which Power Five Conference will cancel their season first.

The PAC-12 leads the odds board as the favorite to cancel their season first.

Which Power 5 School Cancels Football First?

• PAC-12 +150
• Big 12 +250
• ACC +300
• Big Ten +400
• SEC +500

The PAC-12 is the favorite here for a reason as one-fourth of their schools are in the state of California where coronavirus cases have been rising.

States on the West Coast, in general, have seen a spike in the number of cases, for example, Arizona, which is also the home to two more PAC-12 schools in the University of Arizona and Arizona State.

The Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, has already made it clear that large gatherings in the state could be out of the picture for the rest of the calendar year. The Governor of Oregon, Kate Brown, had similar remarks saying that any large gatherings would need to be canceled as well.

Oregon holds two PAC-12 schools as well.

https://www.usaonlinesportsbooks.com/news/betting-odds-say-pac-12-cancel-football-season-first.html

 

[AWS1022]

Online sportsbooks have college football odds posted for which Power Five Conference will cancel their season first.

The PAC-12 leads the odds board as the favorite to cancel their season first.

Which Power 5 School Cancels Football First?

• PAC-12 +150
• Big 12 +250
• ACC +300
• Big Ten +400
• SEC +500

The PAC-12 is the favorite here for a reason as one-fourth of their schools are in the state of California where coronavirus cases have been rising.

States on the West Coast, in general, have seen a spike in the number of cases, for example, Arizona, which is also the home to two more PAC-12 schools in the University of Arizona and Arizona State.

The Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, has already made it clear that large gatherings in the state could be out of the picture for the rest of the calendar year. The Governor of Oregon, Kate Brown, had similar remarks saying that any large gatherings would need to be canceled as well.

Oregon holds two PAC-12 schools as well.

https://www.usaonlinesportsbooks.com/news/betting-odds-say-pac-12-cancel-football-season-first.html

Looking forward to the sausages at college football games?

 

[Conemaugh]

“Them policies”? I’m glad we have constitutional scholars on this board to provide their wisdom.

So using your logic we shouldn’t have speed limits, seatbelt laws, a legal drinking age, smoking laws, illegal drugs, etc. because they are just public safety laws and violate the constitution? What about my constitutional right to be protected from those who are irresponsible, those lazy idiots who violate Covid-19 regulations and choose to spread the virus rather than take the mandatory legal protections of social distancing, face mask wearing, and self quarantining and isolation. It doesn’t matter if you agree with the laws, what matters is that you obey them rather than endanger the public (including yourself and those of all ages who have equal rights under the constitution). “and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances“.

Isolate yourself at home and you will not get the virus. The power is yours if you choose to use it.

 

[Conemaugh]

Reading comprehension my friend...I didn’t say the all 40 states increasing it poo pooed it. I said the areas with the worst increase did, ie FL, TX, AZ, and GA.

There will be increase even where people are taking it seriously but the places doing the worst are those that reopened early, quickly, and with relaxed precautions.

I live in Georgia. They certainly did not poo poo the virus here. Everything was shut down, and there were relatively few cases when they decided to reopen. Your post is political BS

 

[crazytoadie]

I live in Georgia. They certainly did not poo poo the virus here. Everything was shut down, and there were relatively few cases when they decided to reopen. Your post is political BS

Ok.

Gov. Kemp held the press conference on April 20 announcing the reopening of various businesses and that the stay at home order Would expire April 31. The GA Department of Public Health reports 956 cases on that day, which was a record high at that time. The number reported for GA by the Covid tracking at worldometers for April 20 was even higher at 1,242 cases. It is impossible to claim that GA met the CDC gating recommendations for reopening when they were literally at the peak of new cases when they decided to reopened. Maybe the citizens of GA took it seriously, and I don’t dispute that, but Gov Kemp’s action speak for themselves.

So factually the number of cases were not relatively low like you claim. Neither is what I said political as there was universal and bipartisan disagreement with Gov Kemp’s decision including from the President.