The negative JF fans always take everything as an opportunity to bash JF.
No Singleton at practice today--anything to read into that?
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The negative JF fans always take everything as an opportunity to bash JF.
But this whiny, childish "I want it now!" Veruca Salt post isn't a juvenile approach.
Got it.
You're just looking for any reason to cry about Franklin.
Well, people watch a lot of NFL and think that college is the same. There is no collective bargaining agreement that provides for the coach to give out personal and health information on players. What guides this are the state and federal laws. CJF has apologized several times stating that he needs to go to the player and families before he can release information. If the player or family hasn't or won't approve him giving out the information, he cannot.
HIPAA establishes federal standards protecting sensitive health information from disclosure without a patient's consent.
If he gives out that information he is opening the university and himself to civil litigation. The NFL's collective bargaining agreement calls for the teams to have to disclose availability information on players. Each player joining the player's union has to sign that agreement waving many of their HIPAA rights.
So, every coach not named JF who provides more info about injured players are breaking the law and are liable for being sued? That is laughable. No way are they speaking with each player's family first as well....coaches don't have time for that. This is CFB, not HIPAA. They aren't medical patients. If JF says "so so and has an ankle" or "This guy has some bumps and we hope to have him back soon," there is no way he can be in legal jeopardy, or every HC would be facing lawsuits. JF runs this program like a day camp, where it's all about friendships and not ruffling feathers.
That has been his answer on many occasions and you are still here griping just to gripe.
Not true at all. Bumps and bruises would be just fine..>I'm not expecting the answer down to exact medical diagnosis. Saunders has had bumps and bruises and has been banged up...yet is still playing. But, from KJ and Nick, arguably the best players on each side of the ball, to be that vague and scoff at the media for asking, IMO is just petty. We can all disagree, but by no means is it stupid for them to ask what the status is of said players.
Every college coach lives under those rules. Some are more disciplined than others and yes, CJF just got sued by the team doctor so may be more sensitive than others. I live in Ohio and while their coach gives a bit more guidance on player status, is still very vague and cautious.
JF got sued by Lynch b/c the latter felt he was pressuring and trying to hasten a players availability status, no? That has nothing to with weekly practice updates about said players.
And, no doubt, the other coaches I listen to are still cautious and at times vague, but even the boiler plate answers of 'minor bumps' or whatever, provides more kernels of info than the wall of silence, which leads to speculation. Heck, if I remember correctly when I listened, Rhule literally mentioned the suspension of a key player before the Illinois matchup....JF refuses to elaborate on minor injuries. To each their own I guess. Many fans were beyond ticked with the way he handled and misled people going into the Peach Bowl about availability.
OK, whatever dude. You and we are not entitled to this information. It is up to the player and coach. we have zero right to it, none.
LOL ok dude. Nobody on here said we are entitled to it. But, i'll tell you this, now in the age of NIL where players and coaches are openly asking for support so said player stays on the roster, fans feel more 'entitled' to info than in the old days, right or wrong. You may not agree, and that is perfectly fine. But, when JF misleads and really was murky about the Peach Bowl opt outs and then we get smoked, the fans reax was at an all time high regarding this issue. You don't think people who invest in the program, but now specifically into players NIL wallets have more skin in the game for information? This isn't the 80's anymore when the game was more pure and simple.
And, JF's baffled reaction to the media actually doing their job by asking for answers regarding Nick and KJ, arguably the two best players on the team, is just childish. They aren't asking about the backup snapper. He needs some self-awareness.
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Right...and how are you doing today? Any chance you are a little constipated? How about a headache? Have you been able to get your weight and blood pressure levels down? How is your relationship with your spouse and kids (if you have them)? How about your parents and siblings (if you have them)? How is work going? Did you get a raise, pay cut, get laid off?
I am just curious. I know it isn't any of my business but just asking. No need for you to mislead or be murky.
Obviously, I am being "funny". But you and I aren't entitled. If you don't want to pay for tickets or participate in NIL, that is your business and prerogative. I traveled to the Peach Bowl and was disgusted. I currently have no plans to attend a game this season for a lot of different reasons but the team's phoning in the Peach Bowl is contributing. The team made their decisions and I made mine. I am good with it. I'll spend my time following local high school ball, the Guardians and other sporting events that I feel deserve my time and attention.
I wouldn't mind diving into this, actually. I'm glad you were disgusted....as was I watching and many other fans. It was an embarrassing display all around. And, do you think the team phoned it in partly b/c JF seemed to as well? He lacks the piss & vinegar and since he is all about maintaining the peace and friendships. I think his lack of clarity or insistence on guys playing indicates he can be run over by the inmates, so to speak. I get what you are saying and understand the point...but JF does himself zero favors with this type of smug and outdated concept about injuries. It just adds to the consternation.
There is a fine line and some margins he can use to be vague, yet still give insight so people have a basic idea of what is going on with said players, that doesn't cross into lawsuit/family lines. EVERY coach toes that line....except JF. Similar to his crunch time decision making in games, he thinks he is outsmarting everyone, when its just the opposite.
well, his hands are tied when it comes to players sitting out. This is why we have a 12 team playoff. The bowls, now, are just scrimmages except for the playoffs. We've all wanted a playoff in forever. So now, because the good NFL-bound players no longer care to play in the Polan Weedeater bowl, we have a playoff. So that is good.
My take on the Peach Bowl is that many of the good players decided not to play include a great and dedicated LT. For him, it was all risk and no upside. There was nothing to be gained. I think the team that did participate played hard in the first half. Our best defender was hurt. But the real problem was on O. Our OC had been fired, the new OC wasn't doing much yet, the WRs were awful and completely mentally decimated. I counted four of five times when Allar threw to a spot and the WR went someplace else. After the game, the WRs didn't participate in any team conversations...they just walked off disgusted and mentally defeated.
IMHO, we'll see what this year brings. The team is improved, spirits are so far, high. That includes the WRs. If we don't get a playoff spot, I don't really care if we play in a bowl. I suspect you'll see a lot of players from top teams opt out if not in the playoffs so the bowl will end up being a prep game for the spring and fall football events. They'll play the younger players to get them going. I am already seeing a ton of kids opting out of the current season planning on going into the Portal after the playing season is over. It is just the reality of the game right now.
So for me, I am watching and will make my decisions accordingly. I remember being a wild-eyed fan of the Steelers as a kid but now realize the players don't give a crap about Pittsburgh. They'll play anywhere that gives them the most money. While frustrating as a fan, I'd do the same thing in their shoes. So in the end, it is what it is. I am not emotional about it. And every team faces the same problems.
100% agree on not caring about any bowl if we miss the playoffs. Especially with this new format. If PSU misses the playoffs, this would be a failed year and a waste of that 2022 class with Nick, Kaytron, Abdul etc. Most of the vets would sit out a meaningless Outback Bowl too if we miss the playoffs. Then, JF would have to explain again how the team missed the postseason and how 'winning is difficult.' Let's hope we can avoid that mess.
I don't have a problem with the media asking. I expect it.
Myself, I tire of hearing every. Single. Dang. One. Of them say "good morning/afternoon/evening - how are you James?", but we all have our peeves.
Some of these people have been covering JF PSU for the past decade and they still act like amateurs asking questions.
This year, we have the team and the schedule. USC this season was not last season's UM or tOSU. Anything worse than one-loss is a failure IMHO. Having said that, PSU still provides one of the best game day entertainment values in all of sports.
Want to root for a team? Root for the Guardians to win the world series. In the AL, the last for teams left are CLE, Detroit, KC and the Yankees.
Payroll
- Yankees $309,000,000
- KC $122,000,000
- Guardians $109,000,000
- Detroit $98,000,000
Just to round that out, the three other teams combined are almost the same payroll as the Yankees. In the NL
- mets at $317
- Phillies $247
- LA $241
- Braves $236
- SD $171
- Brewers $115
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100%. 10-2 or worse, and missing the playoffs, is an abject failure, IMHO as well. I'm sure most on here disagree, unfortunately. And, no doubt...anyone in the AL Central would be a nice change....and not the Mets or Dodgers.This year, we have the team and the schedule. USC this season was not last season's UM or tOSU. Anything worse than one-loss is a failure IMHO. Having said that, PSU still provides one of the best game day entertainment values in all of sports.
Want to root for a team? Root for the Guardians to win the world series. In the AL, the last for teams left are CLE, Detroit, KC and the Yankees.
Payroll
- Yankees $309,000,000
- KC $122,000,000
- Guardians $109,000,000
- Detroit $98,000,000
Just to round that out, the three other teams combined are almost the same payroll as the Yankees. In the NL
The Dodgers top two players are making $127,000,000 this year. That is more than four entire teams.
- mets at $317
- Phillies $247
- LA $241
- Braves $236
- SD $171
- Brewers $115
2024 MLB Team Salary Payroll Tracker
A real-time look at the 2024 salary payroll totals for each MLB team..www.spotrac.com
Don't know why everyone is so upset, James has this covered. Probably just following the analytics like he always does. We all know he is a master at those analytics.
Except for that one analytic that he keeps missing on, the one that tells him he should stay the hell out of the stadium when playing a tough opponent.
Except for that one analytic that he keeps missing on, the one that tells him he should stay the hell out of the stadium when playing a tough opponent.
I understand the HIPAA privacy rules but I think it goes much deeper than that. HIPAA doesn't prohibit individuals (players) from telling people about their medical problems or recovery progress. I don't recall any of Franklin's players going on social media to thank people for their well wishes and to tell them about their recovery or when they expect to be back in action. I'm thinking it's a team rule that players aren't to do this.
Part II: I'm assuming that these kids attend classes with non athlete students. I'm surprised we don't hear if these kids are seen walking across campus or attending class.
I agree but want to add how we value CJF is not how PSU values him. For us, it is a pass/fail system based on wins and losses. For the university, it is about supporting the PSU brand, making money and not embarrassing the program. If the school could accomplish those without winning a single game, they'd have no problem with it. The challenge is to push the program and win games because that results in revenue. Michigan, for example, is a team that has cheated to win. They've been a little tarnished, but lets see what the future holds for them. I am not sold on their coach or that their NCAA issues are over.
And, of course, PSU has one of the worst reputations in all of the NCAA thanks to Jerry and the Board of Trustees. So there is that to contend with.
You and I are part of a collective. If we don't attend or watch games, nobody cares. It has to be done en masse. And in some ways, CJF is a victim of his own success. You are either getting better or getting worse. We need to break through and become a title contender because that is the next step. But it is also the hardest step. On the other hand, another 10-2 season will start to erode the collective fan base. Then that erodes the prime directives of the school for brand building and revenue.
As for PSU, we are either going to get better or worse based on this year. If better, CJF is in a good position. If worse, the school will have to make some decisions down the road.
Agree. and our "long-term injury" safety was walking about without a problem at the Illl game. I see players thanking fans if their injury leads to the end of their careers. But I don't know why a player would want to advertise an injury in the middle of their career. I mean, I don't go to my employer and tell them I have a migraine or restless leg syndrome. the less they know the better and that is at the root of the HIPAA legislation.
Respectfully, some ppl need to get a life. This sh*t only matters if you have a gambling problem.
Go to work. Raise your kids. Watch the game on Saturday if you want to. Who cares if Singleton missed a practice. Who cares what JF says to reporters that would cut your throat for a 5% increase in clicks.
Now, if you want to talk about his lack of ability to actually coach a football game....
Go to work. Raise your kids. Watch the game on Saturday if you want to. Who cares if Singleton missed a practice. Who cares what JF says to reporters that would cut your throat for a 5% increase in clicks.
Now, if you want to talk about his lack of ability to actually coach a football game....
I’ll choose to believe that he’s working on a presentation that he asked to give or large group assessment, so rather than go through a typical practice early in the week coach told him to stay home and get all of his work done. Because you know it is college and the kids actually go to class sometimes.
I think it's playoffs or bust this year. 10-2 works only if it makes that cut. If not, there will be a whole bunch of unhappy campers.
Opt-outs and the 12-team playoff have now completely devalued the bowls. After having to play Mississippi last year with a largely 2nd-team D...and Arkansas the same thing a couple seasons before that...I would for the first time in my life not be able to care much about any post-season game this year other than a playoff.
Guys, the mystery is not meant for you. It's meant for our opponents. Also, you knowing or not knowing absolutely 100% does not change the actual availability of the player on Saturday, but our opponents knowing/not knowing absolutely 100% affects their preparation.
Arrogant is the key word. Saban could be arrogant, Smart also. Even Dabo. Big game James? Just effin humble yourself and win some big games, you should NOT be arrogant with your lousy track record. Again ZERO playoff appearances.
Pathetic thing here is he probably has a 4 year (maybe more) cushion of missing the playoffs before he is canned given his stupid contract. Unless all the billionaires on this board ante up about $50-$60 mill.
No mystery needs to be created over whether or not a RB is playing
No, he can't miss the playoffs the next 2 years and keep his job. He doesn't have to win in the playoffs but he has to get there this year or next.
Its not that JF coached better this year if we make the playoffs. It the fact they changed the format. Lets not confuse things.
It better be this year.
Next year we probably lose Allar, Singleton, Allen, Fleming, Warren, Carter, Winston, Reed, King, and several OL & DL.
They'll have to reload through the portal.
This team is dominated by 4*/5* athletes from the 6th ranked class of 2022 like Singleton, Shelton, Allar, Allen, Nelson, Durant, Carter, & Winston. Most of those guys will be gone next year and will have to be replaced by players from recruiting classes ranked around 15th. Hopefully we have a lot of players who perform better than their recruiting rankings next year but it looks to me like this year is our best chance.
FWIW next year we play at Iowa, at Ohio State, Nebraska (up and coming), and Oregon.
Yep, unless he goes 11-1 or better than I'll give him the credit for coaching better. But if it is the same story...10-2 and losing our two biggest games then same old same old, playoff or not.
