Official Graham Spanier trial thread.
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this is now getting ridiculous. Just an absurdly long time either way.
Every jury so far has taken McQueary's word at face value. Even the charge that Sandusky was acquitted for was basically the jury taking McQueary's testimony at face value.
I often check out when I think I'm going to be done so my company doesn't get charged for another night in a hotel, and I want more travel flexibility. I often check right back in when things don't go as planned.
I know all those close to MM absolutely deny this....what else would they say. However, raise your hand if you would be surprised that Mike was coerced by investigators? It would explain a great deal. MM might have been put between the proverbial rock and hard place. Investigators threatening him or Pop with charges etc. It is very much in character with how The Commonwealth operated in this case.
That's an assumption on your part. Because every jury punished PSU and JS, doesn't mean they did it because of MM's bullet proof testimony. No one needed MM when they had the media doing their testimony for them.
Wasn't Sandusky found not guilty of three of four charges that pertained to that night?
4 out of 5.
Count 7: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
Verdict: Not guilty.
Count 8: Indecent assault
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 9: Unlawful contact with minors
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 10: Corruption of minors
Verdict: Guilty.
Count 11: Endangering welfare of children
Verdict: Guilty.
Can't wait to see all the facebook posts from jury members this weekend with them on hotel beds covered in money flipping off the camera. #JuryDutyStipend
and remember, the PA State Police absolutely knew of his gambling on college football games... a fact that if it came out would have ended his coaching career immediately
Speaks to his character. He was willing to take that risk knowing there were consequences, just like sending pics of his junk to coeds.
I'm sure towny, dukie, and lar don't see those flaws though.
correct...but his father, Dranov, Curley, Schultz, TSM and Spanier apparently didn't.
I can understand why you might reasonably think that........ but I would doubt it.
("and that's all I've got to say about that"
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Face value? You mean his testimony that "some kind of intercourse was going on"? Or am I getting versions of his testimony mixed up? Words matter right?
Guilty of four out of five. Not guilty on one - involuntary deviate sexual intercourse.
According to this attorney the difference between rape and IDSI is as follows:
"Per os" in the first description refers to the mouth, meaning IDSI generally refers to rape involving oral or anal penetration. Rape is typically charged in instances involving vaginal penetration.
So when McQueary testifies that he didn't see penetration, the jury could logically conclude that the state's charge of penetration wasn't supported. In other words, they could have believed him, but still returned a not guilty verdict on that charge.
If the victim 2 case went to trial on its own, all 5 would be not guilty.
The only reason the victim 2 case got anywhere was due to the testimony of the known victims, not victim 2.
The only reason the victim 2 case got anywhere was due to the testimony of the known victims, not victim 2.
He's a Loser in my mind starting with the night he walked in the locker room and did nothing. Too many people give him a free pass like he was some young undersized kid who couldn't do anything to protect the young boy. Sorry, he should return any cash judgement to Penn State for his role in all of this and go find a real job like the rest of us.
Considering JS would die in jail on the ridiculous V8 convictions alone, acquittal on that one count doesn't really mean that much, does it? But keep standing up for your heroic whistle blower.
Where does the totally sociopathic, disturbed, crooked Matt Sandusky fit into all of this complete and total bullshit?
Careful. I assume you don't own a barn.
It's all part of the plan, jury is hung, case gets thrown out, GS walks on a "technicality".
Apparently not the grand jury that actually heard him testify.
At this point, I'd take that conclusion to this mess.
For sure. Hung jury, GS walks & kicks Freeh's arse in civil case due to TC blowing up Freeh's assertion that JVP instructed him to go with the alternate plan.
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