Since Urban got there they have always taken the tactic of step on the opponents throat and don't let up--no mercy and run up the score. They have done that this year and they are an outstanding team--but has anyone punched them in the mouth (figuratively). Have they run a gamut of games like the last 5 teams we just played in a row. Michigan State was supposed to be a tough team--OSU beat them at home by 24--we beat them on the road by 21. And MSU gave them a battle until near the end of the first half. That was followed by a weak Northwestern and after that a thrashing of Wisky--but then MD and Rutgers--so are they very good-sure, but not as tested as some believe. If we go in and play our best and Rahne doesn't totally screw up the play calling we have a shot.