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[Player2BNamedL8r]

Pennsylvania AP writers ALSO voted Nebraska number one that year. If even your own state feels that you are not the best, how can you then go point fingers elsewhere?

We're used to the Pittsburgh media (VERY anti-PSU) not voting our way. Plus one of our own beat-writers is a tosu alum (and let's us know it weekly) so that explains his bias. I'd be surprised if the he eastern PA schools voted for Nebraska. Plus, what about the lack of respect in the coach's poll? Point is, if it was one of the big 2, the league offices would have raised holy hell to make sure they'd be #1!

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Sure, when the investigative facts prove the allegations false, we should go with the public opinion that everyone believes to be true as the absolutely reality? Go ahead, let's play that game. You first.

LMFAO, here are the words, and tweet, of one of your own freaking football players counselor:

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

We're used to the Pittsburgh media (VERY anti-PSU) not voting our way. Plus one of our own beat-writers is a tosu alum (and let's us know it weekly) so that explains his bias. I'd be surprised if the he eastern PA schools voted for Nebraska. Plus, what about the lack of respect in the coach's poll? Point is, if it was one of the big 2, the league offices would have raised holy hell to make sure they'd be #1!

Actually, precisely that happened three year later in 1997.....

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

LMFAO, here are the words, and tweet, of one of your own freaking football players counselor:

Sadly, that is a young man who gets it.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Actually, precisely that happened three year later in 1997.....

Exactly!!!!!

 

[burghslim]

PSU Fans,

After reading through this board, it's clear that your fan base hates OSU. Just out of curiosity why?

I live in Dublin OH and the fanbase is notorious for not giving their opponents any credit. For example, every radio host had OSU beating Wisconsin by an average of 3 to 4 touchdowns. Then are appalled when the irrational prediction doesn't happen. Not one person has the postgame analysis that maybe Wisconsin is a good enough team to beat OSU. The fans here are annoying. Maybe you should go to the OSU board and ask why they hate Alabama when they are not rivals and you won the most recent game? Then you can get the hell off of this board.

 

[Whaaaaaaaany]

You're a BIG team, correct? Therefore we hate you.

 

[Lion8286]

Pennsylvania AP writers ALSO voted Nebraska number one that year. If even your own state feels that you are not the best, how can you then go point fingers elsewhere?

Wrong.

 

[klemman]

It's true that Cardale Jone's infamous Tweet was pretty bad. Now he was just a freshman in his first semester who at the time his teammates said that's just Cardale trying to be funny. Of course over time we did see many examples of Cardale's sense of humor, especially on social media. But he still said later that it was stupid and immature of him to out something like that, even as a joke.

He did pass up the opportunity to go pro and stay in school after the National Championship. And as of season's end last year he was two classes short of graduation. One of which he planned to take last off season, and the other this off season.

But why let the facts of the situation get in the way of the hater's narrative?

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

It's true that Cardale Jone's infamous Tweet was pretty bad. Now he was just a freshman in his first semester who at the time his teammates said that's just Cardale trying to be funny. Of course over time we did see many examples of Cardale's sense of humor, especially on social media. But he still said later that it was stupid and immature of him to out something like that, even as a joke.

He did pass up the opportunity to go pro and stay in school after the National Championship. And as of season's end last year he was two classes short of graduation. One of which he planned to take last off season, and the other this off season.

But why let the facts of the situation get in the way of the hater's narrative?

Mmmmm, yes, this clearly proves daO$U is as pure and snow-white as the driven snow... Got it, LMFAO!

 

[dawgduice]

PSU Fans,

After reading through this board, it's clear that your fan base hates OSU. Just out of curiosity why?

I do NOT hate OSU. They do not cheat in any way I know of. That being said, they and others are an "example" of all that is wrong with big time college sports. They are not alone in this. The best "example" of this sham is Kentucky BB. It is the money involved and the NCAA.
PLUS many Universities have lost all of the "purpose" of a University. It certainly is not to offer vocational training for the NFL or NBA.
As PSU I like to "think" we have a little higher standard for academics and graduation. In short, more concern for the athletes. I also think Northwestern does a better job than we do. For me the best current example of a "better system" is the Ivy League. The NFL and NBA should develop their own minor leagues to develop the non-college athletes that are now "in" college for sports. Maybe use the MLB model. But if you are the Universities, NCAA, NFL, NBA why rock the boat. Have to wait until it sinks, maybe never

 

[ivan brunetti]

We're used to the Pittsburgh media (VERY anti-PSU) not voting our way. Plus one of our own beat-writers is a tosu alum (and let's us know it weekly) so that explains his bias. I'd be surprised if the he eastern PA schools voted for Nebraska. Plus, what about the lack of respect in the coach's poll? Point is, if it was one of the big 2, the league offices would have raised holy hell to make sure they'd be #1!

People honestly thought Nebraska looked like the better team. You are asking for coaches and AP writers to go against their honest evaluation and vote for a conference member. That is not part of being in a conference. If that were the case Big Ten coaches and writers would have the top three spots now as Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska.

 

[Howie'81]

People honestly thought Nebraska looked like the better team. You are asking for coaches and AP writers to go against their honest evaluation and vote for a conference member. That is not part of being in a conference. If that were the case Big Ten coaches and writers would have the top three spots now as Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska.

That's hysterical. How bad did you guys suck that year then after we trucked you by 7 touchdowns? PSU would've beaten Nebraska by 2 or 3 TDs that year and I'm not exaggerating. I think privately over a beer in a moment of lucidity, even Tom Osborne would admit it.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

People honestly thought Nebraska looked like the better team. You are asking for coaches and AP writers to go against their honest evaluation and vote for a conference member. That is not part of being in a conference. If that were the case Big Ten coaches and writers would have the top three spots now as Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska.

Uh, yeah...no. They made a conscious decision to make sure the new kid wasn't going to win a NC on their watch, especially since at the time, the power 2 hadn't done so in forever. Media people are especially petty even if they felt PSU could/would drop 50 on Dr. Tom (who btw hadn't won a NC to that point). I know of at least 2 who vote accordingly.

 

[Lion84]

That's hysterical. How bad did you guys suck that year then after we trucked you by 7 touchdowns? PSU would've beaten Nebraska by 2 or 3 TDs that year and I'm not exaggerating. I think privately over a beer in a moment of lucidity, even Tom Osborne would admit it.

You are right. That PSU Team would have rolled Nebby - spiteful d-bags of the Big10 wanted no parts of us being National Champs. That was a time when all the idiots cared about was who won the stupid Rose Bowl.

 

[ivan brunetti]

You guys are acting like the voting was close and that Big Ten media conspired to change the outcome. It wasn't close.

In the AP, Penn State received 10.5 first place votes. Nebraska received 51.5.



http://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1994

 

[Lion8286]

You guys are acting like the voting was close and that Big Ten media conspired to change the outcome. It wasn't close.

In the AP, Penn State received 10.5 first place votes. Nebraska received 51.5.



http://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1994

Hey pal, Notre Dame sucks this year and your coach is an embarassment. Almost every year your team does less with more than any other team in the country. You should have more to worry about than a vote 22 years ago.

 

[AWS1022]

People honestly thought Nebraska looked like the better team. You are asking for coaches and AP writers to go against their honest evaluation and vote for a conference member. That is not part of being in a conference. If that were the case Big Ten coaches and writers would have the top three spots now as Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska.

Then please explain how we dropped in one poll after beating OSU by 40.

 

[ivan brunetti]

Hey pal, Notre Dame sucks this year and your coach is an embarassment. Almost every year your team does less with more than any other team in the country. You should have more to worry about than a vote 22 years ago.

I agree Notre Dame sucks. Now and forever.

 

[AWS1022]

You guys are acting like the voting was close and that Big Ten media conspired to change the outcome. It wasn't close.

In the AP, Penn State received 10.5 first place votes. Nebraska received 51.5.



http://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1994

The writers conspired to get Tom his first NC. After all, Paterno already had two and Tom deserved to get his first one. Not to mention, Paterno wasn't exactly a favorite of writers. The anti-PSU bias is also the only explanation for Ki Jana Carter not winning the Hesiman.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

The writers conspired to get Tom his first NC. After all, Paterno already had two and Tom deserved to get his first one. Not to mention, Paterno wasn't exactly a favorite of writers. The anti-PSU bias is also the only explanation for Ki Jana Carter not winning the Hesiman.

Well PSU being forced to go to the Rose Bowl rather than the "Bowl Coalition" matchup (the b1g refused to become a member of the "Bowl Coalition" until after PSU got screwed). If I remember correctly, Paterno was against the b1g refusing to join the "Bowl Coalition" which would match the #1 and #2 teams from member conferences (SEC, B8, SWC, ACC, BigEast and Independents at the time - the b10 and Pac10 at the time refused to join and their champions were stuck going to Rose Bowl). Believe Bowl Coalition was established in early 1990s and put into place for 1992 season. Bowl Coalition connected voters (and PSU's POS supposed b1g "bretheren") dropped PSU in the Polls after they gob-smacked daO$U 63-14!

 

[JoeDidntKnow]

People honestly thought Nebraska looked like the better team. You are asking for coaches and AP writers to go against their honest evaluation and vote for a conference member. That is not part of being in a conference. If that were the case Big Ten coaches and writers would have the top three spots now as Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska.

The inbred, midwestern, low class, trailer park voters robbed the BEST TEAM EVER ASSEMBLED of a National Championship. And it wasn't the first time either. Look up 1968, 1969 and 1973. Three additional teams that were the best that year got robbed.

The 1994 Penn State team was the greatest team in the last 125 years of college football. No one is even close to that team. They were unstoppable and would have crushed any of the supposed good teams from the last 25 years including the 2014 f#ckeyes and the Bama teams.

Eff the B1G shizholes and eff 0$u and Urban Myers

 

[OhioLion]

Klemman,
Sorry, but you lost me at "Some of the best investigative reporters at ESPN,".



OL

 

[AWS1022]

Klemman,
Sorry, but you lost me at "Some of the best investigative reporters at ESPN,".



OL

In a related story, "An impartial report by MSNBC stated that..."

 

[Fizz1]

PSU Fans,

After reading through this board, it's clear that your fan base hates OSU. Just out of curiosity why?

This 30 second segment of the 2014 game is one reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGxuIAylEI

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

The inbred, midwestern, low class, trailer park voters robbed the BEST TEAM EVER ASSEMBLED of a National Championship. And it wasn't the first time either. Look up 1968, 1969 and 1973. Three additional teams that were the best that year got robbed.

The 1994 Penn State team was the greatest team in the last 125 years of college football. No one is even close to that team. They were unstoppable and would have crushed any of the supposed good teams from the last 25 years including the 2014 f#ckeyes and the Bama teams.

Eff the B1G shizholes and eff 0$u and Urban Myers

I don't know they were the best ever...the defense was somewhat mediocre (though possibly because they were on the field so much - offense avg scoring drive was something like 2:00 + per). I do think they were the best that year, and certainly better than the one dimensional Huskers. I also think they got hosed by some ax grinders in the media. Sad thing is we'll never know for sure. We do know we're in a conference that won't stick up for us, so there's that.

 

[JoeDidntKnow]

I don't know they were the best ever...the defense was somewhat mediocre (though possibly because they were on the field so much - offense avg scoring drive was something like 2:00 + per). I do think they were the best that year, and certainly better than the one dimensional Huskers. I also think they got hosed by some ax grinders in the media. Sad thing is we'll never know for sure. We do know we're in a conference that won't stick up for us, so there's that.

They were the best ever. They could have scored on anyone and the defense was very underrated. Give Jerry and Scrap 4 weeks to prepare they would have beaten any team in the last 50 years.

 

[Langmuir]

I hate OSU because of the fans. I dont hate the program. When i used to post on FOS, every year before the OSU game, that board would be swarming with ahole fans telling us we did not have a chance. It would get so bad that the board was basically unreadable with every thread taken over by OSU fans. It was that way for more than a decade. That would not happen from any other team, even Michigan. I realize every fanbase has its aholes but OSU seems to have so many more than anybody else. I always root for them to lose but will root for any other big10 team playing out of conference.

 

[Howie'81]

Then please explain how we dropped in one poll after beating OSU by 40.

49 to be exact.

 

[kgilbert78]

Frankly I'm tired of that grown up adolescent wearing the cape and that other one who wears the buckeye necklace always being shown on television. They look like they're 60 years old going on 12. Of course, I have other reasons too.

Let's be real, we have a couple of those types too (and one of those guys is a friend of mine), though.....

 

[kgilbert78]

Not so incredible. Ask any physician or nurse how often a man in his mid-forties show up in the emergency room because of chest pains that are caused by stress or even a gastric disorder. It feels like a heart attack and usually freaks out the individual because it gives them for the first time in their life a glimpse of their mortality. Also ask the health care professional if the chest pains can be alleviated with a few lifestyle changes and an understanding of their condition.

That was me--acid reflux.

 

[klemman]

In a related story, "An impartial report by MSNBC stated that..."

I mentioned several media sources and referenced their reporters, so you pick to make your argument. No bias on your behalf.

 

[klemman]

Mmmmm, yes, this clearly proves daO$U is as pure and snow-white as the driven snow... Got it, LMFAO!

I never said that. I just relayed the facts. I'm sorry you can't handle that.

 

[kgilbert78]

People honestly thought Nebraska looked like the better team. You are asking for coaches and AP writers to go against their honest evaluation and vote for a conference member. That is not part of being in a conference. If that were the case Big Ten coaches and writers would have the top three spots now as Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska.

So John Cooper thought that Nebraska was the better team after losing to PSU 63-14?? Really???

 

[kgilbert78]

The writers conspired to get Tom his first NC. After all, Paterno already had two and Tom deserved to get his first one. Not to mention, Paterno wasn't exactly a favorite of writers. The anti-PSU bias is also the only explanation for Ki Jana Carter not winning the Hesiman.

No it's not the only explanation. The problem was that Collins was also a legit candidate and the PSU vote got split a bit by that. Add to that, KiJana often did not play in the second half as PSU was so far ahead at the time, so his total yards (but not average) were less than the winner by a fair bit. Where you might have an argument is Larry Johnson a few years later.

 

[Howie'81]

Let's be real, we have a couple of those types too (and one of those guys is a friend of mine), though.....

Never said we didn't. I don't like their guys.

 

[preshlock]

Skimmed through the thread. I think most people don't like tOUS because of the enormous success we've had. As for Meyer he relies heavily on position groups and their respective coaches. By dividing the team into nine close knit units he has been able to get a lot of cohesion from them. Would also say he takes much more of a detached approach to coaching than Saban. But you see Meyer's hands all over the offense. One of the major ways Urban has adapted his offensive philosophy to the B1G is being having a 20-25 carries a game feature back. See Carlos Hyde, Ezekiel Elliot, and now Mike Weber.

On the other hand you could see problems early on defensively. In 2012 longtime coordinator Jim Heacock retired and Luke Fickell and Everette Withers took over as co-coordinators. A pretty unique point about tOSU defensively is going back to Tressel there is not a head DC but co-coordinators. The duo just didn't work and it wasn't until Chris Ash and now Greg Schiano have been brought on board that the defense has gotten back to being dominate. Without a high end defensive coaching staff even the elite talent a tOSU struggled.

As for PSU I view you as our number two rival. Pennsylvania and Ohio have a special love of football that really carries over to the schools and fan bases.

 

[AWS1022]

Skimmed through the thread. I think most people don't like tOUS because of the enormous success we've had. As for Meyer he relies heavily on position groups and their respective coaches. By dividing the team into nine close knit units he has been able to get a lot of cohesion from them. Would also say he takes much more of a detached approach to coaching than Saban. But you see Meyer's hands all over the offense. One of the major ways Urban has adapted his offensive philosophy to the B1G is being having a 20-25 carries a game feature back. See Carlos Hyde, Ezekiel Elliot, and now Mike Weber.

On the other hand you could see problems early on defensively. In 2012 longtime coordinator Jim Heacock retired and Luke Fickell and Everette Withers took over as co-coordinators. A pretty unique point about tOSU defensively is going back to Tressel there is not a head DC but co-coordinators. The duo just didn't work and it wasn't until Chris Ash and now Greg Schiano have been brought on board that the defense has gotten back to being dominate. Without a high end defensive coaching staff even the elite talent a tOSU struggled.

As for PSU I view you as our number two rival. Pennsylvania and Ohio have a special love of football that really carries over to the schools and fan bases.

I would say the majority of people don't like OSU because of their fans, not their success.