Opinion - most disappointing player, not unit or coach?
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He's been a drive extender. Cash in and move on....learn on the job or at least sock your one big contract in the bank....or pray for a the right type of coach that can mold your natural abilities.
OL was very soft and slow. The backs were poor; Clifford held the ball too long; don't get me started...
Whole Offensive line play was ......well, offensive to watch to say the least. Wallace and Walker NFL high draft picks. C'mon man. Mike Miranda would get push backwards playing against Loch Haven U Nose Guard.
Smith not the Parsons type everyone keeps saying he could be. More like Cam Brown. Big play once a game. Then disappear.
TE's not as good as advised neither. Blocking from them was very disappointing.
RB's running like they are afraid to get hit. then again you get hit one step or two after getting the ball. Yea. you start to not wanting the ball.
Smith not the Parsons type everyone keeps saying he could be. More like Cam Brown. Big play once a game. Then disappear.
TE's not as good as advised neither. Blocking from them was very disappointing.
RB's running like they are afraid to get hit. then again you get hit one step or two after getting the ball. Yea. you start to not wanting the ball.
Asked for player not unit or coach. Don't think you can blame the RB's unless you cite #'s 79 and 53.
definitely 12. they win yesterday if he just doesnt decide to go for a heroic TFL and whiff. everything about his play is great until he tries to murder people instead of wrapping up.
A tie between every member of the offensive line
Offense: Rasheed Walker
Defense: Brandon Smith
ST: Stout the FG kicker
Defense: Brandon Smith
ST: Stout the FG kicker
86 on offense...drops and poor blocking
9 on defense...penalty after penalty
9 on defense...penalty after penalty
Agree on Smith.
Possibly the best athlete on the team, but has been a huge disappointment on the field.
JPJ #9. I have absolutely ZERO interest in rewatching any game from this season but his drive-extending penalties had to have led to 3 or 4 opposing TDs.
BS #12 a very close second. My nickname for him is T-Rex, nuff said.
BS #12 a very close second. My nickname for him is T-Rex, nuff said.
Stout….he missed a FG in SEVEN different games as well as an XPT twice.
Career-wise, barely made 60% of his FG attempts. Very disappointing.
To be fair, his kickoffs were OUTSTANDING.
Career-wise, barely made 60% of his FG attempts. Very disappointing.
To be fair, his kickoffs were OUTSTANDING.
And his punting is beyond outstanding.
Agree on placements though. Very inconsistent. Never heard anything about Pinegar being injured, although he was also very inconsistent.
Going back to coaching. Oweh and parsons both making cases for DROY and Pry didn’t properly use either of them. What an overrated DC
Pick your favorite OLineman…worst line at Penn State in a long time…maybe ever! Unacceptable!
#12 needs to come back and really learn how to play the game... he has all the talent and athletic skill in the world but his fundamentals aren't clean.
Sadly, he'll be a pro day wonderdog and off (as a 1st-2nd round pick) to the nfl he'll go where i suspect his whiffing will earn him a spot on the bench and then off to the street.
Sadly, he'll be a pro day wonderdog and off (as a 1st-2nd round pick) to the nfl he'll go where i suspect his whiffing will earn him a spot on the bench and then off to the street.
He doesn’t appear to be interested in learning anything. Best for team and player if he just moves on to the NFL.
#73 on the offense. The reads at C are tough. I don't feel like he made the right ones very often. Always gave up ground. Some bad whiffs. Definitely should have stayed at G.
#12 on defense is to easy. I'm going to go with #5. Between missed tackles, and his minimal 1 bad read every game he hurt us considerably. Probably should have ceded reps to King/Hardy/Dixon once we lost to OSU, if not Illinois.
In defense of #12, he should have stayed at OLB. Our scheme rigidity hurt us here, but that's another discussion. Perhaps he could have played some with Luketa at the hybrid DE spot. I think our scheme requires an AA type at Will or we suffer. Of course, watching both box LBs fail to make the right read and stuff runs for one yard gains was agonizing. Neither could finish a blitz either.
Our best blitzes usually came from Jacobs or Brisker off the edge. That's not incidental.
#12 on defense is to easy. I'm going to go with #5. Between missed tackles, and his minimal 1 bad read every game he hurt us considerably. Probably should have ceded reps to King/Hardy/Dixon once we lost to OSU, if not Illinois.
In defense of #12, he should have stayed at OLB. Our scheme rigidity hurt us here, but that's another discussion. Perhaps he could have played some with Luketa at the hybrid DE spot. I think our scheme requires an AA type at Will or we suffer. Of course, watching both box LBs fail to make the right read and stuff runs for one yard gains was agonizing. Neither could finish a blitz either.
Our best blitzes usually came from Jacobs or Brisker off the edge. That's not incidental.
I can “blame the RB’s”. Worst, softest, and slowest bunch I have seen in over 60 years. Either these guys have EXPONENTIALLY regressed, or they were WAY overrated to begin with. Too much time at the buffet table maybe??? Who knows? But they are BAAAAAAAAAD!!!!
Cain came back earlier than he probably should have. Probably an indictment of the situation before any of us were willing to accept it in the midst of 5-0.
Lee probably should have been the go to back from the get go, fumbling issues be damned. He's shown the ability to get in rhythm with carries.
Lovett is kind of a mystery still. It's noticeable why his work load disappeared at Baylor. He didn't play early and his limited snaps through the middle were questionable, but by the end he was just as ineffective.
Ford's lack of running attempts and numerous line ups at WR beg the question of why he didn't get converted.
Holmes brings into question a lot. He must be indecisive because his speed would have to be an upgrade over the 3 who played. He must now be able to catch as he never got in on KOR either. Is it possible he is worse at pass blocking than what we saw?
The preseason vaunted RB room with 3 players on watch lists didn't produce a single 100 yard rusher all season.
Attrition, we await these.
Even his good field goals, especially from over 25 yards, seem to move like a knuckle ball even though it was flying end over end. I thought that was strange.
Jordan Stout came here as a transfer punter. He was put in a situation where he had to assume PKing duties because Pinegar didn't get the job done. He will get drafted and punt for a long time in the NFLHe did what he came here to do in a big way. Walker, on the other hand, played a lot smaller than his size.
Agreed with Stout and that again questions the "back-ups" with the stars that we bring in. These back ups can't even sniff the field even when the time begs for it.
Fashanu is supposed to be the next thing at OT, yet can't beat out Bryce Effner for any reps?
The Kicker they brought in was supposed to be a 5 star top kicker, yet can't see any attempts with stout horrible and Pinegar hurt? And please don't even get me started with Tengwell. It wouldn't shock me if he is entertaining the portal after the way he was handled this year.
My question is this....why do other schools get their freshman some run and at Penn State, even with struggling starters, can't get a whiff?
And who's to say he cant improve his FG kicking once he gets into the league. I dont think he was any worse than Robbie Gould when he was here and look at what he became.
He (Stout) is going to be very good in the NFL and I bet teams love his ability to kick FG's in an emergency.
But his punting and kickoffs alone would have me drafting him.
Sandy B. 10 year extension and raise after 2020 and 2021?!
Only in her box checking world of incompetency!
The fact a Harvard transfer won the job for a Big ten team tells you all you need to know.
Perhaps, but Wormley was reported to be first team in camp before his season was ended with an injury. Still, no excuse for the multiple whiffs Ive seen from 68 and 73. 53 appears to have checked out already. I'll give 79 a pass this year because he's a G playing out of position to help the team.
Without question it's 12.
But 73 is without a doubt the worst center I have ever seen at Penn State in the modern history of the school. And no, that's not an exaggeration.
