OSU Sawyer Strip Sack TD. Does PSU make that play?

[ryoder1]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.


Here is my point. We never make the championship play in winning time against very good teams under Franklin. Well once in 2016 but we were a day late and a dollar short with 2 losses already in the books. Why is this? I wish I knew. Is it all Franklin's fault? No, players need to execute. Does Franklin need to share the blame? Yes, he is the head coach. For some reason he does not have our guys mentally ready or is not able to instill the mental fortitude to gut out these close games and make championship winning plays. Why is it that ND is the team that comes up with that pick at the end?? Just way too many examples to ignore this horrible trend.

Latest example: The miserable ND loss where yet again we snatch defeat from victory. ND had no business winning that game after the first quarter. We are running the ball at will, shutting their offense down yet we find a way to lose......again.

Here are some examples of opportunities to make winning plays and we make losing plays.

- Poor pass to Singleton in the flat and he can't come up with it but he had a shot.

-Can't jump on a fumble right there for the taking.

-ND reeling with Leonard knocked out and we let a 2nd string QB come in cold and play like Joe Montana. They seize momentum. No killer instinct. Are you freaking kidding me?!

-Fall down to give up a 60 yard game tying td on a team that really cannot throw the ball deep.

-Shrivel up on defense and inexplicably become less physical in the 2nd half and at winning time.

-Throw a horrendous ill advised pick to seal the fact we will lose the game. Our 5 star qb totally overwhelmed in the winning time moment. By the way, if that situation is reversed our DB never comes up with that pick. Why? That is winning time and we don't make winning plays in winning time.

Will this ever change under Franklin? Who knows, not looking good. Should Franklin be fired? No of course not now. But at some point, maybe after 2 or 3 or 5 seasons of this ineptitude and inability to win in the clutch a change will be needed at the top.

 

[PSUPride1]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.


Here is my point. We never make the championship play in winning time against very good teams under Franklin. Well once in 2016 but we were a day late and a dollar short with 2 losses already in the books. Why is this? I wish I knew. Is it all Franklin's fault? No, players need to execute. Does Franklin need to share the blame, yes. He is the head coach. For some reason he does not have our guys mentally ready or is not able to instill the mental fortitude to gut out these close games and make championship winning plays. Why is it that ND is the team that comes up with that pick at the end?? Just way too many examples to ignore this horrible trend.

Latest example: The miserable ND loss where yet again we snatch defeat from victory. ND had no business winning that game after the first quarter. We are running the ball at will, shutting their offense down yet we find a way to lose......again.

Here are some examples of opportunities to make winning plays and we make losing plays.

- Poor pass to Singleton in the flat and he can't come up with it but he had a shot.

-Cab't jump on a fumble right there for the taking.

-ND reeling with Leonard knocked out and we let a 3nd string QB come in cold and play like Joe Montana. Sre you freaking kidding me?!

-Fall down to give up a 60 yard game tying td on a team that really cannot throw the ball deep.

-Shrivel up on defense and inexplicably become less physical in the 2nd half and at winning time.

-Throw a horrendous ill advised pick to seal the fact we will lose the game. Our 5 star qb totally overwhelmed in the winning time moment. By the way, if that situation is reversed our DB never comes up with that pick. Why? That is winning time and we don't make winning plays in winning time.

Will this ever change under Franklin? Who knows, not looking good. Should Franklin be fired? No of course not now. But at some point, maybe after 2 or 3 or 5 seasons of this ineptitude and inability to win in the clutch a change will be needed at the top.

Agreed. The only caveat was Carter was the guy that wasn't able to secure the fumble. He only had one arm and to offensive lineman basically jumped on top of him and he couldn't really fight for the ball. If he was healthy that ball is ours.
And now that these kids are paid we should demand more. They are not amateurs anymore. If you want to be paid athletes and celebrate after every play like you won the Superbowl then start making plays in the clutch.

 

[PSU Soupy]

Agreed with the first half of this post....not the second half. The kids have not magically stopped making mistakes because they are paid....how would you explain the Cleveland Browns. Of course we can make that play we had a number of strip sacks.....sometimes the ball bounces to you, sometimes it does not. Why can Sawyer not make that play against Michigan??

 

[knickslions]

Ya we make that play but it would be called back on a bogus defensive holding call

 

[med2659]

you're right that so often against equal or slightly better teams players under Franklin mostly come up short in the big moments, especially late in games...could this just be coincidence, perhaps but the pattern has been so long and steady that it really makes one wonder...

this could be wrong but i have noticed when PSU is the better team or has a lead (even big leads with backups in) Franklin is very animated on the sidelines and will even get in players faces but when they are down or against a better team he just stays much more silent and physically just stands in one spot looking out to the middle of the field with this stare, a blank stare, too often, maybe the players sense and see this and adopt this mindset...

 

[ryoder1]

Agreed. The only caveat was Carter was the guy that wasn't able to secure the fumble. He only had one arm and to offensive lineman basically jumped on top of him and he couldn't really fight for the ball. If he was healthy that ball is ours.
And now that these kids are paid we should demand more. They are not amateurs anymore. If you want to be paid athletes and celebrate after every play like you won the Superbowl then start making plays in the clutch.

Good point on the fumble, just our effin luck.

 

[ryoder1]

Agreed with the first half of this post....not the second half. The kids have not magically stopped making mistakes because they are paid....how would you explain the Cleveland Browns. Of course we can make that play we had a number of strip sacks.....sometimes the ball bounces to you, sometimes it does not. Why can Sawyer not make that play against Michigan??

We can make it but almost never do when it counts. That is my point. Sawyer made it in the biggest moment. Michigan was not their biggest moment and that game is yesterday's news.

 

[MacNit2.0]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.


Here is my point. We never make the championship play in winning time against very good teams under Franklin. Well once in 2016 but we were a day late and a dollar short with 2 losses already in the books. Why is this? I wish I knew. Is it all Franklin's fault? No, players need to execute. Does Franklin need to share the blame? Yes, he is the head coach. For some reason he does not have our guys mentally ready or is not able to instill the mental fortitude to gut out these close games and make championship winning plays. Why is it that ND is the team that comes up with that pick at the end?? Just way too many examples to ignore this horrible trend.

Latest example: The miserable ND loss where yet again we snatch defeat from victory. ND had no business winning that game after the first quarter. We are running the ball at will, shutting their offense down yet we find a way to lose......again.

Here are some examples of opportunities to make winning plays and we make losing plays.

- Poor pass to Singleton in the flat and he can't come up with it but he had a shot.

-Can't jump on a fumble right there for the taking.

-ND reeling with Leonard knocked out and we let a 2nd string QB come in cold and play like Joe Montana. They seize momentum. No killer instinct. Are you freaking kidding me?!

-Fall down to give up a 60 yard game tying td on a team that really cannot throw the ball deep.

-Shrivel up on defense and inexplicably become less physical in the 2nd half and at winning time.

-Throw a horrendous ill advised pick to seal the fact we will lose the game. Our 5 star qb totally overwhelmed in the winning time moment. By the way, if that situation is reversed our DB never comes up with that pick. Why? That is winning time and we don't make winning plays in winning time.

Will this ever change under Franklin? Who knows, not looking good. Should Franklin be fired? No of course not now. But at some point, maybe after 2 or 3 or 5 seasons of this ineptitude and inability to win in the clutch a change will be needed at the top.

It’s 11 years running…I think you answered your own question.

 

[tboyer]

There was an element of luck to the play as the ball bounced up into Sawyer's breadbasket in full stride.

The play Penn State couldn't have made was the one made by Ohio State linebacker Sonny Styles (#6) who ran a semicircle around the Texas tailback to screen him off, otherwise he tackles Sawyer somewhere between the 40s. Still would have been game over but Styles showed incredible explosiveness to make that play. Styles one of the 7 (seven) former 5 stars on the Ohio State D.

 

[Waltwam]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.


Here is my point. We never make the championship play in winning time against very good teams under Franklin. Well once in 2016 but we were a day late and a dollar short with 2 losses already in the books. Why is this? I wish I knew. Is it all Franklin's fault? No, players need to execute. Does Franklin need to share the blame? Yes, he is the head coach. For some reason he does not have our guys mentally ready or is not able to instill the mental fortitude to gut out these close games and make championship winning plays. Why is it that ND is the team that comes up with that pick at the end?? Just way too many examples to ignore this horrible trend.

Latest example: The miserable ND loss where yet again we snatch defeat from victory. ND had no business winning that game after the first quarter. We are running the ball at will, shutting their offense down yet we find a way to lose......again.

Here are some examples of opportunities to make winning plays and we make losing plays.

- Poor pass to Singleton in the flat and he can't come up with it but he had a shot.

-Can't jump on a fumble right there for the taking.

-ND reeling with Leonard knocked out and we let a 2nd string QB come in cold and play like Joe Montana. They seize momentum. No killer instinct. Are you freaking kidding me?!

-Fall down to give up a 60 yard game tying td on a team that really cannot throw the ball deep.

-Shrivel up on defense and inexplicably become less physical in the 2nd half and at winning time.

-Throw a horrendous ill advised pick to seal the fact we will lose the game. Our 5 star qb totally overwhelmed in the winning time moment. By the way, if that situation is reversed our DB never comes up with that pick. Why? That is winning time and we don't make winning plays in winning time.

Will this ever change under Franklin? Who knows, not looking good. Should Franklin be fired? No of course not now. But at some point, maybe after 2 or 3 or 5 seasons of this ineptitude and inability to win in the clutch a change will be needed at the top.

We made a similar play last year at Ohio State but the officials conveniently came up with a holding call downfield on the play that nullified the great D by PSU. I'll bet they could have found something to call on OSU if they had watched closely!

 

[NittanyIllinois]

We made a similar play last year at Ohio State but the officials conveniently came up with a holding call downfield on the play that nullified the great D by PSU. I'll bet they could have found something to call on OSU if they had watched closely!

I was at the game. The holding against Marvin Harrison Jr. was, unfortunately, obvious.

 

[IANit]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.


Here is my point. We never make the championship play in winning time against very good teams under Franklin. Well once in 2016 but we were a day late and a dollar short with 2 losses already in the books. Why is this? I wish I knew. Is it all Franklin's fault? No, players need to execute. Does Franklin need to share the blame? Yes, he is the head coach. For some reason he does not have our guys mentally ready or is not able to instill the mental fortitude to gut out these close games and make championship winning plays. Why is it that ND is the team that comes up with that pick at the end?? Just way too many examples to ignore this horrible trend.

Latest example: The miserable ND loss where yet again we snatch defeat from victory. ND had no business winning that game after the first quarter. We are running the ball at will, shutting their offense down yet we find a way to lose......again.

Here are some examples of opportunities to make winning plays and we make losing plays.

- Poor pass to Singleton in the flat and he can't come up with it but he had a shot.

-Can't jump on a fumble right there for the taking.

-ND reeling with Leonard knocked out and we let a 2nd string QB come in cold and play like Joe Montana. They seize momentum. No killer instinct. Are you freaking kidding me?!

-Fall down to give up a 60 yard game tying td on a team that really cannot throw the ball deep.

-Shrivel up on defense and inexplicably become less physical in the 2nd half and at winning time.

-Throw a horrendous ill advised pick to seal the fact we will lose the game. Our 5 star qb totally overwhelmed in the winning time moment. By the way, if that situation is reversed our DB never comes up with that pick. Why? That is winning time and we don't make winning plays in winning time.

Will this ever change under Franklin? Who knows, not looking good. Should Franklin be fired? No of course not now. But at some point, maybe after 2 or 3 or 5 seasons of this ineptitude and inability to win in the clutch a change will be needed at the top.

If it was us the refs would find something to call a penalty on even if it was away from the action or rule it down. I feel like I've seen this numerous times. Usually in a big game where it would turn momentum our way. Ohio State last year comes to mind.

 

[IANit]

I was at the game. The holding against Marvin Harrison Jr. was, unfortunately, obvious.

It would have been called regardless.

 

[Noffinater]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play.

Up until last night, does Ohio State ever make that play? That was a highly improbable way to end a football game, let alone a CFP semifinal. Great players make great plays in big games.

 

[rrdd2021]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.

Different type DEs. Sawyer is more power - Carter is speed. And I've seen Sawyer in several 1st and early 2nd round NFL draft projections along with their other DE - that JTT character

 

[LandoComando]

I think Carter not falling on the fumble at the end of the first half answers your question
Carter played an amazing game but that hurt

 

[creamery freak]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.


Here is my point. We never make the championship play in winning time against very good teams under Franklin. Well once in 2016 but we were a day late and a dollar short with 2 losses already in the books. Why is this? I wish I knew. Is it all Franklin's fault? No, players need to execute. Does Franklin need to share the blame? Yes, he is the head coach. For some reason he does not have our guys mentally ready or is not able to instill the mental fortitude to gut out these close games and make championship winning plays. Why is it that ND is the team that comes up with that pick at the end?? Just way too many examples to ignore this horrible trend.

Latest example: The miserable ND loss where yet again we snatch defeat from victory. ND had no business winning that game after the first quarter. We are running the ball at will, shutting their offense down yet we find a way to lose......again.

Here are some examples of opportunities to make winning plays and we make losing plays.

- Poor pass to Singleton in the flat and he can't come up with it but he had a shot.

-Can't jump on a fumble right there for the taking.

-ND reeling with Leonard knocked out and we let a 2nd string QB come in cold and play like Joe Montana. They seize momentum. No killer instinct. Are you freaking kidding me?!

-Fall down to give up a 60 yard game tying td on a team that really cannot throw the ball deep.

-Shrivel up on defense and inexplicably become less physical in the 2nd half and at winning time.

-Throw a horrendous ill advised pick to seal the fact we will lose the game. Our 5 star qb totally overwhelmed in the winning time moment. By the way, if that situation is reversed our DB never comes up with that pick. Why? That is winning time and we don't make winning plays in winning time.

Will this ever change under Franklin? Who knows, not looking good. Should Franklin be fired? No of course not now. But at some point, maybe after 2 or 3 or 5 seasons of this ineptitude and inability to win in the clutch a change will be needed at the top.

If PSU made that play, some knucklehead about 20 yds behind the play would push a guy down from the back, and nullify the game changing play. Fallout from undisciplined play coming from the top.

 

[voltz99]

If PSU is in that situation we never make that play. Doubt we hold them out of the end zone. Why? That is the confounding question. Is Jack Sawyer better than Carter. Hell no. Better than DDS? A little bit. Is our D-Line not that good? No we are very good particularly off the edge. By the way I am saying even with a healthy Carter that type of play in that situation ain't happening for us.


Here is my point. We never make the championship play in winning time against very good teams under Franklin. Well once in 2016 but we were a day late and a dollar short with 2 losses already in the books. Why is this? I wish I knew. Is it all Franklin's fault? No, players need to execute. Does Franklin need to share the blame? Yes, he is the head coach. For some reason he does not have our guys mentally ready or is not able to instill the mental fortitude to gut out these close games and make championship winning plays. Why is it that ND is the team that comes up with that pick at the end?? Just way too many examples to ignore this horrible trend.

Latest example: The miserable ND loss where yet again we snatch defeat from victory. ND had no business winning that game after the first quarter. We are running the ball at will, shutting their offense down yet we find a way to lose......again.

Here are some examples of opportunities to make winning plays and we make losing plays.

- Poor pass to Singleton in the flat and he can't come up with it but he had a shot.

-Can't jump on a fumble right there for the taking.

-ND reeling with Leonard knocked out and we let a 2nd string QB come in cold and play like Joe Montana. They seize momentum. No killer instinct. Are you freaking kidding me?!

-Fall down to give up a 60 yard game tying td on a team that really cannot throw the ball deep.

-Shrivel up on defense and inexplicably become less physical in the 2nd half and at winning time.

-Throw a horrendous ill advised pick to seal the fact we will lose the game. Our 5 star qb totally overwhelmed in the winning time moment. By the way, if that situation is reversed our DB never comes up with that pick. Why? That is winning time and we don't make winning plays in winning time.

Will this ever change under Franklin? Who knows, not looking good. Should Franklin be fired? No of course not now. But at some point, maybe after 2 or 3 or 5 seasons of this ineptitude and inability to win in the clutch a change will be needed at the top.

Does osu make that play vs michigan?

Did osu make that play vs anyone the last 10 years?

 

[ryoder1]

We made a similar play last year at Ohio State but the officials conveniently came up with a holding call downfield on the play that nullified the great D by PSU. I'll bet they could have found something to call on OSU if they had watched closely!

It was a penalty on us by Kalen King. You prove my point, we make a winning play but no wait it is not a winning play because we make a terrible penalty so in the end it is a losing play in a critical game at a critical juncture that could have been huge for us.

 

[ryoder1]

Up until last night, does Ohio State ever make that play? That was a highly improbable way to end a football game, let alone a CFP semifinal. Great players make great plays in big games.

It would have been some other great play. This one is a good example.

 

[Westcoast24]

We made a similar play last year at Ohio State but the officials conveniently came up with a holding call downfield on the play that nullified the great D by PSU. I'll bet they could have found something to call on OSU if they had watched closely!

Was that the one where they called a hold on the player covering Marvin Harrison?

 

[ryoder1]

Does osu make that play vs michigan?

Did osu make that play vs anyone the last 10 years?

It is not a play just like that. It is any kind of winning play in the clutch and the list is long versus us. Their receivers coming up big in both the 4th quarter of the '17 and '18 games. Tuimoloau pick 6 in '22, Harrison Jr td catch in '23, defensive stand in '24.

Yes they have come up short vs Michigan but it didn't matter this year. We never seem to come up with the clutch play in the biggest moments.

 

[NittanyIllinois]

It would have been called regardless.

So you're saying the refs would have called defensive holding even if there was no defensive holding?

Yeah, that's silly. Some people here are completely incapable of recognizing that not everything is a conspiracy to screw us.

It was the worst timed penalty you could imagine. But Kalen King CLEARLY held him. He was handsy all day long. It got handsy at exactly the wrong moment.

As a fan, gotta own it. I'm old enough to remember plenty of calls that went our way. Nebraska 1982, anybody? We don't win a title without it.

That's the nature of the game. But in this case, the call was obvious.

 

[PSU Soupy]

We can make it but almost never do when it counts. That is my point. Sawyer made it in the biggest moment. Michigan was not their biggest moment and that game is yesterday's news.l

In the regular season it was their biggest game. It is a great play coming at a fortunate time.

Sawyer is a good/great college player, not sure that his game 100% translates to the NFL.

 

[bourbon n blues]

you're right that so often against equal or slightly better teams players under Franklin mostly come up short in the big moments, especially late in games...could this just be coincidence, perhaps but the pattern has been so long and steady that it really makes one wonder...

this could be wrong but i have noticed when PSU is the better team or has a lead (even big leads with backups in) Franklin is very animated on the sidelines and will even get in players faces but when they are down or against a better team he just stays much more silent and physically just stands in one spot looking out to the middle of the field with this stare, a blank stare, too often, maybe the players sense and see this and adopt this mindset...

Joe was stopped on a goal line stage against bama. Back then we were considered a choke team. PSU has made great plays on D and still does.

 

[scrivener]

We made a similar play last year at Ohio State but the officials conveniently came up with a holding call downfield on the play that nullified the great D by PSU. I'll bet they could have found something to call on OSU if they had watched closely!

Lol conveniently...it was a hold on Kalen King.. clear as day.

 

[bourbon n blues]

It is not a play just like that. It is any kind of winning play in the clutch and the list is long versus us. Their receivers coming up big in both the 4th quarter of the '17 and '18 games. Tuimoloau pick 6 in '22, Harrison Jr td catch in '23, defensive stand in '24.

Yes they have come up short vs Michigan but it didn't matter this year. We never seem to come up with the clutch play in the biggest moments.

In the 2018 game trace crossed the line of scrimmage by a few yards then threw a pass when he could've ran for the first down on the last driving game. He makes the first out of his feet we probably wouldn't have 2018 In that game Miles Sanders fumbled inside the 20 giving Ohio State and easy touchdown drive .

It's convenient how you forget these plays.

 

[bourbon n blues]

It is not a play just like that. It is any kind of winning play in the clutch and the list is long versus us. Their receivers coming up big in both the 4th quarter of the '17 and '18 games. Tuimoloau pick 6 in '22, Harrison Jr td catch in '23, defensive stand in '24.

Yes they have come up short vs Michigan but it didn't matter this year. We never seem to come up with the clutch play in the biggest moments.

By the way, McSorley also blew the pit game with a late pick when he had another wide receiver open, a win there would've put us in the playoffs. And if you recall at the end of the USC game he threw an interception late..

There's three big games that McSorley blew right near the end. In those cases of it wasn't the wide receivers or the defense failing to make a stop.

 

[Waltwam]

Lol conveniently...it was a hold on Kalen King.. clear as day.
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And oof course they catch it on that play but " conveniently " miss clear as day holding calls against Abdul! I think there ought to be replay challenges on missed calls. Maybe the day will come when that's a reality!

 

[Waltwam]

It was a penalty on us by Kalen King. You prove my point, we make a winning play but no wait it is not a winning play because we make a terrible penalty so in the end it is a losing play in a critical game at a critical juncture that could have been huge for us.

And of course we know Ohio State is so fundamentally sound that they don't commit penalties at inopportune times!

 

[ryoder1]

In the 2018 game trace crossed the line of scrimmage by a few yards then threw a pass when he could've ran for the first down on the last driving game. He makes the first out of his feet we probably wouldn't have 2018 In that game Miles Sanders fumbled inside the 20 giving Ohio State and easy touchdown drive .

It's convenient how you forget these plays.

So we make losing plays in the clutch. Same old same old. Our opponent makes winning plays and we make losing plays. I love Trace but him chucking up that prayer to Godwin in the Rose Bowl was a losing play in the clutch.

 

[bourbon n blues]

So we make losing plays in the clutch. Same old same old. Our opponent makes winning plays and we make losing plays. I love Trace but him chucking up that prayer to Godwin in the Rose Bowl was a losing play in the clutch.

Yep, if you recall many people have called him out on that or did call him out on it back in the day. I saw plenty of criticism on the 50-50 balls you throw back then. He displayed poor decision making in clutch times.

And I don't think that's something you can necessarily coach in a player. I recall major-league baseball or some news outlet publishing a list of the top major league baseball clutch players. I think it started in 1970s if I'm not mistaken the Cincinnati Reds had a majority of baseball clutch players.


We recall that 1970s era Cincinnati team you'll remember that they had Johnny bench, George Foster, and Pete Rose win MVP awards. Then you had multiple gold glove players on that team along with other clutch players like Tony Perez and Dan Dreissen. If you watch baseball back then you'll also recall that these were some of the best players of that era and a few of them are Hall of Fame players.

The best of the best make clutch plays.

 

[Waltwam]

So you're saying the refs would have called defensive holding even if there was no defensive holding?

Yeah, that's silly. Some people here are completely incapable of recognizing that not everything is a conspiracy to screw us.

It was the worst timed penalty you could imagine. But Kalen King CLEARLY held him. He was handsy all day long. It got handsy at exactly the wrong moment.

As a fan, gotta own it. I'm old enough to remember plenty of calls that went our way. Nebraska 1982, anybody? We don't win a title without it.

That's the nature of the game. But in this case, the call was obvious.

Do you remember the ball that bounced on the ground and was called an interception for OSU. Do you remember the play clock down to zero for 3-4 seconds before OSU kicked a fg? We can't even get legitimate calls against OSU on our home field.

 

[ryoder1]

Yep, if you recall many people have called him out on that or did call him out on it back in the day. I saw plenty of criticism on the 50-50 balls you throw back then. He displayed poor decision making in clutch times.

And I don't think that's something you can necessarily coach in a player. I recall major-league baseball or some news outlet publishing a list of the top major league baseball clutch players. I think it started in 1970s if I'm not mistaken the Cincinnati Reds had a majority of baseball clutch players.


We recall that 1970s era Cincinnati team you'll remember that they had Johnny bench, George Foster, and Pete Rose win MVP awards. Then you had multiple gold glove players on that team along with other clutch players like Tony Perez and Dan Dreissen. If you watch baseball back then you'll also recall that these were some of the best players of that era and a few of them are Hall of Fame players.

The best of the best make clutch plays.

The Big Red Machine was awesome. Clutch players all over the field.

 

[NittanyIllinois]

Do you remember the ball that bounced on the ground and was called an interception for OSU. Do you remember the play clock down to zero for 3-4 seconds before OSU kicked a fg? We can't even get legitimate calls against OSU on our home field.

In the 2014 game? No doubt. Blown calls, obviously. Two years later, we got the favor returned with the no call on the obvious DPI late in the game after JT Barrett threw deep. Probably would have set OSU up to tie the game at a minimum.

These things happen and generally even out over the long run. Every fan base bitches about the refs.

 

[PAgeologist]

One clutch, game winning play against a top opponent. The field goal block, scoop and score against OSU.

 

[ryoder1]

One clutch, game winning play against a top opponent. The field goal block, scoop and score against OSU.

Yes. one in a decade.

 

[dailybuck777]

Agreed with the first half of this post....not the second half. The kids have not magically stopped making mistakes because they are paid....how would you explain the Cleveland Browns. Of course we can make that play we had a number of strip sacks.....sometimes the ball bounces to you, sometimes it does not. Why can Sawyer not make that play against Michigan??

Sawyer had a big time game against Michigan including an interception in the end zone at a crucial time of the game.

 

[PAgeologist]

Yes. one in a decade.

I'll argue one more. Although it was to start the game, rather than end it. The 2 pick 6s against SMU were huge and essentially ended that game before it started. Plus the 3rd pick after Franklin handed SMU the ball on the failed 4th down.

 

[okinburg1]

IIRC Sawyer did not have a sack or any other impactful plays when PSU played OSU this season.