OT: "Bulletproof" coffee?

[T J]

I echo your last statement. You seem to have found something that works for you. I respect that you believe in it enough to share and try to help others. If your doctor says it's a good idea, who am I to disagree.

I expect my cardiologist will say NFW. But I'm always willing to test the things I think I know. If I'm wrong, I'll follow up with you.

My comments are about the peer-reviewed research and advanced testing methods with wide-ranging implications, for better outcomes for lots of people.

It takes time to get cardiologists and others to learn and adapt to modern research, just like with many other fields.

Insurance companies put up barriers to change as well. It can take years for them to modernize and adapt.

Committees who regulate and create guidelines often include individuals with strong self-interest in specific outcomes, or the status quo. Barriers to change can include positions and places of employment, business arrangements, patents, investments, books, teaching contracts, hospital financing, capital investments in old discarded methods, outdated testing protocols, obsoleting or lowering use of profitable medications, research funding etc.

Lots of things hinder progress.

The important factor is adopting strategies that best fit the situation for the individual.

Taking a pro-active stance during times of change, may require getting additional "opinions" from practitioners who are actually updated and trained in the newer understandings.

That step may or may not lead to a better approach for a specific individual. But, more modern, updated "evidenced-based medicine" and informed decision-making may be able to help a lot of people.

Many individuals may have care options optimized for their situation, instead of optimized for a system that has not yet caught up to the more modern research advances.

Good luck jdm202, with whatever lies ahead...

 

[T J]

I could google it but what I remember being told to me was the grass-fed cows create a different type/size of lipid in the butter, which is another source of good fat plus adding the creaminess of texture. Never tried double coco, no butter.

Depending upon the source and processing, it may contain more CLA - Conjugated Linoleic Acid and/or more Omega-3 oils.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Every morning.

I do pour-over 16 oz brew with filtered water
1 TB ea Grass Fed butter(Kerrygold) and Coconut Oil
Blend with a stick blender

There are many health benefits including the MCT in Coco oil, etc but I just love the taste at this point.

Which end do you use to ingest this concoction?

 

[T J]

Which end do you use to ingest this concoction?

It pours out of the top of your favorite cup or mug, ya mug.

 

[palehorse]

Oh, ok.

I'm not about to call doctors idiots, but the number of credit hours in nutrition they need to become a doctor is shockingly low. Your average doctor is also dealing with info that could be a decade old or more at the point they are advising you. There has been a major shift in the prevailing wisdom with regard to fat, fiber, and carbohydrate(sugar) intake in the optimal diet over the last decade. The food pyramid is a dinosaur that nver should've been pushed on the american public. The rate of heart disease in the US skyrocketed after WWII when they began pushing that agenda. The average american took in 35-45 grams of fiber prior to WWII and now many struggle to get 10/day.

 

[CentexLion]

Yeah the myth that fat itself is the culprit wrt bad cholesterol levels and heart disease was busted a long time ago, and the FDA/AgDept finally got on board last year.

As a side note, I met a homeopath in Santa Monica, and she had me really cut down on my raw fruits. I would eat 1-2 apples, 1-2 oranges, melon, grapes, etc as snacks throughout the day. She had me cut back to 1 piece of fruit a day and my Triglycerides, which were 300 without medicine, dropped to 120 without medicine. Her premise is that my body was getting too much sugar via the fruits. I never had anyone in the medical field tell me to stop eating fruit. I agree that most physicians have really no idea about true nutrition, and as a whole, we are learning exponentially about food and the body.

The old joke: what do you call a person that finishes last in medical school graduating class? Answer: Doctor. Like anything else, there are good ones and bad ones. Find the one that matches what you need. I have a good balance, I believe, between my Internest and Homeopath now, along with a strong exercise routine.

 

[91Joe95]

Recently heard of this on TOOS, and looked it up. 1-2 tablespoons of each unsalted butter and coconut oil in your morning coffee -- to give you boost of energy and focus. Supposedly good for your overall health as well.

Anyone ever try it?

I tried it for the first time this morning. Really did seem to work. Definitely good energy, and I stayed much more focused on my work than usual. Hope this is legit and not just a placebo effect.

If anyone else has tried it and has any feedback, I'd love to hear about it.

TIA

Its called breakfast. Calories in the morning=improved performance throughout the day. You could substitute healthier foods than butter and coconut oil (or worse) and get the same affect.

 

[91Joe95]

That's interesting. But you were the same guy pushing coconut water for hangovers a few years ago.

What investments do you have in coconuts?

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

[QUOTE="BoulderFish, post: 2630854, member: 77435"MDs (the kind you visit at the doctor's office) aren't thinkers. They aren't problem solvers. They're memorizers [/QUOTE]
Tell me Brandon,

Aren't you essentially a "memorizer"?

 

[MICH.Nit Fan]

All of this recent talk about MCT oil (a brand of this MCT oil is called Bulletproof, hence adding this MCT oil to your coffee makes it "bulletproof" coffee) mostly centers around folks who are eating a high fat (only good natural fats), moderate protein, low carb diet in order to get their bodies into nutritional ketosis. This diet was initially developed for folks that were type 2 diabetics and also back in the 20's for disorders such as epilepsy. Recent studies have found this diet is beneficial for pretty much anyone that doesn't have an insanely high carb tolerance (as we age and continue to consume carbs our bodies be less sensitive to insulin thus develope a carb intolerance or insulin insensitivity).

If you want to learn more about this diet/lifestyle I'd highly recommend watching any videos or reading any books by Dr. Stephen Phinney or Dr. Jeff Volek. They are the world leaders in this field and have done numerous peer reviewed and published studies. They wrote a few books together one of which is called "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living". They found that about only 10% of people can handle continuous high amounts of carbs in their diets without eventually becoming a pre or type 2 diabetic at some point.

They also determined that the food pyramid that has been pushed to everyone the past few decades needs to be flipped upside down. Same thing goes with Sodium. There was a recent study published in the N.E. Journal of Medicine back in 2014 that found the optimum level of sodium intake (least mortality rate) is between 4 and 6 GRAMS per day. Which is at least twice what main stream folks advise (about 2.3 grams sodium/day).

I've been following this diet (70% cal from fat, 20% from protein, and 10% from carbs (mostly all from vegetables)) for about 1 month now and have lost about 20 lbs. This was only from adjusting my diet as I don't do any working out other than sports here and there on the weekends.

If you don't mind my prying question, how old are you? I mean no questioning of your post.

 

[loosey goosey]

Some of my friends in Aspen drink it,but I'm a dirty chia fan.

 

[T J]

Its called breakfast. Calories in the morning=improved performance throughout the day. You could substitute healthier foods than butter and coconut oil (or worse) and get the same affect.

Surprising new research may counter what many people believe are "healthier foods" and outline why many folks do not get the same effects from food choices, as they might now imagine.

Stay tuned in the next 3-5 years as more breakthrough research information comes out.

There is fairly recent comprehensive analysis, with conclusions backed by over 1,000 medical studies. It tracing research back over one hundred years. Many people may be surprised at the creation of "destructive" and major disease enhancing effects, from what many people thought were foods with no negative side effects.

It's a pretty persuasive compilation of research that appears to put together lots of pieces of the puzzles, regarding some major deadly diseases.

Further reviews will no doubt kick the tires in many ways, for years to come, as they should. However, it may be that some common understandings of what "everybody knows" are completely harmless foods, were not fully grounded in how the body works.

Time will tell.

 

[WeR0206]

If you don't mind my prying question, how old are you? I mean no questioning of your post.

Mid 30's.

 

[91Joe95]

Some of my friends in Aspen drink it,but I'm a dirty chia fan.

There's a dirty sanchez joke somewhere in there...

 

[The Spin Meister]

Honestly, it's not going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference.

Actually, it might make a huge difference. I know a cardiologist that had patients switch to this diet against his advice and became much healthier in less than a year. Arteries opened up, lost weight, lower cholesterol, and more energy. After doing some research, he now goes by this diet.

One aspect that no one has mentioned is inflammation. Studies have shown that inflammation in the arteries is a major cause of heart attacks and other arterial diseases. These high fat diets lesson inflammation and reduce arterial diseases, including strokes.

Nothing is guaranteed as we are just trying to increase our odds. New diets such as this may help many but hurt others as we all react differently. But most seem to at least improve their lives with it. Don't know anything about your state of health but perhaps researching the diet and trying to find an expert on it in your locale would be worth it.

Does any one know if this helps with aneurysms? Seems it would but I am not sure.

 

[heckmans]

Butter is a healthy fat? I'll have to let my doctor know because he keeps insisting that I curtail my intake.

Art, you are the smartest guy around..or at least I assume since you demean the intelligence of everyone here on BWI. I can't believe you would take your doctor's word for anything at face value. What the hell does he know? He went to a school supported by drug and medical device companies. Scalpels and pharma rule the day and are reinforced by trial lawyers filing malpractice suits for anything straying from the norm with expert witnesses willing to tell juries that scalpels and drugs are the only legitimate options.

We now know that the sugar industry paid for studies to show that fat was the bad guy(links below) back in the day. The means by which the American Heart Assoc came to endorse a low fat diet, based on one dubious study, has been exposed(can't find the link at the moment). There is a growing body of evidence that suggests high fat does not lead to heart disease and lack of saturated fats leads to brain function degeneration and increased risk for dementia and Alzheimers...but of course, please make snide comments about your doctor's advice and your advanced understanding of how the body reacts to the food pyramid diet over a lifetime.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html?_r=0
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

 

[WeR0206]

Actually, it might make a huge difference. I know a cardiologist that had patients switch to this diet against his advice and became much healthier in less than a year. Arteries opened up, lost weight, lower cholesterol, and more energy. After doing some research, he now goes by this diet.

One aspect that no one has mentioned is inflammation. Studies have shown that inflammation in the arteries is a major cause of heart attacks and other arterial diseases. These high fat diets lesson inflammation and reduce arterial diseases, including strokes.

Nothing is guaranteed as we are just trying to increase our odds. New diets such as this may help many but hurt others as we all react differently. But most seem to at least improve their lives with it. Don't know anything about your state of health but perhaps researching the diet and trying to find an expert on it in your locale would be worth it.

Does any one know if this helps with aneurysms? Seems it would but I am not sure.

I'm pretty sure it does since it was used to treat something similar, epilepsy, back in the 20's.

You make a good point re: anti inflammatory effects of this diet. In addition to that it also produces less oxidative "exhaust" compared to burnjng carbs.

Video of Dr. Stephen Phinney

 

[palehorse]

I suggest anyone interested in this topic to check out "Sugar Coated" on Netflix.

 

[BobPSU92]

There's a dirty sanchez joke somewhere in there...

 

[Alphabets]

I like my coffee like i like my women......slutty with low self esteem.

But seriously, black. Seattle's Best 4 or 5, black. Delicious.

 

[elvis63]

I buy my coffee beans from yankeeprepper.com. They carry coffee from all around the world and try to buy from small independent farmers if that matters to you. It's good stuff. Don't buy silly ass gimmick coffees.

 

[K-Space]

Most (medical) doctors are idiots. Just an fyi.

Wanted to let this post go without further comment, but you @BoulderFish deserve to be called out for referring to MOST physicians as idiots, which is incredibly simplistic and insulting to those "memorizers" that devote their lives to caring for others. The premise other posters respectfully shared that physicians receive little training in nutrition is completely valid, but it's funny, they are these well trained people creatively called nutritionists that most physicians I know encourage their patients to utilize. Unfortunately we live in a society where people possess little initiative to follow food guidelines (new or antiquated) that differ from what their belly desires.

You also clearly have no understanding of what being a physician requires given your subsequent posts about just memorizing medical facts and regurgitating a treatment, as if there is a simple cause and effect to disease. Your very limited sample size has not exposed you to the complex variables analyzed and considered by physicians when diagnosing, treating, and reassessing disease states. Many of the greatest medical breakthroughs in knowledge, devices and treatments were conceived and developed by medical doctors.

Perhaps your opinion of M.D.s stems from that fact that none has ever taken the time to explain mechanisms of disease or their rationale for treatment to you - but I strongly suspect that is because they picked up on the fact that you are just an arrogant pr*#k that didn't deserve their time? There will be a day when you or a loved one are in total despair looking up to that MD seeking help - and I sure hope that among the hundreds of thousands of MDs out there, you manage to find one of the few that isn't an idiot.

We in the medical profession could only hope to keep up with your intellect, but then again I would bet that MOST physicians could handle your piss-ant job while using a fraction of the cerebral capacity that it takes you. As one of those memorizers you referred to, I can't help but recall scattered tidbits about you like your proclivity for crocs, your self-reported elite track speed and your manipulation of migrant laborers to do your renovations. Thoughtful consideration of your posting history tells me that you suffer dearly from various physical and emotional inadequacies, all of which clearly points to your microphallus.