Interesting. I was under rhe impression that private PIAA schools could only offer need-based aid in HS.
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If Erie Prep offers scholarships to the general population, then PIAA probably can't force the school to exclude athletes -- that would be a large part of any school's student body.
LOL prep is somehow diff like most prep schools!they manage to get around every rule!
That's different. If they offer them foe everybody, then the scholarship is not for athletics. I think would be prohibited if scholly was awarded for athletic ability.
The ol' joke about needs-based aid: we need you, you'te getting aid.
Not really sure where to put this but, legendary UPJ coach Pat Pecora passed away today.
Great guy, great coach, he will be missed by many
PIAA regional alignments are up for 2nd reading this week need 3 to be official.
Steering committee recommended AAA state qualifiers.
If passed AAA
NW will get 2
SW will get 4
NE will get 4
SC will get 5
SE will get 5
AA still at
SW 7
NW 4
NE 4
SE 5
Steering committee recommended AAA state qualifiers.
If passed AAA
NW will get 2
SW will get 4
NE will get 4
SC will get 5
SE will get 5
AA still at
SW 7
NW 4
NE 4
SE 5
From the D10 AAA standpoint, it makes sense that NW AAA gets only 2. Erie Prep and Hickory dropped down this cycle and only Harbor Creek went up. Harbor Creek only went up due to a co-op with Iroquois. Otherwise D10 AAA is just Meadville, McDowell, Erie High, and Harbor Creek. D10 AA is gonna be even more of a meat grinder with Hickory coming back down and Prep dropping down
Looks like they removed the "minimum of 3" qualifiers/region detail. WPIAL has to be smiling about this.
Only deviations from the straight “by the numbers” is when the WPIAL is supposed to lose a qualifier. I mean I get it but it’s not at all fair to only look at competitive balance in those situations.
Had this been in effect in March 2024, Pierson Manville would've been in a True 2nd Place match at regionals.
so would have Dalton Perry. But not one of the 3rd place finishers in NW AAA finished on the podium. Overall, they had 15% of the state tournament entrants and won 7.7% of the medals.
Maybe Perry depending on PIAA rules. He did beat the 3rd place finisher earlier at regionals, which at many events means no True 2nd match.
There does seem to be a lot of maneuvering done to please the WPIAL. Traditionally the WPIAL liked their own regional tournament, but when things started to change the AA WPIAL thought hey, let's move 6AA and 5AA in with us and we can have 7 qualifiers and let 10AA and 9AA have a couple.
It’s common logic that letting WPIAL AAA keep their 4th qualifier is better for competition but I hate the fact that it’s only manipulated when it favors WPIAL. NE AAA got screwed last cycle.
You either go by the numbers or you don’t. You don’t change it to favor one region only.
You either go by the numbers or you don’t. You don’t change it to favor one region only.
yes well usually its the west that gets screwed it every sport since all the power leaders are in the East!
well you seem to thinks its ok for the East??it should be equal for both sides!how long before all lpayoffs teams are all from the east?
In the early 90’s district 7 & 5 made up the SW region and D6 went north. SW was allotted only 3 qualifiers at that time. In the late 90’s WPIAL D6 was included in the SW but only 4 qualifiers advanced. Same districts now but 7 qualifiers, guys from the late 90’s who placed 5th have to be shaking their heads
Who will be the top AAA teams in the WPIAL this year? From what I am hearing, Connellsville has the best team top to bottom. Will anyone test them?
In terms of duals, your guess is as good as mine.
As a tournament team, they don't have the star power of other teams. 2 placers (S3 Petrovich S3 + S5 Vielma), plus two SQ guys. That was 15th at Hershey.
Thomas Jefferson probably outscores them again with just Shaw and Barlow. Plus their HWT won regionals but DNP at states.
Latrobe will be up there with 3 returning placers (Joseph, Willochell, Snyder).
Pine Richland with Spencer + Ferraro will also be there.
Norwin, if anyone steps up to go along with Sidun.
Maybe Kiski, depending on how big a splash Hutcherson makes. They have 2 other returning low-podium placers. S6 Rocosky is the top returning placer if he stays at 189, but several 172s are better if they move up.
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not to mention why are schools from the east allowed to get in the playoffs in the western part of the state,talk about unfair??all districts shoult get the same amount of playoff team in their own district end of story to bad eastern leaders run the PIAA and do as they please!
From what I am hearing Connellsville doesn’t have star power but they are tough through the lineup. I know they had a good Jr. High team.
Curious if Latrobe has enough around Joseph, Snyder, and Willochell.
Kiski Area may be the wild card team. They should be strong up top with Hutcherson, Roscosky, and Gray. Gray was out most of the year with a shoulder. He is committed to Columbia I think. Hutcherson is the best freshman in the WPIAL and it isn't even close.
Norwin has Sidun but no clue who else to go around him.
Thomas Jefferson with Shaw, Marlow, and the HWT Turk. I think they have a good 107lber also.
Franklin Regional should be solid I think.
Looks like the latest plan for AAA from the steering committee to the PIAA board is to split into 4 regions. The wording from the meetings gets a little garbled and it makes it look like some motions were denied and some are not so I’m not 100%. We’ll know tomorrow.
WEST
D6
D7
D8
D9
D10
SOUTH CENTRAL
D3
SOUTHEAST
D1
NORTHEAST
D2
D4
D11
D12
All regions come out to 61-63 teams
5 SQ from each region.
WEST
D6
D7
D8
D9
D10
SOUTH CENTRAL
D3
SOUTHEAST
D1
NORTHEAST
D2
D4
D11
D12
All regions come out to 61-63 teams
5 SQ from each region.
This would change nothing for district one and would make the whole 5 region thing less confusing. I like it. Also as long as D11, D7, D3, and D1 are separate it isn't going to be too big of an effect.
I like it too. Simpler is better.
The biggest effect will be a new host city for the western regional. Last year's 2 hosts (NW Altoona and SW Canon MacMillan) are inconvenient for a combined regional.
Also, D4-9 will get split up. Will D4 and D9 get their own events, or will they get shoehorned (D4 with D2, D9 with D6 or D10)?
Hopefully this passes.
The biggest effect will be a new host city for the western regional. Last year's 2 hosts (NW Altoona and SW Canon MacMillan) are inconvenient for a combined regional.
Also, D4-9 will get split up. Will D4 and D9 get their own events, or will they get shoehorned (D4 with D2, D9 with D6 or D10)?
Hopefully this passes.
D9 AAA and D10 AAA should be together in the western region imo. D10 AAA is only 4 teams and D9 AAA has around the same. I believe the easternmost D9 AAA team is DuBois and they’re right on I80 so they could be at most western locations within an hour or two. 3 of the D10 AAA teams are in or near Erie and the fourth is in Meadville right off I79. Overall though, I like the concept. Keeps things balanced and simple.
Looks like d9 staying West but there was a note of them checking with their schools on preference between staying with D4 and going NE or West. D4 has 5 or 6 teams so they can hold their own. D9 had 3. They need to combine with someone by rule.
I can't imagine D9 schools opting for NE Regionals -- held almost every year in the Allentown-Bethlehem area.
"Checking with the schools" sounds like checking the box.
The SW AA regional was held at Altoona without it being too much of a big deal.
Yes, and the NW AAA regional was held there too. Guessing the D9 and D10 schools are not happy with the travel time (3.5 hrs each way from Erie) and would prefer something closer to home.
Kittaning is almost equidistant from Erie, Waynesburg, and Lock Haven. Regionals should be held somewhere near there.
No it was terrible I'm am very glad I never have to go back to that school.
You can only get 3 mats on the Clarion floor. A typical Friday night with 6, 8, 9 and 10 and 12 man brackets lasts forever. Clarion isn't capable of hosting a regional tournament with 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 in it.
A very important reason Canon Mac or Altoona are used is there is enough floor space as well as seating to make it work.
