Not sure how true this is but I heard Butler beat Herring last year in the wrestle off for the post season spot. That was shocking to me when I heard it. I assumed Herring was hurt for the post season.
Herring was hurt during late season and all of post season, Spontak? Took his place
I spoke with Baum - he plans to be at 133. Detar was 125 at the East Stroudsburg open and looked good. I'd peg him at 121, maybe 127.
I doubt Detar goes 127 with Seidel at Districts. You would think he goes 121 post season. I am curious how FCA 121 shakes out?
FCA 121 is prolly Joey Bachmann with Botero going 127. Unless they decide to flip for some reason
I'm guessing Baum will change his mind about that. Keystone Caliber is showing both Forrest and Seidel at 133.
Caines is from the NE Region.
Thanks. I thought Caines was Hanover? Is there 2 Hanovers?
Personally I have no clue. I talk to some people here and there and hear some things. I try and not say too much stuff cause I feel weird saying things people tell me in private. Common sense tells me top kids want to be a state champ. But you also have to be realistic and know barring an injury no one is beating Bassett or Forrest at states. So you would think any top kid is avoiding 133 with Forrest there. Now someone posted a bit ago about Forrest dropping to 127 to get a better line up for McCort? Then I could see Baum dropping to 133. Same with 127 and if it is just Seidel and Forrest stays at 133, some kids are dropping to 121. We just have to wait and see how it shakes out.
Freddie is a lock. Yes. Kids been an animal since seeing him at 45 pounds at pjws. No one is touching him.
We have just entered a bizarro world in which somebody else tells Brock about Rothermel possibly beating Bachmann.
121/127 AA is deeeep. Deputy, Music, Stewart, and Guenot all lurking in addition to those already mentioned. Carfley, freshman from McCort, about to hit the scene.
Haha. Exactly!! They must be on a break for him to not mention Brock. Actually I am hoping for a surprise at 121. Will leave it at that.
Just wandering what u think is head scratching. Their weights were searched in depth but am sure some are still very wrong because not everyone competes in the off season. I admit, I did make up Stein at 145 and Wagner at 139 but that was just to get the best FCA kids in a preseason ranking. Without that adjustment, I would have had to leave one of Wagner Stein or Hontz out. Leaving Shane Wagner out is tough enough lol. Also, 107 is definitely a trap shoot in a preseason ranking. I admit several times below in the comments this detail. Much much much more familiar with the Eastern side of 107 and 114 so some Western Young stud newcomers are probably missing but I also make this clear in the comments. The McCort kids are ranked exactly were I was told to rank them. The Iowa recruit was left off the preseason ranking cuz I don't think he is healthy presently.
I thought that you did a great job, especially considering it's preseason. Of course there are some weights that will be off, and you'll get some I told you sos due to kids who jumped levels or peaked early.
Yep, they are basically to get people talking about the start of the season. Weights will be all correct as soon as everyone wrestles. Some people take them way to serious. U should see my inbox messages about Little Johnny being 2-2 at PJWs and how it's a travesty that he didn't make the ranking. My favorite ones are my son would have been at States but he got hurt or was banged up. What people fail to realize is my own kids wrestle. Am 100% not trying to insult anyone when putting out a ranking. And just a side note, I do not use any National rankings or other State rankings to assist with my rankings.
Weights will be off until February regardless. Some wrestling up to help the team in duals, others on their way down, yet more bumping after studs drop...
I don't think he will either, but if he can't get to another weight then he will scrap. If you know Seidel, then you know he is the type of kid to not run from anyone.
I respect your time and effort with them. This is just my opinion based off the fact I follow high school wrestling in PA like it's my religion. Here are my thoughts respectively.
I do not do any of the AAA rankings on that page. I only do AA and have CJ Caines ranked #2 right behind Freddy Bachmann. Not many people in the State follow AA wrestling more then myself. They obviously aren't perfect, no ranking will ever be. I stated many many times on that site that I do not partake in AAA rankings because I do not follow AAA as closely as AA.
My apologies I did not know that about you mainly do AA. I apologize for that.
As for the incoming freshmen list for AA that is more of a what do you do at PJWs list as an 8th grade aside from Bachmann. The finalists are listed 1st, followed by placers in AA. Maybe I should title the list differently next season.
Makes sense. Trust me I'm not knocking you. Doing those rankings take time and a lot of effort. Honestly AA and AAA combined the top 3 kids are 1. Bachmann, 2 Hutcherson, 3 Wenrich. After those three it's really up in the air and many kids can be top 20.
With all this being said. Keep doing your rankings every year, it's good for the sport and guys like me love to read them and so do others. PA Power top Incoming Freshman rankings were very good. My buddies and I are PA high school and middle school wrestling junkies. We discussed your rankings in our group text for about a whole day. We love it!
Rothermel will have to beat Joey Bachmann or Seidel. Not saying he can't but it's a tall order.
