Paterno v. NCAA

[Cruising Route 66]

Right, because it does not matter that the whole world finds out that the BoT and Freeh were lying when they said it was an "independent report." You know CR, sometimes you forget that you spend most of your time here pretending that your friends on the OG BoT are not liars. Of course, none of us believe you when you say that, but I am concerned that you may wake up feeling bad one of these days when you realize how often you confirm our view.

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

FSS correspondence with the aforementioned parties in its education, evidence gathering and reporting phases makes their investigation no less independent than reviewing internal PSU e-mail documents or interviewing PSU personnel unencumbered by the SITF or the BoTs. Independence clearly refers to being unencumbered by the SITF and the Board and FSS clearly wasn't. If you think otherwise then present the evidence. Further, there is nothing in the NCAA e-mails or depositions that suggest there was a lack of independence by FSS in educating themselves, gathering information, and authoring their report.

Just so you know, IMO, you are not fit to hold a seat on the Board because you harbor preconceived unsubstantiated notions that affects clear thinking and objectivity. Further, the tenor of most of your posts suggests you are a vindictive and dangerous person who will twist and contort what others say to further your own agenda. I'm not alone in that view either.

 

[lionlurker]

Dem, you are a dangerous person! And how dare you have preconceived notions about how awful the BOT power brokers are. I'm sure none of the handpicked stooges have any preconceived notions whatsoever of what they are expected to do.

Unfortunately for CR, who is "not alone in that view", he and his buddies don't get more than one vote each. Viva la Dem!

 

[Cruising Route 66]

CR66, just another Penn Live fool.

LOL! You couldn't be more wrong.

 

[delcoLion]

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

FSS correspondence with the aforementioned parties in its education, evidence gathering and reporting phases makes their investigation no less independent than reviewing internal PSU e-mail documents or interviewing PSU personnel unencumbered by the SITF or the BoTs. Independence clearly refers to being unencumbered by the SITF and the Board and FSS clearly wasn't. If you think otherwise then present the evidence. Further, there is nothing in the NCAA e-mails or depositions that suggest there was a lack of independence by FSS in educating themselves, gathering information, and authoring their report.

Just so you know, IMO, you are not fit to hold a seat on the Board because you harbor preconceived unsubstantiated notions that affects clear thinking and objectivity. Further, the tenor of most of your posts suggests you are a vindictive and dangerous person who will twist and contort what others say to further your own agenda. I'm not alone in that view either.

Demlion gets my vote.

 

[demlion]

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

FSS correspondence with the aforementioned parties in its education, evidence gathering and reporting phases makes their investigation no less independent than reviewing internal PSU e-mail documents or interviewing PSU personnel unencumbered by the SITF or the BoTs. Independence clearly refers to being unencumbered by the SITF and the Board and FSS clearly wasn't. If you think otherwise then present the evidence. Further, there is nothing in the NCAA e-mails or depositions that suggest there was a lack of independence by FSS in educating themselves, gathering information, and authoring their report.

Just so you know, IMO, you are not fit to hold a seat on the Board because you harbor preconceived unsubstantiated notions that affects clear thinking and objectivity. Further, the tenor of most of your posts suggests you are a vindictive and dangerous person who will twist and contort what others say to further your own agenda. I'm not alone in that view either.

So I won't be getting the CR-66 endorsement. Ok...I think I can overcome it.

 

[91Joe95]

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

FSS correspondence with the aforementioned parties in its education, evidence gathering and reporting phases makes their investigation no less independent than reviewing internal PSU e-mail documents or interviewing PSU personnel unencumbered by the SITF or the BoTs. Independence clearly refers to being unencumbered by the SITF and the Board and FSS clearly wasn't. If you think otherwise then present the evidence. Further, there is nothing in the NCAA e-mails or depositions that suggest there was a lack of independence by FSS in educating themselves, gathering information, and authoring their report.

Just so you know, IMO, you are not fit to hold a seat on the Board because you harbor preconceived unsubstantiated notions that affects clear thinking and objectivity. Further, the tenor of most of your posts suggests you are a vindictive and dangerous person who will twist and contort what others say to further your own agenda. I'm not alone in that view either.

Hey dem, you just got your most important endorsement!

 

[91Joe95]

So I won't be getting the CR-66 endorsement. Ok...I think I can overcome it.

Maybe you should just put him down as a "maybe."

 

[nits74]

So I won't be getting the CR-66 endorsement. Ok...I think I can overcome it.

That would be akin to Trump getting Sarah Palin's endorsement.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

FSS correspondence with the aforementioned parties in its education, evidence gathering and reporting phases makes their investigation no less independent than reviewing internal PSU e-mail documents or interviewing PSU personnel unencumbered by the SITF or the BoTs. Independence clearly refers to being unencumbered by the SITF and the Board and FSS clearly wasn't. If you think otherwise then present the evidence. Further, there is nothing in the NCAA e-mails or depositions that suggest there was a lack of independence by FSS in educating themselves, gathering information, and authoring their report.

Just so you know, IMO, you are not fit to hold a seat on the Board because you harbor preconceived unsubstantiated notions that affects clear thinking and objectivity. Further, the tenor of most of your posts suggests you are a vindictive and dangerous person who will twist and contort what others say to further your own agenda. I'm not alone in that view either.

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

There's a good reason why the NCAA/OG BOT settled with Corman when they did in January. There were 400+ emails that were about to be released a few weeks later in Febuary. It's not a huge leap to suggest those emails were quite incriminating.

Corman, the sleeze bag that he is, of course accepted the settlement to help out his OGBOT buddies (who were most likely his political benefactors) and kept those emails in the dark away from the public's eyes. Any decent person looking out for PSU would have told the NCAA to take their settlement offer and shove it up their ass. Covey was all over the NCAA as well and Corman gave them a life line with that settlement and the timing of it. At the very least, why not wait until the 400+ emails are released to the public thus making the NCAA's negotiating postion that much weaker before agreeing to a settlement?? Never made any sense to me.

I'll never forget seeing how the OGBOT scoundrels reacted during the BOT meeting when the settlement was announced..they were SOOO happy and glad handing each other....I remember thinking..hmm..that's odd...PSU was a CO-DEFENDANT with the NCAA and they just supposedly "lost" to Corman....not really....they were happy b/c their malfeasance/collusion with the NCAA remained hidden b/c the 400+ emails will never get released.

Hopefully the Paterno and other lawsuits will get those emails out in the open once they go to trial.

It is kind of amusing how many people forget that before Corman there was....Corman. It has been all in the family for decades. The family connections to PSU and BOT members is decades old.

There was never any chance that Corman was really on "our" side. None.

 

[Zenophile]

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

FSS correspondence with the aforementioned parties in its education, evidence gathering and reporting phases makes their investigation no less independent than reviewing internal PSU e-mail documents or interviewing PSU personnel unencumbered by the SITF or the BoTs. Independence clearly refers to being unencumbered by the SITF and the Board and FSS clearly wasn't. If you think otherwise then present the evidence. Further, there is nothing in the NCAA e-mails or depositions that suggest there was a lack of independence by FSS in educating themselves, gathering information, and authoring their report.

Just so you know, IMO, you are not fit to hold a seat on the Board because you harbor preconceived unsubstantiated notions that affects clear thinking and objectivity. Further, the tenor of most of your posts suggests you are a vindictive and dangerous person who will twist and contort what others say to further your own agenda. I'm not alone in that view either.

 

[Zenophile]

Maybe you should just put him down as a "maybe."

 

[91Joe95]

LOL! You couldn't be more wrong.

Hey, did you hear the news today?

 

[Zenophile]

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

FSS correspondence with the aforementioned parties in its education, evidence gathering and reporting phases makes their investigation no less independent than reviewing internal PSU e-mail documents or interviewing PSU personnel unencumbered by the SITF or the BoTs. Independence clearly refers to being unencumbered by the SITF and the Board and FSS clearly wasn't. If you think otherwise then present the evidence. Further, there is nothing in the NCAA e-mails or depositions that suggest there was a lack of independence by FSS in educating themselves, gathering information, and authoring their report.

Just so you know, IMO, you are not fit to hold a seat on the Board because you harbor preconceived unsubstantiated notions that affects clear thinking and objectivity. Further, the tenor of most of your posts suggests you are a vindictive and dangerous person who will twist and contort what others say to further your own agenda. I'm not alone in that view either.

Unfortunately I think you're on to something here. At least according to the article at this link.

 

[Aoshiro]

The engagement letter specifically states that "FSS's investigation will be completed in parallel to but independent of any other investigation that is conducted by any policy agencies, governmental authorities or agencies, or any other organizations within or outside PSU and will not interfere with any such other investigations. FSS will also communicate regarding its independent investigation performed hereunder with media, police agencies, govermental authorities and other parties as directed by the Special Investigative Task Force".

An "investigation" that requires the "investigator" to provide any incriminating evidence that it finds to the prosecution but does not require the "investigator" to provide any exculpatory evidence found to the defense is NOT INDEPENDENT.
That "investigation" is by definition biased towards the prosecution. And that is exactly what Ken Frazier & Ron Tomalis intended.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

So I won't be getting the CR-66 endorsement. Ok...I think I can overcome it.

Well to be honest that in itself is a tremendous endorsement.

 

[demlion]

Well to be honest that in itself is a tremendous endorsement.

Yeah I was just wondering what would I do if that guy thought I WOULD be a good Trustee? After all we know his standards in this regard.