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Peacock - I’m not watching this stupid game

Here’s another absolutely stupid thing about Peacock. Rankings are extremely important for the playoffs and almost NO ONE saw our game yesterday. There’s no national articles about it, I haven’t seen highlights anywhere, ESPN has absolutely nothing about the white out, they didn’t even show our score on their feature scoreboard during the game!

It’s like we had a bye week and now the prognosticators who are doing their speculative rankings are pushing teams ahead of us who played similar or worse competition.

Peacock is absolutely BS and we should never play on that platform ever again.
But don’t worry, some on here assure us that the committee watches every game from every team in the country and they don’t pay attention to scores or rankings, so we should be fine.
 
I don’t have to prove a point to anyone. I listened to the radio broadcast and that was fine. But as we’re trying to jockey for a playoff spot and home/away scenarios, the ranking matter and Peacock caused PSU to be invisible yesterday.
Not invisible at all...nor was anyone focused on us playing at the same time as Bama/LSU
Penn State did this to themselves by demanding a non-Noon start otherwise we'd have been on FOX.
 
I followed the game on cbs game tracker. It was like reading a book instead of watching the movie. Surprisingly entertaining in a different way
Found a local bar with the game. Watched over hot wings and a couple three beers. Without a doubt Allar’s best game yet. Looked really sharp.

Announcers said that Franklin had told them they were going to really work hard to get the wide receivers more involved. And it worked.

He was throwing before they broke and hitting them in stride, often through tight windows.

Makes me think that after losing last week and not even scoring a touchdown Franklin decided to quit playing not to lose…..avoiding interceptions…..and playing to win by being aggressive.
 
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I don’t have to prove a point to anyone. I listened to the radio broadcast and that was fine. But as we’re trying to jockey for a playoff spot and home/away scenarios, the ranking matter and Peacock caused PSU to be invisible yesterday.

Yeah, except plenty of people watched the game, and plenty more see the lopsided score and know we dominated ... and we'll benefit in the rankings as a result.

But, other than that, your whinefest was spot on.
 
Announcers said that Franklin had told them they were going to really work hard to get the wide receivers more involved. And it worked. He was throwing before they broke and hitting them in stride, often through tight windows.

Makes me think that after losing last week and not even scoring a touchdown Franklin decided to quit playing not to lose…..avoiding interceptions…..and playing to win by being aggressive.

I will have to watch the BTN 60-minute replay of this game tomorrow -- were patterns different to get our receivers off the line of scrimmage, or was Washington's man coverage simply not as good as OSU's man coverage? Did they even play a press coverage?

So the perception is that Franklin decided to quit playing not to lose. Great. Tell me that is going to carry over into the playoffs against the likes of OSU, Georgia, or Alabama when we need to hold a lead in the 4th quarter. I will believe it when I see it.

Either way, I think the most important things are about discipline and preparation. From the Game Thread it seemed we still jump on the count instead of the ball/snap, and we still do stupid stuff on third and long. And we are probably still beating our chests after making a routine play.

Those are mental things that speak to preparation. So is having a plan to get a score inside the 5-yard line when you are getting whipped on the LOS. The T-formation with QB under center was the one thing from last year's offense that I would have kept, especially now with Warren in that backfield. (2RBs and a TE).
 
I will have to watch the BTN 60-minute replay of this game tomorrow -- were patterns different to get our receivers off the line of scrimmage, or was Washington's man coverage simply not as good as OSU's man coverage? Did they even play a press coverage?

So the perception is that Franklin decided to quit playing not to lose. Great. Tell me that is going to carry over into the playoffs against the likes of OSU, Georgia, or Alabama when we need to hold a lead in the 4th quarter. I will believe it when I see it.

Either way, I think the most important things are about discipline and preparation. From the Game Thread it seemed we still jump on the count instead of the ball/snap, and we still do stupid stuff on third and long. And we are probably still beating our chests after making a routine play.

Those are mental things that speak to preparation. So is having a plan to get a score inside the 5-yard line when you are getting whipped on the LOS. The T-formation with QB under center was the one thing from last year's offense that I would have kept, especially now with Warren in that backfield. (2RBs and a TE).
Scheduled for 11:00 AM tomorrow (Monday).

Looking forward to your unbiased, knowledgeable dissection.
 
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Scheduled for 11:00 AM tomorrow (Monday).

One of the problems with the condensed program is the lack of replays with alternate cameras and wide angle shots that show the defensive coverage.

Looking forward to your unbiased, knowledgeable dissection.

Assume you are being facetious.

I am actually a golfer, for over half a century -- a complex game that I could teach. When I watch football, also a complex game, I now tend to look at all of the pieces and factors that produce the results. It's just how I have been trained to think. I can't be just a fan that hopes to win.

PSU Football became a part of my roots because I went to the games and had some exposure to players as a student. Those years produced some of the best and worst experiences of my life. To this day I replay things and wish that I had run a different play. To this day I wish that I had better coaching, better preparation, better discipline, etc. for the game of life.
 
First, they put PSU/OSU at noon and now we have to subscribe to an unpopular streaming service for the white out? I’m not doing that…not giving them the satisfaction of making me pay more for a game that could easily be on cable.

This is not even to mention that James Franklin’s squads typically follow up a loss with another loss.
Oh look, another hater eating Crow, once again. Do you ever get tired of saying the same stupid sh&t?
 
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Josh Pate hammers the networks. He said that they don’t know college football and can’t make good decisions on what games should be highlighted beyond the two teams rankings. That is why the white out got relegated to a streaming service

 
There’s a lot more stuff on Peacock than just this game.
Yeah, they also get all the Yellowstone series as well. Hmmmm. $8/month for a game vs $10-$15/bad movie ticket. I have Peacock, but I pay for the B1G+ for wrestling season. Like someone said, I have a job. 20 years ago we didn't have the option of seeing all things PSU.

Bitch all ya want, using it as another lame a$$ excuse to take yet another cheap shot at Franklin is bush league.
 
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Josh Pate hammers the networks. He said that they don’t know college football and can’t make good decisions on what games should be highlighted beyond the two teams rankings. That is why the white out got relegated to a streaming service

Won't argue this, but they paid for this marvelous contract everyone in the B1G is enjoying.
 
Utah is playing at Colorado at Noon to be on FOX
I wonder if they're complaining about an early start?
We dictated the start of this game--of course we weren't a priority--we pissed people off
 
I will have to watch the BTN 60-minute replay of this game tomorrow -- were patterns different to get our receivers off the line of scrimmage, or was Washington's man coverage simply not as good as OSU's man coverage? Did they even play a press coverage?

So the perception is that Franklin decided to quit playing not to lose. Great. Tell me that is going to carry over into the playoffs against the likes of OSU, Georgia, or Alabama when we need to hold a lead in the 4th quarter. I will believe it when I see it.

Either way, I think the most important things are about discipline and preparation. From the Game Thread it seemed we still jump on the count instead of the ball/snap, and we still do stupid stuff on third and long. And we are probably still beating our chests after making a routine play.

Those are mental things that speak to preparation. So is having a plan to get a score inside the 5-yard line when you are getting whipped on the LOS. The T-formation with QB under center was the one thing from last year's offense that I would have kept, especially now with Warren in that backfield. (2RBs and a TE).
Washington largely played zone and we picked them apart. Warren got lost multiple times. On one instance when we hit Warren on a crossing route, my friend and I commented that he got more separation on that one play than he got in the entire game versus OSU.
 
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Washington largely played zone and we picked them apart. Warren got lost multiple times. On one instance when we hit Warren on a crossing route, my friend and I commented that he got more separation on that one play than he got in the entire game versus OSU.
Oddly, Washington had the number one pass defense in the B1G. The stuffed USC and got their starter benched.
 
Oddly, Washington had the number one pass defense in the B1G. The stuffed USC and got their starter benched.
Moss was benched because Riley's trying to save his job but...
Allar's going to pick apart Zones defense--the only chance teams have against Penn State is to play man and lock down the receivers to disguise coverage enough that he's doesn't understand it pre-snap. Very few teams can do that--Ohio State is one of them. Washington--defiitely isn't.
 
Josh Pate hammers the networks. He said that they don’t know college football and can’t make good decisions on what games should be highlighted beyond the two teams rankings. That is why the white out got relegated to a streaming service

This guy nailed it. I went to a local bar and asked if they were going show the game. Turned out the woman running the bar has Peacock so she used her password to put it on.

But it was a blank screen with the words ‘Program to start shortly’ right up to 8:00. No pregame, no history, no hype of the White Out. No band. Nothing.

Incredible stupidity.

They had sound off with CC activated. Announcers seemed appreciative. But terrible coverage.
 
Oddly, Washington had the number one pass defense in the B1G. The stuffed USC and got their starter benched.

Yeah amazing how PSU's passing game works better when all eligible receivers aren't permitted to be illegally bronco-ridden directly off the LOS of scrimmage and throughout their patterns and then illegally tackled while the ball is in the air and before it has gotten to the receiver.
 
I will have to watch the BTN 60-minute replay of this game tomorrow -- were patterns different to get our receivers off the line of scrimmage, or was Washington's man coverage simply not as good as OSU's man coverage? Did they even play a press coverage?

So the perception is that Franklin decided to quit playing not to lose. Great. Tell me that is going to carry over into the playoffs against the likes of OSU, Georgia, or Alabama when we need to hold a lead in the 4th quarter. I will believe it when I see it.

Either way, I think the most important things are about discipline and preparation. From the Game Thread it seemed we still jump on the count instead of the ball/snap, and we still do stupid stuff on third and long. And we are probably still beating our chests after making a routine play.

Those are mental things that speak to preparation. So is having a plan to get a score inside the 5-yard line when you are getting whipped on the LOS. The T-formation with QB under center was the one thing from last year's offense that I would have kept, especially now with Warren in that backfield. (2RBs and a TE).
WRs were much more open Saturday and Allar looked very calm and composed. Even when the receivers were not wide open he was fitting the ball into tighter spaces confidently. Some of that was probably the lack of pressure early in the game but Washington did get pressure in the second half and I don't remember Drew throwing off his back foot except maybe once or twice when he was throwing it out of play. That was the best Drew has looked since the second half of USC. Hard to tell if the WRs were playing that much better but they were getting open and making some tough catches.

The first half of that game our entire offense and defense looked incredible other than maybe 1 or 2 bonehead defensive penalties. I thought Washington played pretty well the second half and we had a couple moments where we struggled but we seemed to adjust quickly and right the ship. Our defense played aggressive and confident. Abdul Carter was an absolute menace. This could just be me but one thing that seemed to me was that our players weren't dancing and strutting around by themselves as much after sacks and TFL. Seemed like they were celebrating more with each other and getting back and ready to play. I remember one play someone made a good tackle and started celebrating along the sidelines and a couple coaches started yelling and pointing for him to get back to his position. Up until Saturday it has seemed to me like there were a lot of individual players on defense instead of everyone playing together as a team.

I have no idea if Franklin made a conscious decision to stop playing not to lose, but it sure seemed like it. We were aggressive and confident on both sides of the ball and we looked much more in control. After several plays where we got first downs or big gains our offense would line up quickly and snap the ball with everyone set and lined up correctly. Those follow-up plays were often pretty successful. That tells me that they were much better prepared. Not sure how that happens in just a week but hopefully something finally clicked. There were also far fewer stupid pre-snap penalties.
 
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This guy nailed it. I went to a local bar and asked if they were going show the game. Turned out the woman running the bar has Peacock so she used her password to put it on.

But it was a blank screen with the words ‘Program to start shortly’ right up to 8:00. No pregame, no history, no hype of the White Out. No band. Nothing.

Incredible stupidity.

They had sound off with CC activated. Announcers seemed appreciative. But terrible coverage.
For the most part the Peacock coverage sucked. As you say, no pregame coverage at all. The coverage stated with the kickoff team running onto the field. The announcers were bush league. Sounded like high school announcers. The game action coverage wasn't that bad. Much like network TV. No post game coverage at all.
 
This guy nailed it. I went to a local bar and asked if they were going show the game. Turned out the woman running the bar has Peacock so she used her password to put it on.

But it was a blank screen with the words ‘Program to start shortly’ right up to 8:00. No pregame, no history, no hype of the White Out. No band. Nothing.

Incredible stupidity.

They had sound off with CC activated. Announcers seemed appreciative. But terrible coverage.
This like complaining FS1 or CBSSN or ESPNU doesn't do a pregame show--the pregame shows are on FOX, ESPN , NBC etc. And I'm not even sure NBC or CBS do a pregame show any more
 
From the posts above it seems the big difference on whether we move the ball is the type of defensive coverage, and that very likely is driven by whether the secondary matches up well enough to play man to man press coverage. That is what OSU and Michigan have tended to do against PSU, which then enables them to stop the run. Of critical importance, beyond the quality of athlete, is whether the officials are going to let the muggings to occur. To my eye if you are one of the B1G's protected teams then they will let the secondary's "play." I think it's corruption. This should not differ from game to game, but clearly it does.

The statistic that suggests Washington was the best pass defense can often be skewed by the opponent's desire to run instead of pass. Is that ranking based on pass defense yards per game or pass defense yards per attempt? Probably the former.
 
From the posts above it seems the big difference on whether we move the ball is the type of defensive coverage, and that very likely is driven by whether the secondary matches up well enough to play man to man press coverage. That is what OSU and Michigan have tended to do against PSU, which then enables them to stop the run. Of critical importance, beyond the quality of athlete, is whether the officials are going to let the muggings to occur. To my eye if you are one of the B1G's protected teams then they will let the secondary's "play." I think it's corruption. This should not differ from game to game, but clearly it does.

The statistic that suggests Washington was the best pass defense can often be skewed by the opponent's desire to run instead of pass. Is that ranking based on pass defense yards per game or pass defense yards per attempt? Probably the former.

In regards to your last paragraph USC had the top passing offense in the B1G going into Washington game (they are still #2 in B1G, #13 in the Country averaging 291 ypg) and Washington completely shut them down holding them to 30 completions on 50 attempts and Intercepted 3... USC only averaged 9 yards per completion (6 yards per pass).
 
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On Peacock subject what was just as bad was ND played a 1-9 FSU team on NBC beating them 52-3. I don't know if ND can ever be relegated to Peacock with their NBC contract, probably not so that is what you get.

I listened to the game off the GoPSU Sports site and it was fine. I had not heard Jones and Ham for a long time. Ham was saying Carter was held almost every play. This made an impression on me because he is not some uninformed fan, he is an NFL Hall of Famer who knows football. Sure he is also a Penn State homer but the point is still valid.

The other cool thing from the radio broadcast is they will tell you what players are in, for example who is in on the defensive line or who are WRs are. That is stuff you never get from a network broadcast.
 
From the posts above it seems the big difference on whether we move the ball is the type of defensive coverage, and that very likely is driven by whether the secondary matches up well enough to play man to man press coverage. That is what OSU and Michigan have tended to do against PSU, which then enables them to stop the run. Of critical importance, beyond the quality of athlete, is whether the officials are going to let the muggings to occur. To my eye if you are one of the B1G's protected teams then they will let the secondary's "play." I think it's corruption. This should not differ from game to game, but clearly it does.

The statistic that suggests Washington was the best pass defense can often be skewed by the opponent's desire to run instead of pass. Is that ranking based on pass defense yards per game or pass defense yards per attempt? Probably the former.
I think it's passing yards per game. Drew only threw for 220 so their pass defense wouldn't look terrible just looking at that alone but offensively we completely dominated them overall. If we were behind by 3 scores and needed to throw we could have. Being able to run for 266 means we don't have to throw and their pass defense doesn't get exposed. AK mixed it up nicely early in the game and when we got up big we ran the ball more because we could.
 
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From the posts above it seems the big difference on whether we move the ball is the type of defensive coverage, and that very likely is driven by whether the secondary matches up well enough to play man to man press coverage. That is what OSU and Michigan have tended to do against PSU, which then enables them to stop the run. Of critical importance, beyond the quality of athlete, is whether the officials are going to let the muggings to occur. To my eye if you are one of the B1G's protected teams then they will let the secondary's "play." I think it's corruption. This should not differ from game to game, but clearly it does.

The statistic that suggests Washington was the best pass defense can often be skewed by the opponent's desire to run instead of pass. Is that ranking based on pass defense yards per game or pass defense yards per attempt? Probably the former.
It all boils down to talent level. People were worried Warren would be shut down because Ohio State did it. Ohio State does it because they have an NFL first rounder hawking him in Downs. Warren is an NFL caliber TE. Washington has no one like Downs.

Ohio State will shut down Indiana. Michigan completely shut down Indiana in the 2nd half and OSU will learn from that. OSU talent on the D Line matches Michigan's so they can do the same thing.
 
From the posts above it seems the big difference on whether we move the ball is the type of defensive coverage, and that very likely is driven by whether the secondary matches up well enough to play man to man press coverage. That is what OSU and Michigan have tended to do against PSU, which then enables them to stop the run. Of critical importance, beyond the quality of athlete, is whether the officials are going to let the muggings to occur. To my eye if you are one of the B1G's protected teams then they will let the secondary's "play." I think it's corruption. This should not differ from game to game, but clearly it does.

The statistic that suggests Washington was the best pass defense can often be skewed by the opponent's desire to run instead of pass. Is that ranking based on pass defense yards per game or pass defense yards per attempt? Probably the former.
Your first paragraph is spot on.
 
It all boils down to talent level.

Plus officiating.

We had a far better QB than OSU. With no one to throw to in effect the officiating shut him down. Our receivers were never going to get open. The negative impact of that officiating decision therefore hurt PSU more than it hurt OSU even if our secondary decided to play the same way. With OSU's talent in the secondary this made it very easy for them to stuff the line of scrimmage. It took away PSU's primary advantage in personnel -- QB, RB, and TE.
 
Plus officiating.

We had a far better QB than OSU. With no one to throw to in effect the officiating shut him down. Our receivers were never going to get open. The negative impact of that officiating decision therefore hurt PSU more than it hurt OSU even if our secondary decided to play the same way. With OSU's talent in the secondary this made it very easy for them to stuff the line of scrimmage. It took away PSU's primary advantage in personnel -- QB, RB, and TE.
We have a Bingo!
 
Yeah, they also get all the Yellowstone series as well. Hmmmm. $8/month for a game vs $10-$15/bad movie ticket. I have Peacock, but I pay for the B1G+ for wrestling season. Like someone said, I have a job. 20 years ago we didn't have the option of seeing all things PSU.

Bitch all ya want, using it as another lame a$$ excuse to take yet another cheap shot at Franklin is bush league.
Also PSU basketball, other college basketball games. NFL games, Caitlin Clark games…plenty to see for $8.
 
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