Qb’s don’t enter the portal to be back ups. Hopefully Pribula does not leave, and we have a kid coming in as a true freshman.
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For starters, you bench the guy who cannot focus the first half and give a lead large enough to get your back ups meaning second half game reps. Allar looks to be gifted... but really... how many meaningful game reps did he get...
or any other qb in the room ... for forever?
its the new normal. I read something like 60% of starting QB's came to the team via the transfer portal. I can think of five very good ones off the top of my head
- Will Levis from PSU to Kentucky
- Bo Nix from Auburn to Oregon
- Michael Penix from Indiana to Washington
- Caleb Williams from Oklahoma to USC (and probable Heisman winner)
- Spencer Rattler from Oklahoma to South Carolina
A QB pipeline from State College to Kentucky......if other schools could and develop them, why not. I really liked following Levis.
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Or another reason…we wouldn’t know because we’re not involved in the team.
Which coaches are getting valuable time for multiple QB’s because I haven’t seen any. In all the games I’ve watched it’s always the QB1 playing.
Agreed. Allar looked good when he played. Really, all you can do is trust in the staff. They see the kids in practice and in film study, etc. We don't. There are a lot of intangibles in terms of leadership, level headedness, ability to get more out of those around him. As you say, there is no substitute for game experience but there really aren't a lot of options to get it.
Michigan's #2 had 25 passing attempts for 180 yards.
tOSU's second teamer passed 20 times for 190 yards.
Allar had 59 for 344 yards
Have a feeling he’s going to be a very good D1 QB.
Both of our brethren had more blowouts than we did as well. They chose to pad stats.
We got Allar reps, but we didn't have him slinging it like we wanted 21 more points.
Agreed. I was trying to give the situation context. How many reps are good? I feel like NW was an opportunity but the weather was so bad and our RBs kept fumbling. In many games, we didn't really hit the gas until the third quarter.
Well, my point was no one, including coaches, really know how a kid will preform in a real game …..until he is in a real game. V played quite well one game….better than Clifford did later on after he was re-injured against Illinois.
Head coaches have become very gunshy about playing backup QBs. Including pros. Seems like no matter the score backups don’t get in until the final three minutes when all they do is hand off or take a knee.
Coaches hate QB controversies and do anything to avoid them. They hate having fans and media and chat room experts second guessing them. It’s not they care about fans or media but they see how it divides teams and causes problems with players, especially the QBs.
Clifford was injured against Illinois and could barely play. One reason reason we lost it.
I was supporting your point 100%. Good reps? Very tough, very good question.
Purdue was great reps. 2 first downs in a competitive game, Warren dropped the beauty, Allar failed to run for a 3rd FD.
Michigan was good reps. Didn't produce anything, but he had another great read that was dropped (Wheel to Singleton), and some live action vs a defense with its ears pinned. Fast pace, toughest pass rush. Irreplaceable game speed moments.
Ohio and Indiana were good reps. Effective 2 TD performances. Playbook was open. Got to sling it. Evaluation reps against outmatched opponents.
The rest? Average. Limited playbook. Wasn't quite kneel downs, but the offense wasn't actively trying to score.
For sure...lots of teams could want at least an upgrade in their QB battle. If Iowa doesn't get McNamara I'd expect them to chase CV or someone similar.
The first of many. College football is a business now, not just a sport.
Penn State QB Christian Veilleux enters transfer portal
Penn State’s Christian Veilleux will enter the transfer portal.pennstate.rivals.com
Only issue is that Harbaugh APPEARS to have played McNamara, giving him the hope of being the starter while really intending to sit him as soon as McNamara couldn't transfer.
Maybe not, but looked that way.
Are you sure you're not a transistor?
You seem to have only two states - one and zero.
It is CLEARLY more of a business today with even less loyalty than it was in 1990.
Was it less of a business when agents were buying Curtis Enis suits in the 90's or it was it just not put on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, a podcast, A radio show or whatever content based business that sucks up your attention and proliferates small things into big things with a simple push notification to your hand held God?
Clearly today, we wouldn't even blink at someone buying a suit. Enis got suspended.
Really, your example makes my point, no?
I don't think so, its just the optics of it. From a monetary standpoint most of the same things were happening all along. The single biggest event to change college football and usher it into the ritz, glitz and glamour of it all, was January 2, 1987. But nothing has really changed except how we viewed it and how it was marketed. The perks came in different form for Jack Ham as they do for Abdul Carter, but make no mistake Jack Ham had the greatest perks available to an athlete at the time.
Bell Telephone was one of the top blue chip stocks in 1980, Verizon Wireless was a blue chip in 2020. Aside from one no longer being in business there isn't much difference in the companies except the delivery method of their service.
Again it's been.a business for years. Loyalty was forced by rules restricting kids from leaving. It was loyalty at all when you think about it.
Hope he goes to VT personally. They could use a good QB that can manage the game, read a defense and make the right throws. Plus, our old PSU coaches could really use the help.
So, 100% a business and zero loyalty?
When did the switch get thrown?
Was it ever 100% loyalty and zero business?
On on hand I respect Franklin for not running up the score by having Allar hand the ball off, on the other, I would like to have seen him pass the ball a lot more. One thing I did notice is it appeared they were calling passing plays when Allar was playing. Allar was calling out adjustments for blocking and WR routes. They then would audible out and run the ball. So concept wise it left like he was getting a feel for running the offense.
Yeah, Allar should be ready to go by Game 1 in 2023:
- Two off-season practice and conditioning years
- Decent amount of action in 2022
- O-Line looking good
- Running back situation looking very good
- Receivers? -- a bit of a question mark, but Allar has the time to click with those on the roster and there could be a portal addition that would help
2023 PENN STATE FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Sept. 2 West Virginia
Sept. 9 Delaware
Sept. 16 at Illinois
Sept. 23 Iowa
Sept. 30 at Northwestern
Oct. 14 UMass
Oct. 21 at Ohio State
Oct. 28 Indiana
Nov. 4 at Maryland
Nov. 11 Michigan
Nov. 18 Rutgers
Nov. 25 at Michigan State
What are the chances of going to Columbus undefeated?
Pretty good, I'd say.
Two challenging games there: WVU will be a grudge match against a decent opponent in Allar's first start. WVU is Pitt lite.
The @Illinois game will be our first B1G game (surprise, it's an away game!) and our first road game. Illinois is improving and outcoached us last year for a transformational win. Again, a first for Allar in that it will be his first start in an away game.
BTW, Former Michigan QB Cade McNamara transferred to Iowa so that could be a tough game as well.
QB Cade McNamara transferring to Iowa
Former Michigan starter considered front-runner for Iowa job
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Any player that transfers within a conference should sit out one year.BTW, Former Michigan QB Cade McNamara transferred to Iowa so that could be a tough game as well.
QB Cade McNamara transferring to Iowa
Former Michigan starter considered front-runner for Iowa job
