Not completely IMO. ESPN is a national network so it's good marketing for PSU to take those interviews. Notice our guys seem to make it a point to repeat our slogan "Have Fun" always in those interviews. Seems like a game borderline.
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I DO like that Flo worked in the 'Do you have a plan?' clip into this documentary. Made me laugh and appreciate that at least Flo has a sense of humor.
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How many flo interviews has Cael done since then?
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How many flo interviews has Cael done since then?
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The funny part of the "Do you have a plan?" is the fact Pyles was just terrified by sarcasm.
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No, not the kid. If the kid is 10 or 12 and made the comment, the kid is simply parroting his daddy. Any complaints, and it isn't a complaint more like a simple observation. The kid has an asshole for a father.
Did Mason graduate? For someone who comes across as freaking stupid as he does at times, it is hard to believe he actually earned a Lehigh degree.
do we know that? kid is plenty old enough to discover HR.
where does this idea that pyles is unfair to psu come from. yes, he is unlikeable, but every time the topic comes up, he says a variation of "if you want to win an ncaa title, you should go to psu." how much stronger of an endorsement do you need?
the persecution complex on here is hilarious.
A 10 or 12 year old can form his own thoughts, but the maturity of complex neuro networks to help with complex thought, reasoning and logic application is a bit underwhelming at 10 or 12. That, plus the kid is hanging with his dad while doing the show so I am assuming they spend more than casual time together. Typically the biggest influence on most 10 or 12 year-olds' world view is shaped by their parents/home. I am assuming with the information available that this kid is a typical 10 or 12 year-old.
What I generally find hilarious is your ridiculous attempt(s) at undercutting others' fairly educated opinions with nonsense.
However, I have forgotten that you almost always know better.
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I know I'm going to get some flak on this... I understand Js's point. Pyles is a well known db. We should leave it at that. Let's not drag the kid into this. It could be his mom's fault.
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Since day one, I've maintained the reason I ever even visited HR was to set the record straight when they constantly accuse PSU of cheating, parents taking payoffs and PSU wrestlers cheating. El Jefe can attest to that because he used to get on me about caring what they do over there. He was probably right. And yes, fans go there and read...even kids. I was always the pushback to all the accusations there and most of you hated it...So when I did try to talk wrestling, it could never work because in your minds I was just the troll. I was there only there to start trouble when in fact i was there to set the record straight on all the bs being spread to disparage the PSU program.
Ya know JS, you always say I like to brag about being a troll there. I never bragged but I never hid from the reason why I visited that site. Also, not sure you're old enough to remember but I took a beating from PSU fans on HR and also highly respected people here for posting over there. I was ok with it and never wavered because someone needed to be over there to defend the PSU program and not let all the accusations go unchecked. I did it mostly because people start believing that junk...especially the kids.
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Lmao. Come on people. This deserves a ton of likes. Lol
My son’s mother and I were divorced, for some reason that did help his financial aid. He went five years , owed 45 k in loans, and got his MS in engineering from Lehigh. I gave home around 10k a year as did his mom. His aid package covered the rest.
I generally agree with this sentiment. But when you choose to have your kid on a national podcast, and the kid makes inflammatory statements, I don’t think discussing the source of those statements is unreasonable. Most feel he is parroting what he hears at home and are not attacking the kid.
I was a bit surprised Christian didn't say something about that.
The kid is an Iowa homer, and that's cool. They wrestled with him and treated him like royalty so why wouldn't he be.
And why is this worth more than a few sentences other than for a joke.
I'm not sure if any of you noticed but it's big ten week...
The kid is an Iowa homer, and that's cool. They wrestled with him and treated him like royalty so why wouldn't he be.
And why is this worth more than a few sentences other than for a joke.
I'm not sure if any of you noticed but it's big ten week...
Christian should have known better. Putting your son on there is almost inviting others to comment on him and draw opinions... especially if your kid is going to insinuate that other people's kids (PSU wrestlers) are juicing. Hopefully he learned something here.
Let's all just agree that the root of the problem here is HR and move on.
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Props to the fan in ep. 2 that told Brands at the team hotel in that, "It's over! For next ten years, it's over for you!" Nostradamus lmao
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A (concerningly) large portion of every fan base thinks every media entity or organization is biased against them.
HR posters think Iowa is the “most hated” team, when in reality it’s just that people recognize that HR has way too many village idiots.
I watched/listened to all 3 parts. I liked it. Definitely no recent content or interviews bc Cael and company cutoff FLO for trying to reveal the plan and the inner secrets of the PSU room and NLWC. I think FLO knows they lost a ton of respect, money, and contracts due to their big mouths.
I get why Cael didn't like it but I also can't get mad at Flo for doing some of the only real journalism they've ever done. The financial situation at NLWC is a huge part of the success at PSU. You can't build a full stable fo world medalists if you can't pay them. It's a totally legitimate line of inquiry.
I absolutely agree with the premise here as well. It was standard journalism; however, I think trying to then cast negative aspersions on the program with that information rather than digging more to better understand the nature of the funding and the way it is utilized was a classic Flo blunder.
Would be nice to see an examination of the nature of Slumlord Millionaire’s generous gift
But I digress
then there is the $$ play for event viewership... not sure if that was an issue when Flo was locking up meets, etc. - then along came Rokfin with a better (from a schools point of view) financial plan
Tax Forms Reveal Stunning Finances At Nittany Lion Wrestling Club - FloWrestling
FloWrestling has been able to obtain tax information for a number of wrestling clubs and organizations. The most fascinating find is the incredible financial situation of the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club.
Just looked it up and the answer is no. Not even the slightest innuendo. And this financial info was part of a broader investigation into the state of RTC's. They list the financials for 20 different clubs. NLWC got the headline for the obvious reason that its numbers are stunning.
And the advantage is framed specifically in terms of being able to fill the club with high level senior level athletes, including international wrestlers. If you seriously have a problem with this journalism, you're a baby. It's great work.
And the conversation around the effect on recruiting was always more nuanced than represented here. Of course it has an effect! The best recruits don't just want ncaa titles. They want olympic and world titles. Part of reaching that is having a great place to train after graduation, not just in terms of wrestling, but standard of living. Cael doesn't have to explicitly promise "we'll pay off your loans." He can point to the senior level goal and say "hey great news, once you graduate, we already have the best set up for your senior level career." This is obvious. It's one of the main reasons Eierman transferred to Iowa and he was open about it. The HWC is way better set up to support his senior level career.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say it was "great work". They pulled some tax forms and wrote a summary of them. Anyone can do it. Here's the link. I'd say it was the beginning of what could have been a good piece. Because there are some interesting nuggets to be found in those forms.Tax Forms Reveal Stunning Finances At Nittany Lion Wrestling Club - FloWrestling
FloWrestling has been able to obtain tax information for a number of wrestling clubs and organizations. The most fascinating find is the incredible financial situation of the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club.www.flowrestling.org
Just looked it up and the answer is no. Not even the slightest innuendo. And this financial info was part of a broader investigation into the state of RTC's. They list the financials for 20 different clubs. NLWC got the headline for the obvious reason that its numbers are stunning.
And the advantage is framed specifically in terms of being able to fill the club with high level senior level athletes, including international wrestlers. If you seriously have a problem with this journalism, you're a baby. It's great work.
And the conversation around the effect on recruiting was always more nuanced than represented here. Of course it has an effect! The best recruits don't just want ncaa titles. They want olympic and world titles. Part of reaching that is having a great place to train after graduation, not just in terms of wrestling, but standard of living. Cael doesn't have to explicitly promise "we'll pay off your loans." He can point to the senior level goal and say "hey great news, once you graduate, we already have the best set up for your senior level career." This is obvious. It's one of the main reasons Eierman transferred to Iowa and he was open about it. The HWC is way better set up to support his senior level career.
And while I wouldn't put this specifically on FLO, let's be honest, those forms (by way of that piece) are the basis for a lot of accusations against PSU. Accusations that are the product of looking at a few specific numbers without any context or additional information.
But maybe this is unfair of me...was there further reporting on this?
Is this actually true though?
This is the nature of the internet. It is near universal. The reason we don't see it as much here, is you guys are on top. But there was some of that junk on here the two years you weren't.
For example, Iowa landed Lee by getting Larry a high level exec job at Coe College. Nevermind that that job was at another institution and basically a demotion, but clearly that's the only reason Spencer would go there. That line was all over the place over here. And guess who partook...
"Some "enterprising" school in Iowa should hire Bill and entice the entire McCort crew to come out that way. They never seem to have hs recruiting issues out that way. Or do they? Hell, theres also a young guns there . I’m sure Tom would let them workout with the HWC as well. Bill could even open up his compound if he wanted. It will almost be like they never even left Pennsylvania. Well… except the kids will be allowed to wrestle and there will be corn everywhere. Whoever fixed Larry Lee up with a job should look into this."
-you, 11/5/2021
I say this because I do actually like you. You're tilting at windmills my friend. None of what you do on HR matters or has any effect and it seems to genuinely upset you. Stop going over there and focus on enjoying your wonderful team and talking actual wrestling here.
Stieber is the only one I can think of. Tervel retired the year before. Tomasello and Snyder were still in college so they don't count towards it even though they were having senior level success. Dijulius wrestled some after college, but not sure it was for ohio state.
Can anybody else think of someone I'm forgetting?
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