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Pitt series on hold until 3030

We will agree to disagree. Money and recruiting is not noise. Neither is Pitt's desire to play PSU. Remotely relative is not being Bama. Those eastern teams were never NC relative except Pitt for a short time. Remotely relative is being ranked in top 20 on a regular basis. PSU stopped playing Pitt in 92. Up until that point, Pitt was ranked either preseason or during the season in all but two seasons from 1973 to 1991. It took 12 years for Pitt to be ranked again at any time during the season. PSU and Pitt started up again in 1997 for 4 straight years. Shortly thereafter Pitt was ranked again. The only anomaly was 2008 and 2009 when Pitt had a 9 and 10 win season. History disagrees with you.

Correction: Pitt stopped playing PSU in 92.

PSU made fair offers to continue the series, pitt always declined.
 
The Lair people always respond that it was OUR choice to play all of the games at Pitt Stadium. That seems absurd, but Pitt Stadium was always pretty big, probably bigger than Beaver back in the WWII era. Maybe every other year they split the money up differently?

Just playing devil's advocate here.
 
The Lair people always respond that it was OUR choice to play all of the games at Pitt Stadium. That seems absurd, but Pitt Stadium was always pretty big, probably bigger than Beaver back in the WWII era. Maybe every other year they split the money up differently?

Just playing devil's advocate here.
OK, and now it should be Pitt's choice to play in the Beave. What's their point?
 
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The Lair people always respond that it was OUR choice to play all of the games at Pitt Stadium. That seems absurd, but Pitt Stadium was always pretty big, probably bigger than Beaver back in the WWII era. Maybe every other year they split the money up differently?

Just playing devil's advocate here.
Yes, Pitt Stadium was the larger stadium for many years. Since Beaver Stadium seats approximately 40,000 more than Heinz, let's now play all the games at The Beav.
 
You missed the point and connecting the dots in 1992 to fit your narrative is obviously a stretch. What we agree on is Pitt will not be competing on the same field as Penn State. What we don’t agree on is why. Good day sir.

You didn't make a point. You only said that Pitt needing PSU for recruiting and money is comical. Good day as well.
Correction: Pitt stopped playing PSU in 92.

PSU made fair offers to continue the series, pitt always declined.
Thanks, all I meant was they no longer played not who actually stopped the series.
 
Pitt does need PSU for recruiting and for money. That is the unassailable truth.

That is, in order for Pitt to recruit at all, they not only have to play PSU, they have to beat PSU. And we all know that is not happening this year or next year.

The good news for Pitt is that within the state, the players that we once were both recruiting should be more wide open for competition moving forward, since we are expanding our footprint and going after higher ranked kids. There should therefore be some good players left over for Pitt. Problem is, Narduzzi can't recruit against anybody, it would appear, let alone JF. We are now not even offering some kids that won't even consider OV's to Pitt. Remember Narduzzi's JR. Day back in the winter? Not a single kid of import showed up. Not one.

As you say, good day.
 
You didn't make a point. You only said that Pitt needing PSU for recruiting and money is comical. Good day as well.

Thanks, all I meant was they no longer played not who actually stopped the series.


Thanks but I’m suppose to golf today and it’s raining. No worries and respect your view. Just see it it a little different. My point basically was Pitt never has been a Blue Blood football factory type. Only modest success in short pockets of time. As money and revenue increased Pitt couldn’t keep up with the Penn State and OSUs of the world. I mean they were in the Big East haha while Penn State was Big Ten. Pitt has generally been a moderately successful program over the last 50 years. I mean how many top 10 finishes in last 50 years? Top 25? Get the point YYZ86? Having Penn St on schedule didn’t make Pitt good. And, not having Penn St on schedule didn’t set the program back. Pitts idiocy seems to be their problem. While we were in a fight for our program’s existence Pitt fired and hired like 6-8 LOL. Pitt has done a good job bringing their academics up but they haven’t figured out how to run an athletic department.
 
Pitt does need PSU for recruiting and for money. That is the unassailable truth.

That is, in order for Pitt to recruit at all, they not only have to play PSU, they have to beat PSU. And we all know that is not happening this year or next year.

The good news for Pitt is that within the state, the players that we once were both recruiting should be more wide open for competition moving forward, since we are expanding our footprint and going after higher ranked kids. There should therefore be some good players left over for Pitt. Problem is, Narduzzi can't recruit against anybody, it would appear, let alone JF. We are now not even offering some kids that won't even consider OV's to Pitt. Remember Narduzzi's JR. Day back in the winter? Not a single kid of import showed up. Not one.

As you say, good day.


Seriously do we even recruit against Pitt anymore. They recruit a full level below us so your point is off IMO. You contradicted your point throughout your post. Pitt played Penn St and beat Penn St and what did that do for their recruiting. They finish like 30-50 most years. The point that is legit is if Pitt/Coach can even recruit.
 
Pitt does need PSU for recruiting and for money. That is the unassailable truth.

That is, in order for Pitt to recruit at all, they not only have to play PSU, they have to beat PSU. And we all know that is not happening this year or next year.

The good news for Pitt is that within the state, the players that we once were both recruiting should be more wide open for competition moving forward, since we are expanding our footprint and going after higher ranked kids. There should therefore be some good players left over for Pitt. Problem is, Narduzzi can't recruit against anybody, it would appear, let alone JF. We are now not even offering some kids that won't even consider OV's to Pitt. Remember Narduzzi's JR. Day back in the winter? Not a single kid of import showed up. Not one.

As you say, good day.
Money yes, recruiting no. Even when we were in the depth of our sanctions nothing helped Pitt recruit. All the negative recruiting Narduzzi did against us did not help with any blue chipper. They all left the state for OSU, Michigan and ND. And the dynamic of no blue chipper wanting to go to Pitt, except got one WPIAL kid every few years, hasn't changed. They just continue to recruit MAC level talent and talk about coaching them up and winning the Coastal.
 
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