I don't think they were monsters, just stupid. And it doesn't need to be a "violent sexual assault" to be a crime. That is why he was convicted of an indecent assault.
Actually while you shut down one guy you helped publicized it beyond some small blog. Now there are about a dozen different version of the same t shirt being sold through several outlets. There will probably be a few thousands more Joe Knew shirts sold now. Job well done.Actually there was a very large Oskee-wow-wow effort that accomplished this shutdown, with a 48-hour head start ( via anonymous tip) contacting the T-shirt company and more.If there's one thing I won't tolerate from any fan base, it 's something like this that keeps at-risk kids in harm's way with bogus information. Not to mention attempting to profit at the expense of the most vulnerable.
Don't hold your breath. Just because some person in India working chat said it going to be removed doesn't mean it will be. It doesn't matter because they will just open another store on Amazon.
Wrong. Those who purchased these particular ones are now trying to unload them via other outlets. There were other versions already extant on which complaints were also lodged. If you don't really have any facts on which to base your opinion, please refrain from making things up.
What? "McQueary said in 2011/2012 that he witnessed a violent sexual assault of a child, unless you'd choose to describe the anal rape of a young boy a different way." <--- I'm hoping you realize he certainly did not and lodged a complaint to the OAG about the Big Lie in that Presentment.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Only point that I would add is that you could in fact get 7 monsters together in one place at one time IF they were also involved in the types f activities Sandusky was involved in. Not one of these guys has been implicated in such a way. What would they have covered this up for if they were not involved? Football? Makes absolutely no sense.
He obviously did NOT imply it or all 8: MMQ, JMQ, Dr. D, JVP, TC, GS, GS, and WC would have taken different actions.
My point is that what he described to his dad, the Dr and Paterno fit into *at minimum* an indecent assault charge. My personal opinion is that the monsters (or at least, the most questionable characters in this case) are most likely Curley and Schultz. Those were the men who heard the allegations directly from MM and were responsible within PSU to take action. Spanier was getting his information from them, not Mike, so I could see how they could have bastardized that information into "horseplay". They also were the ones who had knowledge of the 1998 case. Of course, proving that they did something nefarious more than a decade after the fact is incredibly difficult, so I don't see them (or Spanier) being convicted of anything.
He conveyed "sexual sounds" to the Dr and his dad and something of "a sexual nature" to Paterno. Which in both cases would be enough to have the police look into whether an assault took place. However, he never told either of them specifically that he witnessed rape.
Your point has been proven wrong by both fact and logic ad nauseam. A report of Jerry showering with a kid is eew and needs to be handled in a certain way, which it was. There was no report of an assault. HOWEVER, to trained pros like Raykovitz it should have been not only a red flag, but at minimum noted and dealt with as a violation of a children's charity's best practices, and started a rethink about the federal reccos for not having programs allowing 1-1 adult-child ratio such as "Friend Fitness". Instead, they passed it on and Arrow FOOLISHLY continued the same program. Instead, Raykovitz laughed it off when Curley reported it. What Child Psychologist running a charity does that?
Just checking because I was pretty sure you have treated the analysis logically and factually all this time. OTOH, GMJ does not appear to be able to do so and keeps getting lost in hindsight bias.
Who cares? Getting all lathered up and posting on their site does nothing and the haters will hate, face it. It is something that as Penn State fans we will hear or see this for years to come. Does that make it acceptable, of course not. However, we have no control over what other people say or do. Just consider the sources: Pitt and Rutgers. Enough said.
My point has not been "proven" wrong, you just merely dismiss it. MM didn't report that all he witnessed was a man and a boy showering, he indicated that there were sexual sounds (at minimum). That is enough information for a formal investigation.
He told MM to report the incident to his superior, so no, I don't think he was a monster, just an idiot. Going by what the Dr. testified, he absolutely should have told MM to go to police instead of Paterno.
That's spin, but coming up with rationalization after rationalization that make Paterno's own words "a sexual nature" meaningless isn't?That's nothing but spin. Nice PL try. Dumbest spin ever.
What??? I think that McQueary is a massive coward. I have already said that Dranov, and Papa Mac should have instructed MM to go to police. I called them idiots. I'm not calling them monsters (or Paterno) because they did report it in some fashion and that reporting *should* have resulted in the authorities being contacted.
According to MM it was rhythmic slapping. It's like you haven't followed this case at all...
