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Playoff question for the board

So you have four conference winners then throw in a couple additional spots for worthy candidates. Then we have 12 teams, but what about the additional spots for worthy candidates after 12? Maybe we go 16…then what about the worthy candidates at 17 or 18….so then we go 24….hey, can’t forget the worthy candidates at 25 or 26….and so on and so on. The only worthy candidates are the ones who win their way in on the field.

Yes, three losses should eliminate a team. With no strict criteria for a team to get in the playoffs, there needs to be some kind of rules. If you allow three loss teams, all you’re doing is allowing as many SEC teams in as you possibly can. What about four loss teams? Are they okay? And if not, why not? How about five loss teams? Hey, if they have a tougher schedule, why shouldn’t they get in? Bottom line there needs to be some kind of base criteria to get in.


Conference winners can have three losses. Your rule goes out the window unless you want to eliminate conference winners too.
 
The conference winners and conference division winners should advance to the playoff. No ccg. Make conferences with 14 or more teams split into divisions. That gives you 15 conference/division winners. 16 when the pac reconstituted itself. That would be a real playoff. A championship should be based on the full body of work which should include winning something. Putting a 3rd or 4th place team in reduces the playoff to a nice entertaining invitational tournament. That's especially true when there are no rules to advance. Just a bunch of men making selections.

I've seen it argued that a OSU or PSU would move to a "lower" conference because that makes it easier to get to the playoff. That's just plain silly. There is no way they would give up Big 18 money to do that so it's a specious argument.

Now I agree the invitational will generate more interest. Keep more fan bases thinking there's a chance. Keep more internet boards arguing. Keep more eyes on TVs and probably generate more money which is what it's all about anyway.

All sports have gone to allowing lucky losers into there "playoff" because of what I just listed. Money. However, at least those sports have predefined rules for advancing. They don't get to the end of the season and vote.
Cool fantasy that's not realistic
 
Only way to fix this is make a mega group of with 48 or 64 teams. Have 8 divisions of 6 or 8. Play all your division teams plus cross over. 6 team divisions work better as you can play 11 games that way then add one game against lower level teams that aren’t in this but need the cash of those games. Each division winner gets into 8 team playoff. No rankings will be needed.
Most likely possible answer is the Big Ten and SEC go to 24 and split into 4 divisions. Top 3 or 4 in each division make the playoff. 12 or 16 teams
But if other conferences are included we'll never get something like this
 
Because of money. Wildcards are required to keep fan bases thinking, so you're saying there's a chance.
No...because in college football the majority of the top teams are in 2 conferences so you rewarding teams for not playing anything. It has nothing to do with "so you have a chance"
Accept reality. For the love of...
 
No...because in college football the majority of the top teams are in 2 conferences so you rewarding teams for not playing anything. It has nothing to do with "so you have a chance"
Accept reality. For the love of...
Reality Is that a 3rd or 4th place team has not earned the right to play for a national championship. Your reality is just wanting what you perceive to be entertaining games. You're the one that won't accept the reality that this tournament is not for a national championship. It's an entertainment designed to make the most possible MONEY.
 
Reality Is that a 3rd or 4th place team has not earned the right to play for a national championship. Your reality is just wanting what you perceive to be entertaining games. You're the one that won't accept the reality that this tournament is not for a national championship. It's an entertainment designed to make the most possible MONEY.
Says who? Why is that not earning it? Because you said so?
My reality is what is actually happening not something I'd create in EA Sports
It's designed to make money and to include the beat teams. No one ever said deserving.
 
Says who? Why is that not earning it? Because you said so?
My reality is what is actually happening not something I'd create in EA Sports
It's designed to make money and to include the beat teams. No one ever said deserving.
How can you say anyone deserves to be in. There are no rules. It's a joke.
 
I'm not. That's the point. The job is the best not deserving
It's NOT the best. There are no rules so it's the best in the OPINION if a bunch of people behind closed doors. There opinion is no better than anybody else's.

You seem to love this system and think your opinion is better than anybody else's. How about you explain it to me what the criteria is for determining the "best"? Where are those criteria written down? What is the deterministic algorithm.?
 
Hey Lando. Still waiting. You have an answer for everything

"How about you explain it to me what the criteria is for determining the "best"? Where are those criteria written down? What is the deterministic algorithm.?"

No answer?? How come??
 
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It's NOT the best. There are no rules so it's the best in the OPINION if a bunch of people behind closed doors. There opinion is no better than anybody else's.

You seem to love this system and think your opinion is better than anybody else's. How about you explain it to me what the criteria is for determining the "best"? Where are those criteria written down? What is the deterministic algorithm.?
It is the "best". That's the stated objective.
I understand the system and why what you want doesn't work. There's two conference that consist of 80% of the best programs.
The best is based on SOR SOS margin of victory quality wins and quality of their losses. We don't need an algorithm. It should be basic. Are the rankings somehow confusing to you?
 
Hey Lando. Still waiting. You have an answer for everything

"How about you explain it to me what the criteria is for determining the "best"? Where are those criteria written down? What is the deterministic algorithm.?"

No answer?? How come??
Lol I can't respond until I see something.
 
It is the "best". That's the stated objective.
I understand the system and why what you want doesn't work. There's two conference that consist of 80% of the best programs.
The best is based on SOR SOS margin of victory quality wins and quality of their losses. We don't need an algorithm. It should be basic. Are the rankings somehow confusing to you?
No. They are opinions. Any claim that they aren't is laughable.

So you agree there is no fixed algorithm which excludes human bias. If ther was you would list it.
 
So how are you picking the at large teams? And if the garbage conferences get into the tournament, why don’t some of the P4 teams just join a garbage conference so they can pretty much have an auto bid in every year?
Why would a P4 team leave a conference that prints money to go to a G5 conference? The money they'd get from making the playoff wouldn't offset the media deal money from being in a major conference.

At large berths would required some subjectivity, but in my imaginary world there would be scheduling rules that makes comparing teams between conferences a little bit easier. And if you have a field of 16 and only 5 spots are subjective I can live with it. Other sports have figured this stuff out and that's how they do things... lots of automatic berth spots. I don't know why CFB is so opposed to it but now they have given the Big 10 and SEC so much power and influence it will NEVER happen, because those 2 conference will view automatic berths for G5 conferences as taking a spot from one of their teams, and they will exert their influence to make sure it never happens.
 
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